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Originally Posted by MrfingerIII View Post

I don't understand why all of you are hell bent on thinking i set my fans wrong

In my location my weather is much hotter and forgive me if i am wrong when i put my Rig together it was they way i wanted it not how you all say it should be

If you can't say anything nice instead of criticizing my fan set up then i don't know why i am even on this forum

Just because you all agree on what your set up should be would probably pull no better results then my current set up i been building for over 20 years don't fool yourselves

Fans mounted in different directions actually circulate more air and i am also using Corsair SP fans so my Airflow is really good and when you have a your ssd mounted on the other side of the case in a corner with little no airflow of course it will be higher in heat my old setup it was 22c

If you have the case you know the SSD on the other side you know that will naturally turn ambient temps higher than normal anyway cheers guys

It wasn't meant as criticism. It was an attempt to help you with some fundamental issues issues that are keeping your build from getting its best performance and lowest noise by people who have used the case extensively.
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I understand your trying to help but i do have the best Airflow possible and the noise is not a issue i'm using Corsair AF and SP fans on the Rad the loudest noise in my Rig is the GPU because i cranked the fan up to run test

I could see this being a problem if i had my exhaust running backwards but my set up renders very good results you can only get better in ALASKA

i am in Southern California where the heat has been from 70-100 Degrees and with temps like mine in weather like that is really good results


This is how my fan direction is to clear this up once and for all Rad fans UP UP DOWN front of case INTAKE BOTTOM FAN UP REAR EXHAUST

You see how my circulation works

No matter how you guys see it the front intake will push to the back while the rear exhaust sucks it back and the others push it up it pretty much pushing maximum air flow my temps shown this already

they would be much worse otherwise
post #11653 of 19221
I have a question.

How is neutral air flow good for your PC?
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I have a question.

How is neutral air flow good for your PC?
The whole positive, negative, neutral is stupid. Airlfow is airflow. The only pressure involved is used to move the air. Higher pressure move to equalize itself into lower pressure.

In case airflow, if case has all filtered intakes we want the intake fans to have a slightly higher airflow potential than exhaust. I say potential because a case flows as much air out as it flows in. If it didn't one of two things would eventually happen; it would puff up like a balloon and go "BOOM!" or be sucked into a little ball. A case flows the lesser of the two potentials the lesser of intake or exhaust dictates the flow rate.

That smoke video is so bass ackwards it's not even funny. They change fans and airflow positions to change the intake and exhaustpotential ratios and say the airflow pattern is the result of pressure. doh.gif What the idiots who made that video are completely ignoring it that airflow doesn't care what the pressure inside of case is compared to room. The airflow's path through the case is j ust that, it's path through the case.

Sorry I can't make it eaier to understand. "Ways to Better Cooling" link in my sig might give you more insight about how case airflow works. 1st post is index, click on topics of interest to see them.
post #11655 of 19221
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

The whole positive, negative, neutral is stupid. Airlfow is airflow. The only pressure involved is used to move the air. Higher pressure move to equalize itself into lower pressure.

In case airflow, if case has all filtered intakes we want the intake fans to have a slightly higher airflow potential than exhaust. I say potential because a case flows as much air out as it flows in. If it didn't one of two things would eventually happen; it would puff up like a balloon and go "BOOM!" or be sucked into a little ball. A case flows the lesser of the two potentials the lesser of intake or exhaust dictates the flow rate.

That smoke video is so bass ackwards it's not even funny. They change fans and airflow positions to change the intake and exhaustpotential ratios and say the airflow pattern is the result of pressure. doh.gif What the idiots who made that video are completely ignoring it that airflow doesn't care what the pressure inside of case is compared to room. The airflow's path through the case is j ust that, it's path through the case.

Sorry I can't make it eaier to understand. "Ways to Better Cooling" link in my sig might give you more insight about how case airflow works. 1st post is index, click on topics of interest to see them.

what do you expect from those guys?
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what do you expect from those guys?
I keep hoping Darwins evolution theory will come true. tongue.gif
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Originally Posted by MrfingerIII View Post

I understand your trying to help but i do have the best Airflow possible and the noise is not a issue i'm using Corsair AF and SP fans on the Rad the loudest noise in my Rig is the GPU because i cranked the fan up to run test

I could see this being a problem if i had my exhaust running backwards but my set up renders very good results you can only get better in ALASKA

i am in Southern California where the heat has been from 70-100 Degrees and with temps like mine in weather like that is really good results


This is how my fan direction is to clear this up once and for all Rad fans UP UP DOWN front of case INTAKE BOTTOM FAN UP REAR EXHAUST

You see how my circulation works

No matter how you guys see it the front intake will push to the back while the rear exhaust sucks it back and the others push it up it pretty much pushing maximum air flow my temps shown this already

they would be much worse otherwise
Often calculations do not work. What we have suggested is how it really works. Important thing is you are happy with it, even if you don't like us. biggrin.gif
post #11658 of 19221
Does anyone use 2+ long graphic cards inside a Enthoo Primo here? I want that case but with msi gtx 970 sli (269mm) the lower card would hit the reservoir bracket. Can i mod it in any way or buy another with bigger "hole" for gpus?
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Does anyone use 2+ long graphic cards inside a Enthoo Primo here? I want that case but with msi gtx 970 sli (269mm) the lower card would hit the reservoir bracket. Can i mod it in any way or buy another with bigger "hole" for gpus?

Assuming you want to use the reservoir bracket, and you want to use the '3rd slot' for a GPU; you have to modify the reservoir bracket. You have to cut (tin snips work) the bracket so the GPU fits. I also cut the 'cover' to match the bracket. It's not a big deal. Also, the reservoir should not be larger than 60mm if you have long GPUs. I have two EVGA 980 TI Hydro Coppers for reference. FYI, the holes in the bracket are designed for the Bitspower reservoir.
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Originally Posted by Sillence View Post

Does anyone use 2+ long graphic cards inside a Enthoo Primo here? I want that case but with msi gtx 970 sli (269mm) the lower card would hit the reservoir bracket. Can i mod it in any way or buy another with bigger "hole" for gpus?

If you don't want to do any cutting you should be able to buy the new revision: http://www.overclock.net/t/1418637/official-case-phanteks-case-club-for-lovers-owners/11600_20#post_24562174 That's how I got a 2nd HDD panel (with the Phanteks badge on it) for my Primo. Just email support@phanteksusa.com and ask if you could purchase that piece for your chassis and specify if you have another color chassis (mine was red/black). They'll ask for your shipping address and send an invoice through shopify. Once you pay it they will send it your way.


Invoice #D21 from Phanteks

September 18, 2015

To purchase your order, follow this secure payment link: https://checkout.shopify.com/*******/invoices/***********************************

Invoice summary

1 x Primo HDD panel (Red) - Custom for $19.99 USD each

Subtotal: $19.99 USD
Shipping: $15.95 USD
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