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I'm currently hard pressed between the Evolv and the Luxe. I can't decide which case to go with. Does anyone know how well the default fan set up is on the Evlov compared to the default fan set up on the Luxe? How much worse would the air flow be on the Evolv since it seems more boxed. Basically, how does both case compare in airflow with the default fan set up?
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Originally Posted by Jasonm99 View Post

I'm currently hard pressed between the Evolv and the Luxe. I can't decide which case to go with. Does anyone know how well the default fan set up is on the Evlov compared to the default fan set up on the Luxe? How much worse would the air flow be on the Evolv since it seems more boxed. Basically, how does both case compare in airflow with the default fan set up?

Its kind of a give and take. The Luxe is capable of better flow, but is hindered by the less than stellar 200mm intake. The EVOLV ATX has better intake fans, but more restriction and less exhaust. Throw a couple of good 140mm in the front of the Luxe and you have the best of everything.

I have both of these cases and am right now trying to decide which to keep. My dilemma is based around liquid components rather than airflow. If I was air cooling and basing the decision on performance, I would keep the Luxe without question.
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While I don't have a Evolv I do have a Luxe. I'm all air cooling anyway .. until my fairy god-mother gives me something like the Swiftech H320 X2 Prestige. biggrin.gif I've looked at the Evolv and wondered if there is a way to space the front plate forward 10-15mm .. maybe space the clip-in mounting brackets off of cover could be done without too much trouble??. That would greatly improve airflow.
Edited by doyll - 1/27/16 at 10:33am
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Its kind of a give and take. The Luxe is capable of better flow, but is hindered by the less than stellar 200mm intake. The EVOLV ATX has better intake fans, but more restriction and less exhaust. Throw a couple of good 140mm in the front of the Luxe and you have the best of everything.

I have both of these cases and am right now trying to decide which to keep. My dilemma is based around liquid components rather than airflow. If I was air cooling and basing the decision on performance, I would keep the Luxe without question.

If I were to not change the 200mm intake on the Luxe, would you say the airflow is still better over the Evolv and by how much? If both have ups and downs with their default fans and default fan set up, then straight out of the box airflow on both cases would be about the same?
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While I don't have a Evolv I do have a Luxe. I'm all air cooling anyway .. until my fairy god-mother gives me something like the Swiftech H320 X2 Prestige. biggrin.gif I've looked at the Evolv and wondered if there is a way to space the front plate forward 10-15mm. That would greatly improve airflow.

I have an Evolv, I do this alot...


The side door swings open, so if i know it'll be working very hard for a long time, i sometimes pop the side door open. I've thought about brining the front panel to a cnc machine to add some venting. I think it could look pretty nice.

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If I were to not change the 200mm intake on the Luxe, would you say the airflow is still better over the Evolv and by how much? If both have ups and downs with their default fans and default fan set up, then straight out of the box airflow on both cases would be about the same?

Straight out of the box the Luxe is a little better.
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The front 200mm fan is pretty much useless so if you are getting a Luxe you should get rid of the 200mm fan.
Dual 120 or 140mm fans with good static pressure is so much better.
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The front 200mm fan is pretty much useless so if you are getting a Luxe you should get rid of the 200mm fan.
Dual 120 or 140mm fans with good static pressure is so much better.

Could you explain why the 200mm fan in front as intake on the Luxe is useless? I thought that a larger fan will still move more air than two 140mm?
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Could you explain why the 200mm fan in front as intake on the Luxe is useless? I thought that a larger fan will still move more air than two 140mm?
The bigger a fan is the lower the static pressure is which means it cant push the air it moves hard enough to get through the fiter HDD cages and everything else that is in the way.
The Phanteks 200mm fans has the same problem every other 200mm fan out there has the static pressure is too low which means most of the air flow is wasted and only a fraction of the air it moves actually get inside the case.

Dual 120mm or 140mm fans with higher static pressure moves way more air into the case as they can push it hard enough.
I saw my temps drop as much as 5c after i removed the useless 200mm fans and replaced it with 2x Noctua NF-A14 FLX fans.
Edited by shilka - 1/27/16 at 11:54am
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Could you explain why the 200mm fan in front as intake on the Luxe is useless? I thought that a larger fan will still move more air than two 140mm?

Because dual 140SP move 164 CFM with 1.33mm SP, while the 200SP is 110 cfm with only 1.04mm SP. The dual 140SP are quieter doing that, as well.

The "why it's useless" is simple - it doesn't move enough air. it doesn't have enough pressure and it is too loud. Many in this thread have complained about (and replaced) this fan. It was the first thing I did when I got the case.
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