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post #12141 of 18678
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What ciarlatano said thumb.gif

Designed properly a 200mm fan has the potential to be as good as 140mm or a 120mm.

The '140mm fans are not as good as 120mm fans' myth has been proven untrue. The '200mm fans are not any good' will be also be proven untrue in time.
post #12142 of 18678
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The bigger a fan is the lower the static pressure is which means it cant push the air it moves hard enough to get through the fiter HDD cages and everything else that is in the way.
The Phanteks 200mm fans has the same problem every other 200mm fan out there has the static pressure is too low which means most of the air flow is wasted and only a fraction of the air it moves actually get inside the case.

Dual 120mm or 140mm fans with higher static pressure moves way more air into the case as they can push it hard enough.
I saw my temps drop as much as 5c after i removed the useless 200mm fans and replaced it with 2x Noctua NF-A14 FLX fans.

Thanks for the information. What is the difference between the Noctua NF-A14 FLX and the Nactua NF-A14 PWM?
post #12143 of 18678
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Because dual 140SP move 164 CFM with 1.33mm SP, while the 200SP is 110 cfm with only 1.04mm SP. The dual 140SP are quieter doing that, as well.

The "why it's useless" is simple - it doesn't move enough air. it doesn't have enough pressure and it is too loud. Many in this thread have complained about (and replaced) this fan. It was the first thing I did when I got the case.

What are the fans used in the Luxe? Is it the PH-F140SP? What 140mm fans would you recommend me to swap the 200mm fan with?
post #12144 of 18678
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Thanks for the information. What is the difference between the Noctua NF-A14 FLX and the Nactua NF-A14 PWM?
The FLX uses a 3 pin connector and the PWM uses a 4 pin PWM connector and thats about it.
And please dont multi post you can edit your old post if you would like to add more or quote someone else.
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post #12145 of 18678
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The FLX uses a 3 pin connector and the PWM uses a 4 pin PWM connector and thats about it.
And please dont multi post you can edit your old post if you would like to add more or quote someone else.

Sorry for the double post, wish I can delete the 2nd post. confusedsmiley.png

Will I be able to use the 4 pin connector on the Luxe?
post #12146 of 18678
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Originally Posted by Jasonm99 View Post

Sorry for the double post, wish I can delete the 2nd post. confusedsmiley.png

Will I be able to use the 4 pin connector on the Luxe?
The Luxe has a 4 pin PWM fan hub behind the motherboard tray so you can plug up to 6 fans into that.
The hub then has a single PWM cable you can plug into the motherboard so you dont use all your fan headers.

Looks like this and all you need to power it is a SATA power cable


Edit: 3 pin fans will also work with the hub as you can plug a 3 pin into a 4 pin but not vice versa.
Edited by shilka - 1/27/16 at 1:55pm
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I was trying to decide between the Luxe & Evolv ATX, for me it came down to more case space. I'm not the best builder, was worried about space and fittings things into it. Alot of the new CLC's work really well, and are totally plug and play. I also have an MSI Sea Hawk, to go along with whatever I stick on the CPU. My last case was a Haf 932, so much nicer. I'm over cases that look like toys.
post #12148 of 18678
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I was trying to decide between the Luxe & Evolv ATX, for me it came down to more case space. I'm not the best builder, was worried about space and fittings things into it. Alot of the new CLC's work really well, and are totally plug and play. I also have an MSI Sea Hawk, to go along with whatever I stick on the CPU. My last case was a Haf 932, so much nicer. I'm over cases that look like toys.
CLC coolers are overrated overhyped overpriced unreliable and loud.
You are almost alwasy better off with a good air cooler instead its better cheaper more reliable and more quiet.

A good CLC cooler does not exist so if you want an AIO you should look at the open ones from EK and Swiftech.
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post #12149 of 18678
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CLC coolers are overrated overhyped overpriced unreliable and loud.
You are almost alwasy better off with a good air cooler instead its better cheaper more reliable and more quiet.

A good CLC cooler does not exist so if you want an AIO you should look at the open ones from EK and Swiftech.

The ones Ive looked at the most are the Swiftech ones, I guess I meant I probably wont end upgrading it much at all.
post #12150 of 18678
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The ones Ive looked at the most are the Swiftech ones, I guess I meant I probably wont end upgrading it much at all.
CLC means closed liquid loop and the Swiftech ones are not closed if you where not already aware.
AIO means all in one so i assume you meant AIO and not CLC?
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