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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The Luxe has a 4 pin PWM fan hub behind the motherboard tray so you can plug up to 6 fans into that.
The hub then has a single PWM cable you can plug into the motherboard so you dont use all your fan headers.

Looks like this and all you need to power it is a SATA power cable


Edit: 3 pin fans will also work with the hub as you can plug a 3 pin into a 4 pin but not vice versa.

Alright thanks, good to know I can use 4 pin connectors on the Luxe as the store I want to purchase from only has the NF-A14 PWM in-stock (they don't sell the NF-A14 FLX). It's the only Noctua and Phanteks case fan they sell.

That being said, what is the best fan set up I should go with? So two 140mm in the front, keep the 140mm at the rear, now should I move the 200mm to the top back (and moving the top back 140mm to the front)? Or buy another 140mm and just ditch 200mm?
post #12152 of 18657
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The Luxe has a 4 pin PWM fan hub behind the motherboard tray so you can plug up to 6 fans into that.
The hub then has a single PWM cable you can plug into the motherboard so you dont use all your fan headers.

Looks like this and all you need to power it is a SATA power cable


Edit: 3 pin fans will also work with the hub as you can plug a 3 pin into a 4 pin but not vice versa.

This is from the manual of the Enthoo Luxe about the PWM splitter:

"The PWM hub functions optimally when modulated by a PWM signal from the motherboard, which will allow the greatest control range. However, not all 4-pin motherboard connectors implement the PWM signal modulation. Connecting the 4-pin to CPU_FAN For full PWM functionality, Phanteks’ PWM hub requires users to connect the 4-pin connector to the “CPU_Fan” connector of the motherboard, because all motherboard manufacturers implements a PWM signal modulation on this connector. Connect the SATA 12V power to power the PWM hub. Not all motherboards have their CPU_Fan connector set on PWM signal modulation by default. Please consult your motherboard documentation for this matter. Connecting the 4-pin to other 4-pin header (besides the CPU_Fan).

Other 4-pin connectors can be found on modern motherboards besides the “CPU_Fan” connector (e.g. “CPU_Fan2”, “CHA_Fan”, “OPT_Fan”), however not all motherboard manufacturers implement a true PWMsignal modulation onto these connectors. These type of 4-pin connectors modulate the RPM by voltage, which has a smaller control range compared to modulation by true PWM signal. The 12V SATA power cable can not be used to power the PWM hub if connecting to these types of 4-pin connectors, due to the interference with the RPM regulation by voltage (resulting in the fans running on full RPM). The PWM hub will draw its power from the 4-pin connector, which is limited to a total device consuming 30W in total.

Important Note: 1 motherboard connector can only read 1 RPM signal. Therefore, the motherboard will only read the RPM signal from 1 device connected to Fan 1. The RPM from all other devices will be regulated according to FAN 1. Y-splitter should not be connected to FAN 1."
post #12153 of 18657
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Originally Posted by Jasonm99 View Post

Alright thanks, good to know I can use 4 pin connectors on the Luxe as the store I want to purchase from only has the NF-A14 PWM in-stock (they don't sell the NF-A14 FLX). It's the only Noctua and Phanteks case fan they sell.

That being said, what is the best fan set up I should go with? So two 140mm in the front, keep the 140mm at the rear, now should I move the 200mm to the top back (and moving the top back 140mm to the front)? Or buy another 140mm and just ditch 200mm?
You cant use the 200mm fan anywhere else in the case as there are no mounts for it.
And you cant even reuse the fan ever again as you are pretty much going to have to cut its power cable ( i was forced to do this with my fan) otherwise you wont get the damm fan out.

Also note that my personal experience with the stock Phanteks fans is they make a ton of vibration noise when mounted in the top of the case.
Dont know if mine where somehow broken but they where so bad that the whole case would start shaking when the fans where cranked to max.

I replaced them so i have 5x of the same fans all NF-A14 FLX, 2x in the front and top and 1x in the back.
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post #12154 of 18657
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

You cant use the 200mm fan anywhere else in the case as there are no mounts for it.
And you cant even reuse the fan ever again as you are pretty much going to have to cut its power cable ( i was forced to do this with my fan) otherwise you wont get the damm fan out.

Also note that my personal experience with the stock Phanteks fans is they make a ton of vibration noise when mounted in the top of the case.
Dont know if mine where somehow broken but they where so bad that the whole case would start shaking when the fans where cranked to max.

I replaced them so i have 5x of the same fans all NF-A14 FLX, 2x in the front and top and 1x in the back.

So there is no way I can remove the front 200mm without cutting its power cable? Wouldn't that mean I will need to cut the power cable on the new 140mm to reattach the two cables together?

Just to confirm, I won't have to cut any of the 140mm stocks fans if I want to move them right? Had no idea had to cut the cable for the 200mm
post #12155 of 18657
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So there is no way I can remove the front 200mm without cutting its power cable? Wouldn't that mean I will need to cut the power cable on the new 140mm to reattach the two cables together?

Just to confirm, I won't have to cut any of the 140mm stocks fans if I want to move them right? Had no idea had to cut the cable for the 200mm
The cable on the 200mm fan goes through a tiny hole in the front of the case and that hole is too small for the 3 pin connector to go through.
I did not bother to try and get the the connector through that tiny hole so i just cut the wire, that being said you might be able to get it through if you have enough time on your hand.

And no you you dont need to cut any wire for the new fans as the connector cant even get through.
There are much bigger holes the cables will go through with no problems so i dont see the point of the 200mm fan being that way.
Edited by shilka - 1/27/16 at 3:11pm
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post #12156 of 18657
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

The Luxe has a 4 pin PWM fan hub behind the motherboard tray so you can plug up to 6 fans into that.
The hub then has a single PWM cable you can plug into the motherboard so you dont use all your fan headers.

Looks like this and all you need to power it is a SATA power cable


Edit: 3 pin fans will also work with the hub as you can plug a 3 pin into a 4 pin but not vice versa.
I hate to say it, but the PWM fan hub is not for PWM fans.
Why Phanteks named it "PWM fan hub" is a mystery to everyone. It is a PWM controlled fan hub for 3-pin fans.
Any use of PWM fans on the PWM fan hub means the PWM fans are functioning as variable voltage fans.
post #12157 of 18657
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The cable on the 200mm fan goes through a tiny hole in the front of the case and that hole is too small for the 3 pin connector to go through.
I did not bother to try and get the the connector through that tiny hole so i just cut the wire, that being said you might be able to get it through if you have enough time on your hand.

And no you you dont need to cut any wire for the new fans as the connector cant even get through.
There are much bigger holes the cables will go through with no problems so i dont see the point of the 200mm fan being that way.
I removed the 200mm fan, cable and all from my Luxe with no problems .. and I have old arthritic hands. tongue.gif
post #12158 of 18657
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I removed the 200mm fan, cable and all from my Luxe with no problems .. and I have old arthritic hands. tongue.gif
My Luxe has a number of strange things going on with it so that might be yet another flaw it has.
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post #12159 of 18657
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Originally Posted by Jasonm99 View Post

Alright thanks, good to know I can use 4 pin connectors on the Luxe as the store I want to purchase from only has the NF-A14 PWM in-stock (they don't sell the NF-A14 FLX). It's the only Noctua and Phanteks case fan they sell.

That being said, what is the best fan set up I should go with? So two 140mm in the front, keep the 140mm at the rear, now should I move the 200mm to the top back (and moving the top back 140mm to the front)? Or buy another 140mm and just ditch 200mm?
I know of no Phanteks case with PWM connections. All are 3-pin variable voltage. The Phanteks PWM controlled fan hub controls 3-pin variable voltage fans.
Edited by doyll - 1/27/16 at 4:17pm
post #12160 of 18657
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Hi!!!

I have a doubt about free space above rail for rad to top case on Evolv ATX. Could you help me?

I attach a image with dimension to know.



Thanks anticipated!!!

Sorry, some with EVOLV ATX can you help me and say me this distance? Please headscratch.gif

Kind regards!!!!
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