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post #12211 of 18696
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I didn't run it long enough to see how VRM temps are affected. VRM temps take a while to creep up. They top out at ~60 when air is flowing, they'll creep higher with the panel fully on. But I popped the panel before it had reached cruising speed.

It does help even more to fully remove the front panel.

With the panel left in place, the GPU will either get hotter or its fans will spin harder to maintain similar temps.

I'm using the PH-F140SPs, with a full load like this, the case fans run at 100%, about 1250 RPM.

I think a bottom intake fan would have been a nice addition to this case too.

The scenario that gives the case the most trouble is a graphically demanding game that is not cpu intensive.
- cpu is not working too hard and is cool
- gpu is going all out
I have the case fans regulated by cpu temps, so the case fans don't run up to much in that scenario. The hot exhaust from the gpu does not get pushed out of the case. With the fans spinning at their slowest speed, the low pressure is hardly enough to break thru the restrictiveness of the front panel. I have to get off my butt and do something with the arduino i have now to remedy that situation. http://www.overclock.net/t/1578212/fan-controller-that-responds-to-2-pwm-input-signals

All makes sense.

Just brainstorming here now. I would think having front intakes with GPU control would be a better choice. Radiator is self controlling. Remove real fan. Get an adapter splitter for GPU fan header (assuming it's PWM' and use the GPU PWM signal to control case front case fans. Worst thing I can see happening is CPU may run a little warmer under full load when GPU is not working hard. Then experiment with one case fan on each (only problem is PWM control and no PWM fan). Maybe your motherboard has a variable voltage heater that uses CPU temp or just use motherboard temp to control it.

I have most of my radiator fans controlled via GPU PWM source, and controlled with MSI Afterburner, it is really nice with the amount of control MSI AB gives you. Custom fan curve based on temp, automatically controlled. Now if you go and bench your CPU, you will have to manually set the fan speeds to compensate for the load there.
post #12212 of 18696
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I have most of my radiator fans controlled via GPU PWM source, and controlled with MSI Afterburner, it is really nice with the amount of control MSI AB gives you. Custom fan curve based on temp, automatically controlled. Now if you go and bench your CPU, you will have to manually set the fan speeds to compensate for the load there.

SpeedFan allows to control fan speed according to GPU AND CPU. Love it. Learning curve is a bit steep but thereafter the reward is awesonme especially with advanced fan control tab.
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post #12213 of 18696
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Probably one of the nicest cases I've worked on, even like it more then the pro. 😬
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post #12214 of 18696
Wish I could get a vented top for my Evolv ATX. Removing the top lowered my water temps by 6-7c and gpu temps equally on heaven benchmark.
post #12215 of 18696
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Wish I could get a vented top for my Evolv ATX. Removing the top lowered my water temps by 6-7c and gpu temps equally on heaven benchmark.

It's worse on the ITX, I'm seriously considering returning my new case or trying to mod in some top vents, the heat is extreme and the top of the case feels so hot to the touch that it's almost burning with my predator installed. Temps are only around 50ish on the gpu and cpu during heaven bench but still it's alarming that the only exhaust are these tiny vents :/
post #12216 of 18696
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Wish I could get a vented top for my Evolv ATX. Removing the top lowered my water temps by 6-7c and gpu temps equally on heaven benchmark.
Can the top be left setting on it's pop-in latches? Does this raise the top 6-10mm? If so does this lower temps? Trying to determine how much more airflow vent area is needed. wink.gif
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It's worse on the ITX, I'm seriously considering returning my new case or trying to mod in some top vents, the heat is extreme and the top of the case feels so hot to the touch that it's almost burning with my predator installed. Temps are only around 50ish on the gpu and cpu during heaven bench but still it's alarming that the only exhaust are these tiny vents :/
Same questions as above.

Assuming you havve EKWB Predator:
FYI, EKWB recalled all R1.0 Predators because of a leak risk issue. "All Revision 1.0 units produced from October 2015 until end of December 2015 are potentially affected .. "
https://www.ekwb.com/news/656/19/Important-notice-from-EKWB-EK-XLC-Predator-240-and-360-R1-0-Product-recall/
post #12217 of 18696
Hello

Before I go over to the dual-pump setup, two res and a rigid tubing I'd like to show my Primo build, which has been up for one year. I tried to keep it clean and very quiet, hence 420mm up P/P and 360mm down P/P , there's a 240mm rad waiting to be put to the front as well. CPU - good 'ol 2600k @ 4,5GHz with EK Supremacy EVO, GPU 980 gtx evga with EK block+backplate, mobo p8p67 pro. Aquaero 6 and Farbwerk (3 led strips) are taking care of the fans, temps and colours, which usually are delta-T controlled - cool computer has a dark blue glow inside which is going past green, yellow, orange to the evil red when coolant temp hits 35-38C under a prolonged load. Actuall red-blue lightning is just for the photos sake, my wife hates such combinations and demand me to be minimalistic with LEDs or shut them down smile.gif

Cable management - well, not so easy with all of the aquacomputer stuff (aquaero, usb/aquabus D5, usb/aquabus flow meter mps400, Farbwerk, fan cables, temperature sensors), farbwerk LED-cables, internal usb cables, 3 SSDs, and so on, PSUs cables are blue-black from CableMod. You wanna full controll you have to use a lot of clips smile.gif The pump-molex cable is temporarily going around, sorry for that smile.gif








Greetings from Sweden smile.gif
Edited by krzysgro - 1/29/16 at 3:06am
post #12218 of 18696
Here is mine:



Case is absolutely fantastic, temperatures are very high tho in this one, probably the hottest case ever made (major design flaw with the front panel and top panel), i had Corsair 650D temporarily before this and had 240 predator cooling the 5820K, i was idling like 28-30C, now with Evolv ATX and bigger brother 360 Predator, my setup idles over 40C (load temps are also higher, but nothing too bad, but still!).

Any suggestions how to make temperatures better? 360 Predator is now in the stock pull configuration at the top, perhaps adding 3x more vardar fans for push pull? Or putting rad to front and fans as intake?. Removing front and top panel is not an solution, i bought this case for the looks and very nice design of the interiors.

Temps are going to be better probably on the CPU when GPU block arrives, since then all the heat is not dumped into the case. Anyway, very disappointing cooling performance even with watercooling, can only imagine what kind of sauna this is with air cooling.
post #12219 of 18696
Does anyone have an EK dual-d5 top with res mounted in the Prime? Or maybe a setup with two separate res+top combo (1-bracket, 2-back) and could post a pic? What about the vibrations with the dual-top?
post #12220 of 18696
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Assuming you havve EKWB Predator:
FYI, EKWB recalled all R1.0 Predators because of a leak risk issue. "All Revision 1.0 units produced from October 2015 until end of December 2015 are potentially affected .. "
https://www.ekwb.com/news/656/19/Important-notice-from-EKWB-EK-XLC-Predator-240-and-360-R1-0-Product-recall/

I have the rev1.1 with a 980ti GPU block installed, rev1.1 was post-recall and fixed the oring issue in the cpu block that was causing leaks in like 10% of systems at high load temps. The problem is there is too little venting in the top of the case, when I run heaven bench on my system(i5-2500k 4.5oc ~1.2v + 980ti in 240mm loop) the top panel of the case heats up so much that it's unconfortable to the touch even though the system temps don't really go above 50-60. And this is with fans at 1600 RPM. I think the top is acting like a heatsink biggrin.gif Gonna do some more testing but this might not be the best case for watercooling with a top mounted rad.

ALSO the predator 240 rad BARELY fits in the itx version, the panel bulges ever so slightly(even though I was assured by many people it would fit!).

Does anyone have fans in pull or push/pull? Predator comes default push config and that might help...I still think it would be limited by the anemic airflox capability of the top panel.
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