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Originally Posted by Ypsylon View Post

Hi guys, what better place to ask my question. If it was answered then apologies because I didn't find it.

Can I use 360/45 rad on bottom in push pull setup with both HDD cages in place? By push pull I mean 25[fan]+7[rubber spacer]+45[rad]+7[spacer]+25[fan] or 25+7+45+38[gutted fan frame which will aid in draining the loop]

I'm close to deciding what case I will use and Enthoo Primo clawed itself to the top of the list (well I would obtain another CL but with recent changes to currency exchanges and prohibitive S&H - I can get 2 Enthoo Primo just for S&H+VAT - it's out of the question). I will not run extreme system (just liquid cooled cpu-vga(no oc)-RAID controller). I have spare Nexxxos 360/45 laying around and I would like to put it in there, but I would love to retain 6 HDDs mounts. I want to avoid the need for 5.25"-3.5" backplanes as I will need that space for 2.5" RAID backplanes.
Sorry, I can't verify if radiator fits.
Just wanted to remind you the Primo is huge. I will just fit under most desk tops. wink.gif I am in no way saying not to get one. I love mine. But I also have an Enthoo Luxe (and a Enthoo Evolv ATX) While Evolv is cramped, Luxe is a good a good balance of usable space in a usable size. wink.gif
post #12562 of 19123
OK, so I will wait for confirmation.

BTW: Enthoo Primo is quite big. CaseLabs TH10A now that's huge.wink.gif
post #12563 of 19123
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Primo is 250x650x600mm
TH10A is 381x637x662mm
That is 131mm wider, but 13mm shorter & 62mm deeper
TH10A is much wider, similar height and wider. Both are huge,it's just huger.tongue.gif
post #12564 of 19123
someone made a nice RGB mod on their Evolv mATX
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Hello there Phanteks, er fans...

Have a cooling question for owners of the Primo. I'm getting idle temps that seem too high considering all the fans/coolers, and would appreciate any feedback!

Idle temps are mid 30s to 40 degrees C. Under stress test I get into the 80s, making it a pain to aggressively overclock.

My hardware is as follows, but I'm mainly wondering about my fan layout rather than the overclocking:
5960x 4.3 overclock.
x99 deluxe mobo
gtx 980 evga reference blower
Nothing else inside making heat, 4ssds, 4dds.

There is a drawing below to help illustrate, but note that there is no fan in the top where it says 'empty' and there are also 2x 120mm Cougar fans on the internal hdd cages, pulling air further into the case towards the graphics cards.

Enthoo Primo case
h100 280mm rad CPU cooler in the roof - 2x stock 140mm fans pulling air out from above.
2 x stock 140mm case fans pulling air in from the bottom
1 x stock 140mm case fan exhausting air out the back
2 x stock 140mm case fans pulling air in the front.

also 2 x 120mm cougar pwm fans on the hdd cages, pulling air from the front to the back of the case.

I'm wondering if maybe changing the fans on the rad to intake cold air might help? Or does buying batter fans really help cooling that much? I thought the stock Phantek fans that came with the case were meant to be pretty good, as they make coolers and all...

Just seems like a lot of fans to to have such high idle temps, no? Any tips appreciated thanks!
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Originally Posted by morganism View Post

Hello there Phanteks, er fans...

Have a cooling question for owners of the Primo.

What is your voltage?
Do the fans on the H110 speed up when heat increases?
Also is the cooler seated properly and tight?
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Originally Posted by morganism View Post

I'm getting idle temps that seem too high considering all the fans/coolers, and would appreciate any feedback!

Idle temps are mid 30s to 40 degrees C. Under stress test I get into the 80s, making it a pain to aggressively overclock.

My hardware is as follows, but I'm mainly wondering about my fan layout rather than the overclocking:
5960x 4.3 overclock.

Just seems like a lot of fans to to have such high idle temps, no?

I'm running the same case except I have a custom loop with a 480mm rad and 8 fans on it in push/pull. With a 5930k OCed to 4.375 I idle at about 34, so not far from your range. The fact is that the socket 2011-3 chips just run hotter. I came from an X79 board where my idle temps were about 10 degrees cooler (23-25 degrees at idle). So, one thing to consider is that the problem may not be related to the case but rather the chip.
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Originally Posted by morganism View Post

Hello there Phanteks, er fans...

Have a cooling question for owners of the Primo. I'm getting idle temps that seem too high considering all the fans/coolers, and would appreciate any feedback!

Idle temps are mid 30s to 40 degrees C. Under stress test I get into the 80s, making it a pain to aggressively overclock.

1. Phanteks fans which are designed for radiators, are in fact a good choice. I run the same case and as far as I know the stock fans are designed for radiators. I use 13 fans biggrin.gif
2. You have to tell us your room ambient temps as well. Are you able to use some temp meter which is reliable? i.e. if most refrigerators cool to 4c then see if your temp meter gives you similar result (its an assumption, not exact science)
3. How much voltage you have on your CPU? I'm not familiar with this CPU so I can't help you much there but ask in relevant forums on the voltages which are suitable for this chip at these settings to get a better understanding if your settings are too high.
4. What's the RPM of the fans on idle?
5. are you sure the cooling block sits well on the CPU?
6. did you apply thermal paste correctly?
7. The radiators should get the coldest air possible, which means pull configuration on the top radiator.
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post #12569 of 19123
Thanks for the ideas.
The cpu voltage is 1.3 at most I believe. The h110 fans do indeed speed up via pwm, as with all of the fans in the case. I've got them set to go full speed at anything above 60 c. I'm using the stock thermal paste that came pre-applied with the h110. The cooler is screwed in tightly but not overly tight, about as tight as I can go via twisting by hand, if that makes sense...

Do you think re-applying aftermarket thermal paste could make that much of a temp change?
post #12570 of 19123
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Originally Posted by InfiniteImp View Post

I'm running the same case except I have a custom loop with a 480mm rad and 8 fans on it in push/pull. With a 5930k OCed to 4.375 I idle at about 34, so not far from your range. The fact is that the socket 2011-3 chips just run hotter. I came from an X79 board where my idle temps were about 10 degrees cooler (23-25 degrees at idle). So, one thing to consider is that the problem may not be related to the case but rather the chip.

Thank you for saying this, good to know I am not alone and that even a 480mm rad heats up hot. I also went from x79 to x99.

I'm guessing my changing the fan direction on the rad won't make much of a difference then. Just wanted to ask about before I spent ages flipping the fans around....
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