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Change of plan. Instead of the nemesis gts 420, which i wanted to buy for in the top of the primo, I bought a EK Coolstream CE 420. The rad is second hand, about 7 months old. Paid €65 shipping included. Good deal I guess.

Also it seems that the gts won't even fit as its 153mm wide. The EK rad is 145.
    
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Has anyone here taken the 5.25" bays out?
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Look forward to hearing how it all sets up. I'm assuming your motherboard headers have temp to speed control, so you can probably use them (or 'Y' splitter on one) so fans cycle with component heat & airflow demands. Only problem is I've heard some of these Assus mobo have problematic fan control.

There is the cpu header and there is one extra fan header on my board. They are both 4 pin, and I have the two phanteks fans and the pwm extension piece connected to a splitter connected to that. So I do have a free 4 pin. I don't know exactly how well the fan control is. I'm thinking I will just run them at full speed for now, then maybe head down to my microcenter and pick up some kind of controller a bit later on They have the NZXT Grid Plus v2 there in stock, not sure how well it works though.
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IMHO I would use an EK dual d5 top if you really must have two D5's and add some fans to the monsta for push pull those rads need lots of air flow to make them worth their while. Especially when you consider the restrictions associated with the bottom of the Primo it needs all the help it can get. You'd get way more out of that than just adding a pump which may or may not truly be needed.

I almost bought the dual D5 top, but I had no idea where I would be able to mount it. The bottom radiator is just a UT60. I did order more fans and because I am using the 120mm pump mount I'll be able to do P/P and still be able to mount the second pump there.

It would fit if you remove the res bracket or move the UT 360 to the front and mount the dual pump in the rear similar to my setup but with a low profile tank such as yours the dual top could fit up front unless you have a rad there too if so you could always side mount the ST30 instead of the front. Really where there's a will there's a way with this case.

 

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Change of plan. Instead of the nemesis gts 420, which i wanted to buy for in the top of the primo, I bought a EK Coolstream CE 420. The rad is second hand, about 7 months old. Paid €65 shipping included. Good deal I guess.

Also it seems that the gts won't even fit as its 153mm wide. The EK rad is 145.

Although I think the Coolstream was a good buy filling from the top is impossible with only two ports facing down. I highly recommend the 7 port rads like an Alphacool Rad. especially for the top most rad, so you can fill from one of the two ports facing up and from the top of the loop it also makes draining easier too. You know the thumb on a straw trick let loose on the thumb and everything falls out? Same principle when draining unscrew a top port and everything drains quickly from your drain port preferably at the lowest point of the loop you can get it which is another reason I like the Alphacool Rads the 7th port is at the end of the rads that make a sweet spot for a drain. If it happens to be the rad in the bottom it is at the lowest spot of the loop. I can literally drain my loop, remove or add a component to the loop, or just change fluids then refill and be back up and running confidently in under an hour and the system is fully bled, air pocket and bubble free. The best planned loop can be easy to maintenance and not a time consuming nightmare.

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Redoing the loop. I think I'm going to try the bottom mounted res for this time around and see how that is.

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Very happy with the dual pump setup. Definitely dropped temps a couple degrees Celsius. Case looks a little less cluttered now that I got the reservoir away from the GPU.

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Hi everyone,

I just recently got the Enthoo Evolv ATX TG and a Kraken x61 cooler, however I ran into issues fitting the x61 on the top of the case since it was colliding with my RAM (Corsair Dominator). Instead, I've moved the x61 to the front of the case, but I'm a little worried that my GPU is not getting adequate cooling now. My plan is to add 3 120mm fans to the top, but I was wondering, is doing that okay? It doesn't look like there is a dust filter on the top of the case.

Sorry for any cooling ignorance, pretty new to this!
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Hi everyone,

I just recently got the Enthoo Evolv ATX TG and a Kraken x61 cooler, however I ran into issues fitting the x61 on the top of the case since it was colliding with my RAM (Corsair Dominator). Instead, I've moved the x61 to the front of the case, but I'm a little worried that my GPU is not getting adequate cooling now. My plan is to add 3 120mm fans to the top, but I was wondering, is doing that okay? It doesn't look like there is a dust filter on the top of the case.

Sorry for any cooling ignorance, pretty new to this!

Welcome to OCN...sorta tongue.gif.

The best way to see it is to test your current setup. You'll need some good fans for the front as that front panel can be quite restrictive. Something like the Fractal GP12/14 or the Phanteks 120SP/140SP will go a long way for you in terms of good air intake, and may even outperform the stock fans of the Kraken X61. I believe the TG comes with 3 fans already, and they should all be Phanteks SP models. I'd think 1 rear exhaust and maybe one top rear exhaust should do the trick for you to maintain a consistent airflow.
 
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Hi everyone,

I just recently got the Enthoo Evolv ATX TG and a Kraken x61 cooler, however I ran into issues fitting the x61 on the top of the case since it was colliding with my RAM (Corsair Dominator). Instead, I've moved the x61 to the front of the case, but I'm a little worried that my GPU is not getting adequate cooling now. My plan is to add 3 120mm fans to the top, but I was wondering, is doing that okay? It doesn't look like there is a dust filter on the top of the case.

Sorry for any cooling ignorance, pretty new to this!
First I'll offer my consonances for the X61. poke.gif It's cools about the same as most top tier air coolers, but costs more. At least it has decent fans which is why the sound level is not as extreme as other CLCs. Same fan blade design as TY-140 / 143 / 147 / 147A, 149 and NF-A15 / A14 have used for many years .. only difference is housing. Simple overlay of half of one fan on the others shows they are virtually the same.

The Eveolv ATX comes stock with PH-F140S:pP, which have simalr flow @ rpm as your FX 140 V2 do. To improve the flow you would need a couple 2500rpm fans like your radiator fans .. anything less will not match the flow potential of radiator. I'm not sure what would be best, but at a guess stacking another pair of radiator fans on radiator might be best option. wink.gif

Adding a back exhaust probably won't help (maybe if it's same fans as on radiator) and adding top intakes probably won't help because where is all this intake airflow potential supposed to flow out of the case? For air to enter case, it has to have at least the same area to leave the case .. what flows in must flow out / what flows out must flow in.

Using one of top fan mounts as intake or exhaust will only work if the fan / radiator mounting tray has all other holes sealed so the airflow through the fan cannot circle around and come back through the fan.

While the Evolv front looks like it's not much vent area, but the vent area there is is totally unrestricted by grill strips or mesh. This means it's 100 sq cm of area is all airflow compared to most vents with mesh loosing 20-50% of their area to the mesh and another 30-50% do to turbulence.

Sorry Pex, maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but Fractal Design GP 12 and GP 14 are not as good as PH-F140SP they are 52cfm / 0.88 mm H2O & 68 cfm / 0.71 mm H2O compared to 82 cfm / 1.33 mm H2O for F140SP. That is less free airflow rating than the stock case F140SP fans have, and the even lower pressure rating to overcome resistance they would flow significant'y less air .. and that's assuming the stock specs are accurate. Besides, the specs on stock X61 fans are better than PH-F140SP, and considering their design it's fair to assume the are. wink.gif
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Ah, I had been reading that the Fractal fans were decent...moreso than you make them sound tongue.gif.

I realized the fans that come with the case were 140SPs I felt myself less inclined to recommend other fans after that...just too lazy to look up specs and/or edit my post at the time redface.gif.
 
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