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Ah, I had been reading that the Fractal fans were decent...moreso than you make them sound tongue.gif.

I realized the fans that come with the case were 140SPs I felt myself less inclined to recommend other fans after that...just too lazy to look up specs and/or edit my post at the time redface.gif.

The Fractal Venturi series are a pretty good fan. Wouldn't be my first choice, but definitely a top tier fan. The rest of their fan lineup ranges from mediocre to downright awful.
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Welp, duly noted redface.gif.
 
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Just pulled the trigger on an anthracite grey Evolv ATX TG!
    
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Hi folks.

I am currently deadlocked between Phanteks Evolv ATX and Corsair 750D. (Fractal Design Define S was on the list but I found out that E-ATX motherboard wouln't fit in it).


Evolv ATX looks lovely and quality seems to be second to none. And from my understanding, it fits E-ATX motherboard as well.

However, I am worried about the cooling performance of Evolv ATX. From my reading around communities, it seems that cooling performance of Evolv ATX is not good.

Components I will be installing are as follows.
Intel 6950X (Broadwell-E) + Corsair H115i CPU cooler.
Asus Rampage V Extreme Edition10 (E-ATX motherboard)
nVIDIA GTX 1080 2-Way SLI
4x SSDs
Corsair AX1500i PSU

Intel's new 6950X Broadwell-E runs very hot. Hence, I really hope Evolv ATX case provides a good cooling performance. Otherwise, I'll have to opt for Corsair 750D.

Anyone using X99 systems with 2-Way SLI chime in, comment and share your experience ? Thanks!
Edited by PowerK - 6/11/16 at 5:29pm
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Hi folks.

I am currently deadlocked between Phanteks Evolv ATX and Corsair 750D. (Fractal Design Define S was on the list but I found out that E-ATX motherboard wouln't fit in it).

Mail order is a big issue. I guarantee that if you had an Evolv ATX and 750D in front of you, this wouldn't even be a question. The quality of the Evolv is worlds better, and it is readily evident in it's appearance, as well as how the components actually fit into the case. This decision should be a no-brainer (again, if you could see them first hand), it is a bit like deciding between a Ferarri and a Honda Civic that has been plastered with yellow Nuespeed stickers.

In terms of airflow, while the Evolv ATX is only average, the 750D is certainly not better and is likely actually worse - unless you get the airflow edition and change the fans, which puts it on par with the Evolv. The airflow woes of the 750D are well documented and well known, while most of the Evolv's supposed airflow issues come from supposition of those who have never used one. Were you to dig through the last few hundred pages of this thread you would find that most are having satisfactory airflow, and most of the airflow talk is tweaks to improve it.

As for the SLI, one of the nice things about the 1080 is that two of them only produce about as much heat as a single OC 980 Ti, so that will help.

A huge help would be going with a Swiftech H240-X2 (or even H220-X2) rather than a CLC. Much better performance without the huge reliance on ridiculously loud fans. The Swiftech also happens to look a whole lot better in the case - another Ferarri vs Honda Civic....
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I considered a Swiftech unit like that at one point, but was deterred by bad user reviews. This more of a user error thing or...?
 
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Could someone with an Evolv ATX TG tell me what lights it has? I'm trying to determine what it lights up like stock versus with extra led strip/s.
Thanks! thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by pez View Post

Ah, I had been reading that the Fractal fans were decent...moreso than you make them sound tongue.gif.

I realized the fans that come with the case were 140SPs I felt myself less inclined to recommend other fans after that...just too lazy to look up specs and/or edit my post at the time redface.gif.
It's hard to know what is what with anything these days. I try to keep up on at least a few fans, coolers and cases, but it's not easy. I'm trying to get some PH-F120MP and PH-F140MP to use and test. I'm hearing they are quite good, but not used them yet. The new FD Venturi seem to be good, but again, I have not used any. A couple of knowledgeable people who I trust have used and tested them and like them. Problem is they make a 1200rpm 11 blade variable voltage and a 1500rpm 7 blade PWM .. both have very differnet performance specs.
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Mail order is a big issue. I guarantee that if you had an Evolv ATX and 750D in front of you, this wouldn't even be a question. The quality of the Evolv is worlds better, and it is readily evident in it's appearance, as well as how the components actually fit into the case. This decision should be a no-brainer (again, if you could see them first hand), it is a bit like deciding between a Ferarri and a Honda Civic that has been plastered with yellow Nuespeed stickers.

In terms of airflow, while the Evolv ATX is only average, the 750D is certainly not better and is likely actually worse - unless you get the airflow edition and change the fans, which puts it on par with the Evolv. The airflow woes of the 750D are well documented and well known, while most of the Evolv's supposed airflow issues come from supposition of those who have never used one. Were you to dig through the last few hundred pages of this thread you would find that most are having satisfactory airflow, and most of the airflow talk is tweaks to improve it.

As for the SLI, one of the nice things about the 1080 is that two of them only produce about as much heat as a single OC 980 Ti, so that will help.

A huge help would be going with a Swiftech H240-X2 (or even H220-X2) rather than a CLC. Much better performance without the huge reliance on ridiculously loud fans. The Swiftech also happens to look a whole lot better in the case - another Ferarri vs Honda Civic....
Swiftech has some Swiftech 220 X and 240 X still in stock. for about same price as H115i goes for. As far as i know the 220 X and 220 X2 are basically same. The differences are mostly the aesthetics. Maybe ciarlatano can verify this.
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I considered a Swiftech unit like that at one point, but was deterred by bad user reviews. This more of a user error thing or...?
While they have not been without a few problems, they were mostly manufacturing quality control issues in first releases of some models or identiy ten tea owner problems. As far as I know Swiftech customer support resolved these to customer satisfaction.
Edited by doyll - 6/12/16 at 6:08am
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I considered a Swiftech unit like that at one point, but was deterred by bad user reviews. This more of a user error thing or...?

Well.....two things to point out. First, the X and X2 line have a lower RMA rate than any CLC on the market. And that takes into consideration the issues that had with first runs (on the X it was actually a result of shipping in cold weather, but a change was made, on the X2 it was a bad run of fittings that were of course corrected). The original H220 was a whole different story as it had a pump design flaw that didn't show up quickly - that is where the bad rap comes from, a long discontinued unit.

Second....my last three posts in the owner's thread involved someone attempting to stuff a kill coil in the res (with factory fluid, no less), someone thinking they could run Aurora 24/7, and someone wanting to use a coolant specifically named by Swiftech as being incompatible. Every one of the negative NewEgg reviews essentially reads as "I have no idea what liquid cooling is or how it works".

If you read through the owner's thread, it is 99% happy users bragging, expanding and modifying. The other 1% is "ugh, my pump is making a noise/my splitter channel 3 isn't working/I spilled liquid all over myself trying to put dye in without taking out any fluid".
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Well.....two things to point out. First, the X and X2 line have a lower RMA rate than any CLC on the market. And that takes into consideration the issues that had with first runs (on the X it was actually a result of shipping in cold weather, but a change was made, on the X2 it was a bad run of fittings that were of course corrected). The original H220 was a whole different story as it had a pump design flaw that didn't show up quickly - that is where the bad rap comes from, a long discontinued unit.

Second....my last three posts in the owner's thread involved someone attempting to stuff a kill coil in the res (with factory fluid, no less), someone thinking they could run Aurora 24/7, and someone wanting to use a coolant specifically named by Swiftech as being incompatible. Every one of the negative NewEgg reviews essentially reads as "I have no idea what liquid cooling is or how it works".

If you read through the owner's thread, it is 99% happy users bragging, expanding and modifying. The other 1% is "ugh, my pump is making a noise/my splitter channel 3 isn't working/I spilled liquid all over myself trying to put dye in without taking out any fluid".
As i remember it, the original H220 pump problem was resolved and some other company is still selling it?? Can't remember who took it over as a CLC and no idea if they used same radiator. The original H220 had a short life with Swiftech because of Asetec design patent infringement lawsuit. Asetec patented the pump on waterblock design concept, so even though the H220 pump was worlds different to Asetek CLC pumps, it was indeed on the waterblock .. therefore a patent infringement.. rolleyes.gif
Edited by doyll - 6/12/16 at 7:31am
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