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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

This is not correct. It is actually very incorrect. Noctua fans are middling at best on radiators.


I will add the PH-F120MP overlay on db to airflow graph. While it does not have the maximum rpm of the others, it is clearly one of the best up to its rpm limit. biggrin.gif
post #13832 of 19204
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Originally Posted by Insr33 View Post

Ok, you seem to be knowing what you are talking about wink.gif Will stick with the EK fans then! On multiple builds I see people putting fans in frond + behind the rad. My idea was to let the front fans pull air through the rad while the fan in the back of the case pushing the hot air out again? Will this be enough? (not planning to overclock)
thx for sharing your build! looks very nice smile.gif Actually you prove my question. (whether the pump can be installed on top or not) Did you have a lot of problems installing the rad into the Phanteks atx case? (clearance?)

Eh, let's just say I have a weeeeee bit more experience with components than the average user here. wink.gif
That doesn't necessarily mean I know what I'm talking about.....tongue.gif

Two things - seeing a user with something installed in a particular fashion does not answer your question. It could very well be installed incorrectly. However, simply glancing at the install manual (https://www.ekwb.com/shop/EK-IM/EK-IM-3831109863343.pdf) or asking an EK rep in the Predator thread will get you a positive answer. Which, in this case, is that the unit can be mounted in that orientation, but may require more frequent top offs since the pump and res at the top will be more subject to the effects of evaporation.

As far as push/pull, it is advantageous on thicker radiators. On slim radiators (such as the one used on the Predator), it is nothing but another noise source with no real performance benefit. Many do it on slim rads purely for looks, or simply because they don't actually research what they are doing (which, btw, is the best way to totally screw up in liquid cooling) and believe the old "my friend's neighbor's dog walker's boyfriend's cousin put push/pull on their H100 and dropped the temps eleventy hundred degrees!!!!" posts.
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I am looking for a case to house my old Rampage IV Extreme motherboard which is an E-ATX board and i was looking at both the P400 and the Enthoo Pro M but i am not sure those cases are big enough for a Rampage IV?
Am i going to have to get a Phanteks Enthoo Pro if i want to re-use my old Rampage IV?

Rampage IV size

Extended ATX Form Factor
12 inch x 10.7 inch ( 30.5 cm x 27.2 cm )

Really dont want a full tower if i can avoid it.
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I am looking for a case to house my old Rampage IV Extreme motherboard which is an E-ATX board and i was looking at both the P400 and the Enthoo Pro M but i am not sure those cases are big enough for a Rampage IV?
Am i going to have to get a Phanteks Enthoo Pro if i want to re-use my old Rampage IV?

Rampage IV size

Extended ATX Form Factor
12 inch x 10.7 inch ( 30.5 cm x 27.2 cm )

Really dont want a full tower if i can avoid it.

You and someone right before both asked a similar question (minus the P400). I think what interferes with the Pro M/Evolv ATX layout is that the case angles where the grommets are located, and I'm pretty sure this conflicts with that particular board, and other E-ATX boards that are >264mm. Someone else confirmed this I believe, but I'll wait for more users to chime in.
 
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post #13835 of 19204
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You and someone right before both asked a similar question (minus the P400). I think what interferes with the Pro M/Evolv ATX layout is that the case angles where the grommets are located, and I'm pretty sure this conflicts with that particular board, and other E-ATX boards that are >264mm. Someone else confirmed this I believe, but I'll wait for more users to chime in.
I did read that on Phanteks´s website but i wanted to be sure
Sounds like the Pro M is out.
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post #13836 of 19204
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Originally Posted by Insr33 View Post

Ok, you seem to be knowing what you are talking about wink.gif Will stick with the EK fans then! On multiple builds I see people putting fans in frond + behind the rad. My idea was to let the front fans pull air through the rad while the fan in the back of the case pushing the hot air out again? Will this be enough? (not planning to overclock)
thx for sharing your build! looks very nice smile.gif Actually you prove my question. (whether the pump can be installed on top or not) Did you have a lot of problems installing the rad into the Phanteks atx case? (clearance?)

Top mount is difficult in this case but front no problems what so ever. you will be unable to mount the predator at the front of the evolv with the pump at the bottom.
post #13837 of 19204
Newegg has a standard return policy on motherboards. Or at least the Rampage V Edition 10. I think I'm just going to orser the board and give it a shot. Unless someone can confirm. Or a possible mode with some careful useage of a dremel.
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post #13838 of 19204
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

I am looking for a case to house my old Rampage IV Extreme motherboard which is an E-ATX board and i was looking at both the P400 and the Enthoo Pro M but i am not sure those cases are big enough for a Rampage IV?
Am i going to have to get a Phanteks Enthoo Pro if i want to re-use my old Rampage IV?

Rampage IV size

Extended ATX Form Factor
12 inch x 10.7 inch ( 30.5 cm x 27.2 cm )

Really dont want a full tower if i can avoid it.
Pro M motherboard compatibility, is 272mm. Tthe bend in the motherboard tray (to create more clearance for cable management) reduces clearance. This slope at bend is where the grommets are located (see Evolv ATX chassis as reference, it’s basically the same chassis). If I’m not mistaken, boards wider then 264 will touch the grommets. I can’t say for sure but would seem a 272mm board will fit in, but might need to remove the grommets .. and then I would want to be very sure there was enough clearance so nothing can short out.
post #13839 of 19204
Would like to be able to use the grommets
Its going to be the Pro then unless i can find a mid tower case from another brand that has room for a Rampage IV

Anyone know about any small cases with room for 272mm board?
At this point i dont even care if its a Corsair case just need something small cheap but with enough room.
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post #13840 of 19204
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Originally Posted by shilka View Post

Would like to be able to use the grommets
Its going to be the Pro then unless i can find a mid tower case from another brand that has room for a Rampage IV

Anyone know about any small cases with room for 272mm board?
At this point i dont even care if its a Corsair case just need something small cheap but with enough room.
There was someone I talked to before planning to use a Rampage IV in Evolv ATX, but I don't remember if they ever did it and replied that it did or did not work.
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