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They should really put some dampning on that door for us bay res ppl tongue.gif the second loudest thing in my enthoo es the door frown.gif

Have anyone other than me got some problems with the the front io cover not clamping down properly? Mine got a gap right underneath the pwr_on switch mad.gif
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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

I used red LED "sunlight sticks" in my most recent build prior to the Enthoo; the effect is kinda like looking through a piece of red celophane -- everything is just shades of red. Not a good look.

Not sure about the 780 blocks, mine are 770. Check frozencpu & performance-pcs? If it exists, I'm sure one of them carries it.

I tried scouring Google (including Frozen/Performance) and they don't seem to exist... the closest I found was "GTX [blank]" on XSPC's own site. I guess I don't mind it saying Titan since it's on the underside of the card, but still disappointing.0000

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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

XSPC delivers a great bang for the buck. I don't think there is any block out there that performs as well as the raystor for the money. Also if you don't like the look of the raystorm, they also have a full copper version with aluminum bracket available. That puts it in the price of other all metal blocks but its still cheaper.

I have used both XSPC, and EK, and I love the mounting mechanism on EK.
I did read that the EK mounting is a truly easy experience, but is this something I should base my decision off of?
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Koolance 380i is the king in LGA2011



NZXT dual bay res + MPC655 variable - Not a a fan of Bay Reservoirs .... rattling and leakage issues ..... I sooo wanted a tube res made outta borosilicate glass but they 75 and 80mm and wont go in Enthoo.....you can mount an EK tube res off brackets mounted at back of that thick bottom panel in 5.25 bays .... I designed them and they were scheduled for fabrication but turned out that I was able to fit on bracket by 7mm. If ya want I can send ya the CAD files.

Monsta 480 bottom - will fit

Alphacool XT45 480 top - Id recommend the 420 ....slightly more cooling area and can use top ports for fill / bleed .

I used rigid tube and bitspower fittings ... if ya want, ya can download flow diagram and parts list a few pages back.

My setup similar to yours other than platform...I went with M6F and 4770k ....aslo did 780s (Asus DCII w/ EK Blocks, also 2 HDs (well SSHDs) but I cheaped out w/ (2) 256 SSDs ... if I did it again wuda went 1 TB...oh and 1250 watt seasonic cause of the big pump
Ah, I didn't know this about bay res'. I originally wanted a tube res with some subtle lighting, but I found that mounting one on the bracket isn't possible with dual GK110 cards and mounting it on the side above the 480 bottom rad would block my EVGA SLI light-up bridge in an awkward manner as well as interfere with the Razor block lighting. Perhaps I can stuff pieces of foam between the drive bay walls and the res to reduce vibrations? Or I could mount the pump in the back of the case and route it to a bay res, but if possible I'd like them combined to save space and clutter. Thoughts?
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EK waterblocks are definitely love em or hate em, but they seem to perform very well. The Raystorm is popular because it looks good to many people and mostly because it performs really well for the price. The EK Supremacy performs about the same, with the Raystorm winning in some situations and the EK winning in others, but they're usually about the same. I personally like the look of EK's acrylic blocks and tube res's. I'll have an EK 250 tube res, clear/nickel Supremacy block, and GTX 780 water block, which should all looks really well together. The EK lets you see your coolant and has led holes in the side for what it's worth. Not much more than the Raystorm.
While I do like the EK circles, I didn't think it was appropriate for a RIVE Black's radical angles and slashes. My gripes about the Raystorm and the Razor blocks are that the LED's require a whole 4 pin molex (2x LED per cable) which means I'll need 3 molex and 6 led cables running amok in my case. IDK how I'd make that look clean.






One thing I forgot to mention is that I want to go for a relatively silent build. I'll have 8x 2150rpm Gentle Typhoons on the 480 monsta at low speeds (using an nzxt mesh analogue controller atm) and 8x 1850rpm for the XT45. Will a MCP655 with a low pump speed (to reduce noise) be able to pump all the way through my loop with relative ease? Or am I undershooting on the pump?
post #1393 of 18661
EK or XSPC or Heatkiller, whatever you choose, pick something that would look good in your build. I can live with a 5 degree difference, but I cannot live with something that I don't like, no matter how great it is. Blocks are not that difficult to install. Its just like installing a air cooler just smaller and more expensive.
post #1394 of 18661
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Originally Posted by ADragg View Post

EK waterblocks are definitely love em or hate em, but they seem to perform very well. The Raystorm is popular because it looks good to many people and mostly because it performs really well for the price. The EK Supremacy performs about the same, with the Raystorm winning in some situations and the EK winning in others, but they're usually about the same. I personally like the look of EK's acrylic blocks and tube res's. I'll have an EK 250 tube res, clear/nickel Supremacy block, and GTX 780 water block, which should all looks really well together. The EK lets you see your coolant and has led holes in the side for what it's worth. Not much more than the Raystorm.

One thing that surprised me.....I dont like the circles look..... so I got the clean version. I didn't know it when I bought and I didn't realize it until 3 days after i assembled it but the is the ONLY EK block (at least for the Asus 780) of the 3 available that will fit in SLI in the Enthoo with the res bracket in place. Tho all are "full cover" ... only the clean fits. The other two are about an inch longer .... and the 2nd card in SLI when in the 4th and 5th slot 93 slot spacing) hit the slanted part on the res bracket.

Fits w/ res bracked - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21270/ex-blc-1529/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_Nickel.html

No Fit - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21271/ex-blc-1530/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Nickel_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_AcetalNickel.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21272/ex-blc-1531/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_CSQ_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_Nickel_Original_CSQ.html

LEDs arrived from China today .... hadda take rads out to get in. Well they hadda come out anyway need to be cleaned and flushed. BTW, aquarium owners have it easy

http://www.unbeatablesale.com/bci14906.html

Easiest way ever to drain an aquarium, clean the gravel, fill or grain a water bed and flush rads.
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but I found that mounting one on the bracket isn't possible with dual GK110 cards and mounting


it's on my dimensional drawing .... but IIRC, my Asus 780s are 10.5" long and fit with 7mm to spare. That's 10.78"

Isn't the 780 Ti 10.8" long ? ..... maybe a lil shaving ? ......again, if ya use a full cover make sure it's not one that goes to the edge of the card but stops like an inch short .
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One thing I forgot to mention is that I want to go for a relatively silent build. I'll have 8x 2150rpm Gentle Typhoons on the 480 monsta at low speeds (using an nzxt mesh analogue controller atm) and 8x 1850rpm for the XT45. Will a MCP655 with a low pump speed (to reduce noise) be able to pump all the way through my loop with relative ease? Or am I undershooting on the pump?


I went with a 35x2 just so i cud set it at 40% and be sure of plenty of flow and very very low noise.....I also went full parallel, no block, no crystal link. As for fans, I'm using Phanteks 1250s
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/18/13 at 9:37pm
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post #1395 of 18661
What in the world is up with the side panels? I've had them leaning against the wall all day, off the case and I've heard them creak periodically all day. Must be the plexiglass...
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So, the first stage of my Enthoo build is complete, my system internals now reside in the Enthoo Primo. biggrin.gif Watercooling is still underway, so it's basically just my old hardware in a new case right now. Which brings me to my big "AHA!" moment and a question....

Somehow, in all the months of detailed planning for this build, I failed to realize that just like everybody else my bottom gpu will not fit with the reservoir mount installed. I literally drew mock-up blueprints of the entire installation at one point, but apparently I was convinced my gpu's were 10" long when they're actually 10.5". Talk about missing the forest for the trees, huh? lol doh.gif

thinking.gif

So, options:

a) mod the reservoir mount to accomodate lower gpu clearance (problem: I know nothing about dremelling)
b) mount the reservoir on the rear panel instead (problem: obstructs gpu access and forces me to redesign my entire loop)
c) redesign the entire loop with a bay reservoir (problem: I already bought a XSPC Photon res + freestanding Swiftech pump)

questionmark.gifQuestion for you experienced mod'ers: is there a good reason I shouldn't take a dremel to the bottom 3" lip, dremel it straight down to effectively extend the middle recess all the way to the base? (leaving the actual base where the mounting holes are intact, of course). I've never used a dremel before, but I'm pretty handy, I could figure it out. I'm not too keen on spending on a tool I wouldn't likely use again for years, but at this point that's a drop in a VERY big bucket, so whatever. lol Or I'd be glad to pay to have a pro mod it for me if I could find a shop in nyc that does metal cutting/mod work on a walk-in basis (i.e. without me having to ship the piece off somewhere and wait for it to be returned....I'm not trying to wait another several weeks to finally get the last stage of my project complete, I want my dream system gaming-ready by Thanksgiving)

Or is there some reason mod'ing the panel isn't a good idea? I've read reports of many people with this problem (obviously), but very few of them solving the problem by mod'ing the mounting panel. Why not? I can't imagine ever wanting that lower portion to jut out again - it's not like graphics cards are getting shorter in the future. lol The permanence this particular mod doesn't concern me, IMHO Phanteks should have cut the panel to accomodate multi-gpu setups in the first place.

So, is extending the recessed middle portion down to the bottom with a dremel a reasonable solution, or am I missing some totally obvious reason I can't/shouldn't go this route?

To illustrate, in case my idea doesn't come across clear in words, I am thinking about dremelling off the portion marked with the red crosshatch (pardon the rough-n-dirty mock up, but it shuold get my point across)


Edited by chrisnyc75 - 11/18/13 at 9:47pm
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Regarding the modding, just keep in mind you want to cut it clean, which with a dremel isn't easy. I know for me, if it was cut even the slightest off it would irritate me. So perhaps it would be better if you could find a shop with a band saw, maybe cut notches and bend the part you need back rather than cutting it out.

Another option is to cut it and put a rubber seal around the entire thing. Again, just my opinion. I would want it looking perfect.
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Regarding the modding, just keep in mind you want to cut it clean, which with a dremel isn't easy. I know for me, if it was cut even the slightest off it would irritate me. So perhaps it would be better if you could find a shop with a band saw, maybe cut notches and bend the part you need back rather than cutting it out.

Another option is to cut it and put a rubber seal around the entire thing. Again, just my opinion. I would want it looking perfect.

Agreed, I don't want a jagged or uneven edge, though I'm perfectly willing to put in the time to buff, sand, or seal the edge to make it look appropriate. I guess I'll call around to some local hardware stores and see if any of them do consignment metal cutting/modification. I have a feeling that's a bigger undertaking than just doing it myself, though. lol Anybody in the NYC area know a place that does this sort of thing?
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What in the world is up with the side panels? I've had them leaning against the wall all day, off the case and I've heard them creak periodically all day. Must be the plexiglass...

i went into detail on this some 20 pages back ... it;s a U shaped channel so it rubs on 3 sides.... and the fastening method results in varying pressure at every tab.

is had mine apart for 2 weeks.... still haven't thought of a way to muzzle.


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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

So, the first stage of my Enthoo build is complete, my system internals now reside in the Enthoo Primo. biggrin.gif Watercooling is still underway, so it's basically just my old hardware in a new case right now. Which brings me to my big "AHA!" moment and a question....

Somehow, in all the months of detailed planning for this build, I failed to realize that just like everybody else my bottom gpu will not fit with the reservoir mount installed. I literally drew mock-up blueprints of the entire installation at one point, but apparently I was convinced my gpu's were 10" long when they're actually 10.5". Talk about missing the forest for the trees, huh? lol doh.gif

-My 780's w/ waterblock are 10.5" long
-The 2nd card in slots 4 and 5 clears the res bracket by 7mm

Posted pics some pages back



Option 4 ....Look at my pic ... why aren't you fitting and I am ?



Option 5 .... I didn't think it would fit and designed an alternative ... which I no longer need ... it's yours smile.gif



Check w/ Phanteks ...when I was facing this dilemma I as in regular contact ..... was told "Res Bracket 2 is in development. I have a shop in CONN that s doing my pump adapter plate ... I'll ask what they'd want to do your mod.


I'd use a band or scroll saw,.... but again, why does mu 10.5" card fit and your's doesn't ? ....not watercooled ?

I think you should drive out and visit me this weekend and take some pics smile.gif

Id send ya more pics but i'm getting ready to leave for Cortland, NY ..... going to visit my son, then going to FrozenCPU (pilgrimage to Geek Mecca" to pick up my order) then hitting some clients on way back .... I'll text them to ya..... see my PM.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/18/13 at 10:55pm
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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

So, the first stage of my Enthoo build is complete, my system internals now reside in the Enthoo Primo. biggrin.gif Watercooling is still underway, so it's basically just my old hardware in a new case right now. Which brings me to my big "AHA!" moment and a question....

Somehow, in all the months of detailed planning for this build, I failed to realize that just like everybody else my bottom gpu will not fit with the reservoir mount installed. I literally drew mock-up blueprints of the entire installation at one point, but apparently I was convinced my gpu's were 10" long when they're actually 10.5". Talk about missing the forest for the trees, huh? lol doh.gif

thinking.gif

So, options:

a) mod the reservoir mount to accomodate lower gpu clearance (problem: I know nothing about dremelling)
b) mount the reservoir on the rear panel instead (problem: obstructs gpu access and forces me to redesign my entire loop)
c) redesign the entire loop with a bay reservoir (problem: I already bought a XSPC Photon res + freestanding Swiftech pump)

questionmark.gifQuestion for you experienced mod'ers: is there a good reason I shouldn't take a dremel to the bottom 3" lip, dremel it straight down to effectively extend the middle recess all the way to the base? (leaving the actual base where the mounting holes are intact, of course). I've never used a dremel before, but I'm pretty handy, I could figure it out. I'm not too keen on spending on a tool I wouldn't likely use again for years, but at this point that's a drop in a VERY big bucket, so whatever. lol Or I'd be glad to pay to have a pro mod it for me if I could find a shop in nyc that does metal cutting/mod work on a walk-in basis (i.e. without me having to ship the piece off somewhere and wait for it to be returned....I'm not trying to wait another several weeks to finally get the last stage of my project complete, I want my dream system gaming-ready by Thanksgiving)

Or is there some reason mod'ing the panel isn't a good idea? I've read reports of many people with this problem (obviously), but very few of them solving the problem by mod'ing the mounting panel. Why not? I can't imagine ever wanting that lower portion to jut out again - it's not like graphics cards are getting shorter in the future. lol The permanence this particular mod doesn't concern me, IMHO Phanteks should have cut the panel to accomodate multi-gpu setups in the first place.

So, is extending the recessed middle portion down to the bottom with a dremel a reasonable solution, or am I missing some totally obvious reason I can't/shouldn't go this route?

To illustrate, in case my idea doesn't come across clear in words, I am thinking about dremelling off the portion marked with the red crosshatch (pardon the rough-n-dirty mock up, but it shuold get my point across)


Why don't you do what I did and just drill through the main motherboard support plate with the res bracket removed? Without it there is plenty of space for a tube res. I put the brackets in between the two grommets and it worked a treat.
By doing that you also expose the circular grommet in the 'step' which allows a straight shot between the bottom of the tube res and the pump on the pump bracket.



Edited by Hereisphilly - 11/18/13 at 11:41pm
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