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Just finished tu put my rig inside my new pro m (acrylic windowed), added 2 120mm white spectres at the top, they are dead silent, but original 140 fans are a bit loud at 12v, need to regulate them.

Looks very nice.

What Noc cooler is that and what fans are you using? Looks like a NH-D14, but you have the fan mounted differently than normal.

Your two white Spectres are likely raising the temp of air going into CPU cooler, meaning CPU temps will be warmer. wink.gif
You would be better served returning them and getting another PH-F140SP for a second front intake.

Definitely use the included PWM controlled fan hub for your 3-pin case fans. It requires PWM signal form CPU fan header and PSU power. Then it will control your case fans.

Alternately you could use system fan headers on motherboard directly to 2 or 3 fans at most on each one. All depends on what your motherboard fan control features are.

Removing unused PCIe back slot covers will also improve front to back airflow in lower half of case, thus allowing less of the GPU heated exhaust to go up into CPU cool air supply.
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Your two white Spectres are likely raising the temp of air going into CPU cooler, meaning CPU temps will be warmer. wink.gif
You would be better served returning them and getting another PH-F140SP for a second front intake.

You forgot the LED strip..... wink.gif
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You forgot the LED strip..... wink.gif
doh.gif I'm having a very hard time getting my head around this 'LED lighting improves cooling and performance' thing. biggrin.gif
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Looks very nice.

What Noc cooler is that and what fans are you using? Looks like a NH-D14, but you have the fan mounted differently than normal.

Your two white Spectres are likely raising the temp of air going into CPU cooler, meaning CPU temps will be warmer. wink.gif
You would be better served returning them and getting another PH-F140SP for a second front intake.

Definitely use the included PWM controlled fan hub for your 3-pin case fans. It requires PWM signal form CPU fan header and PSU power. Then it will control your case fans.

Alternately you could use system fan headers on motherboard directly to 2 or 3 fans at most on each one. All depends on what your motherboard fan control features are.

Removing unused PCIe back slot covers will also improve front to back airflow in lower half of case, thus allowing less of the GPU heated exhaust to go up into CPU cool air supply.

Thanks for advices, I changed few things.

Never noticed that my d14 fans were inverted thanks ! (not sure it changes something
though)
Removed 5.25 bay, put 1 spectre at the front (lowering the 140mm) and took of the second spectre, looks cleaner imo.
I removed pciex slots too, but I dont like these holes frown.gif I'll put them back in place.
Also both 140mm are now on sysfans header, created fan curve from the bios it's MUCH more quiet now ! (spectre is still 12v).

If temps are not good, I'll replace the spectre with something more powerfull.

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Thanks for advices, I changed few things.

Never noticed that my d14 fans were inverted thanks ! (not sure it changes something
though)
Removed 5.25 bay, put 1 spectre at the front (lowering the 140mm) and took of the second spectre, looks cleaner imo.
I removed pciex slots too, but I dont like these holes frown.gif I'll put them back in place.
Also both 140mm are now on sysfans header, created fan curve from the bios it's MUCH more quiet now ! (spectre is still 12v).

If temps are not good, I'll replace the spectre with something more powerfull.

I agree, the cooler fan placement probably makes little to no difference.
Moving the back PH-F140SP to front would probably improve airflow.
Removing the PCIe slot covers usually lowers temps, but if temps are good it doesn't matter if they are in or out.
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Originally Posted by mat311 View Post

Thanks for advices, I changed few things.

Never noticed that my d14 fans were inverted thanks ! (not sure it changes something
though)
Removed 5.25 bay, put 1 spectre at the front (lowering the 140mm) and took of the second spectre, looks cleaner imo.
I removed pciex slots too, but I dont like these holes frown.gif I'll put them back in place.
Also both 140mm are now on sysfans header, created fan curve from the bios it's MUCH more quiet now ! (spectre is still 12v).

If temps are not good, I'll replace the spectre with something more powerfull.


@doyll's suggestion of swapping the rear F140SP and the Spectre is a good one if you don't want to spend any money at all. The F140SP will move substantially more air in the front of that case, while the Spectre can work freely in the rear, and the open top will help with the exhaust.
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I think we have some leftover screen door mesh, so I may take out my empty PCI slot covers and try that route, though I'm not seeing terrible temps at all tongue.gif. Can't wait to see what my temps are like with the second 1080 biggrin.gif.
 
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So, I've found a way to be able to install two EK SE 360's into my case (Evolv ATX TG) without any real mods. I did kind of cheat a little bit, bit no mods. On the top I currently have a 360*26mm radiators, and, I do believe my 360*26mm in the front installation idea will work also.

I had to push the top mounted radiator as far back as possible. To do this, I removed the top panel of the case, and loosely installed the radiator on the removeable bracket, so it could slide forward or back. I put the bracket into it's top mount position, then slid it all the way to the case rear. Which is where I'll tighten it, then put the top cover back on. To mount the front radiator, and still have the inlets and outlets at on the top of the radiator (so air can escape the radiator easily), I actually switched locations with where the front intake fans mount and where the radiator mounts. This gave me the clearance needed to be able to put fittings on the front mounted radiator. Here's a quick couple of pictures.Sorry for the low quality, my camera on my phone is a bit damaged.

So, if I went with a 26mm thick radiator in the front, and mounted the top 360mm radiator as normal, this is the maximum clearance I can achieve, with the inlets on the rad towards the bottom of the case. This also will not work with two EK 360's, but only a 240mm rad, as the 360mm is too tall, and you can't slide in one of the radiators.




But what I did here was switch where the front fans and radiator would be mounted. Since the radiator is the same thickness as a fan (or 1mm more to be technical) here it is fitting in nicely. I used a 2x45degree fitting to squeeze between the two radiators, also, as seen here. A single 45-degree fitting (or maybe even 90 degree fitting) would likely work as well. It's not the most elegant solution, but it's a solution. I'm still trying to find a way to have the radiator in it's normal place, and the fans in their normal place too. But, there won't be enough clearance if I do anything else it seems. Also, with this particular radiator, I didn't need to use any special fittings for the other inlet on it, because it's offset from the top radiator and has plenty of clearance for just a simple compression fitting on it's own.




Next, I was able to check just how bad the flexing on my ASUS ROG RVE10 motherboard was. This motherboard is 272mm wide, and, the case only officially supports motherboards up to 272mm wide. I originally had left the rubber grommets on the side piece first, but they had to be removed for me to be able to really sit the board down nice and straight. I also had to remove the motherboard's backplate and LED piece. This kind of upsets me a bit, because it's only 8mm. If they had just made they case (and motherboard tray) another 10mm deeper from front to back, it would not have made the case significantly larger, but it would have GREATLY improved dual 360mm rad compatibility AND allowed for regular E-ATX motherboards to work without an issue. That's my one biggest complaint about the case, is that they didn't just make it 3/8-1/2" deeper front to back.

Some pictures "measuring" the flex. I'd definitely recommend using electrical tape to insulate that side of the board going along the angular piece, just as a precaution. Get the good stuff, that will stick for a long time, not the cheap crappy stuff. And remove the grommets, and you'll fit what basically looks flawlessly. I don't believe anything on the board touches, but again, electrical tape just to be sure.

This image makes it look a lot worse than it really is in real life. It basically doesn't flex here, as far as I can tell.



And this image, the grommets were installed. The grommets will make the motherboard flex, but, even with the grommets installed and the board flexing some, there was still space between the SATA data ports and the side of my graphics card, so they weren't touching.

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^ I did say if you can mount the top rad as far back as possible. wink.gif
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post #14170 of 19129
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^ I did say if you can mount the top rad as far back as possible. wink.gif
The picture where the front rad is fitting, is with the top rad as far back as possible. It's touching the rear of the case. lol

And it still BARELY makes it. I think I might mount my rad upside down, and fill the case sideways, so no air bubbles get trapped.
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