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Is this the case if you're using 3 or 4 pin fans on the header? I was under the impression you'd have to set it to voltage based if you had 3-pin fans? Or does the controller itself see the PWM signal and convert it...? I'm using the Phanteks hub (Phanteks PH-PWHUB_01 PWM Fan Hub) vs the one in the TG, but I'm curious.

The hub uses a PWM signal input to control fans by voltage regulation. It requires a PWM signal to operate, it can not vary output speeds without it.
post #14202 of 19062
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

The hub uses a PWM signal input to control fans by voltage regulation. It requires a PWM signal to operate, it can not vary output speeds without it.

I think I was overthinking it. Took a gander at the manual on the Phanteks site and it set me straight tongue.gif. I'm a bit sleep deprived and was not thinking too clearly about a few key aspects redface.gif.
 
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post #14203 of 19062
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Is this the case if you're using 3 or 4 pin fans on the header? I was under the impression you'd have to set it to voltage based if you had 3-pin fans? Or does the controller itself see the PWM signal and convert it...? I'm using the Phanteks hub (Phanteks PH-PWHUB_01 PWM Fan Hub) vs the one in the TG, but I'm curious.

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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

The hub uses a PWM signal input to control fans by voltage regulation. It requires a PWM signal to operate, it can not vary output speeds without it.

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Originally Posted by pez View Post

I think I was overthinking it. Took a gander at the manual on the Phanteks site and it set me straight tongue.gif. I'm a bit sleep deprived and was not thinking too clearly about a few key aspects redface.gif.

Not sure if all, but I do know some of the Phanteks PWM hubs can be used as variable voltage fan header splitters. The 3-pin variable voltage from mobo fan header regulates the fan speed as long as the PSU power lead is not plugged into PSU.

But like I said, I don't know if all versions allow this, and be careful to not use more than about 9-10 watt total fan wattage or you may damage the mobo fan header.
post #14204 of 19062
I have mine going through the CPU_Fan and the SATA power is connected as it has 5 fans (2 Noctuas on the cooler + 3 140SPs). I know my BIOS has the ability to do both ways, but I honestly haven't sat down to tweak it. I've been doing quite a few hardware changes, and I'm so eager to play games in between that I'm not totally bothered by tweaking it perfectly. That said, the 3 140SPs aren't so loud that I'm going nuts redface.gif.
 
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post #14205 of 19062
My case fans aren't coming on by connecting just the SATA connector for the Phanteks Evolv ATX TG. I thought it was supposed to be running at full speed if you powered it by SATA.

Reason I am not using the CPU header 2 on the MSI gaming 5 z97 motherboard is that l screwed up yesterday when I was transferring all CPU components to the case. Couldn't really see the top when connecting the NZXT X61 fan connector to the CPU header and I accidently connected the wrong 3 pin on the 4 pin header. There was a flash and smoke and seems like i fried the CPU FAN connector 1.

Hence connected the NZXT x61 fan connector to the CPU fan connector 2 and its working fine now. If i connect to the fried one, everything is fine but temps keep rising in BIOS to like 99'C. This gets solved when i boot into windows and temps normalize but Fan rpm still shows as 0. Anyway , that is a different issue altogether. frown.gif
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My case fans aren't coming on by connecting just the SATA connector for the Phanteks Evolv ATX TG. I thought it was supposed to be running at full speed if you powered it by SATA.

Reason I am not using the CPU header 2 on the MSI gaming 5 z97 motherboard is that l screwed up yesterday when I was transferring all CPU components to the case. Couldn't really see the top when connecting the NZXT X61 fan connector to the CPU header and I accidently connected the wrong 3 pin on the 4 pin header. There was a flash and smoke and seems like i fried the CPU FAN connector 1.

Hence connected the NZXT x61 fan connector to the CPU fan connector 2 and its working fine now. If i connect to the fried one, everything is fine but temps keep rising in BIOS to like 99'C. This gets solved when i boot into windows and temps normalize but Fan rpm still shows as 0. Anyway , that is a different issue altogether. frown.gif
My PWM hubs don't work without the motherboard connected either. tongue.gif Maybe some do, I don't know.

Sorry to hear about your problems.

If the CPU fan header was working fine, I don't think your temps wouldn't keep climbing. Me thinks you have more of a problem than you realize. helpinghand.gif
post #14207 of 19062
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My PWM hubs don't work without the motherboard connected either. tongue.gif Maybe some do, I don't know.

Sorry to hear about your problems.

If the CPU fan header was working fine, I don't think your temps wouldn't keep climbing. Me thinks you have more of a problem than you realize. helpinghand.gif

Well, the temp issue was solved by connecting the NZXT X61 fan connector to the motherboard CPU fan connector 2. Now its working fine and regulating it properly.

Since I lost that connector slot, I went ahead and connected the Phanteks hub connector to the SYSFAN 2 or SYSFAN 3 (tried both) as well as the SATA connector. But still the case fans dont seem work. Was hoping that was a solution here.
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Originally Posted by Alias View Post

Well, the temp issue was solved by connecting the NZXT X61 fan connector to the motherboard CPU fan connector 2. Now its working fine and regulating it properly.

Since I lost that connector slot, I went ahead and connected the Phanteks hub connector to the SYSFAN 2 or SYSFAN 3 (tried both) as well as the SATA connector. But still the case fans dont seem work. Was hoping that was a solution here.
If you have a PWM splitter you could try putting both onto CPU fan 2 .. or just plug the fans into the sys fan headers. You can use a splitter and run 2 on each header no problem.
post #14209 of 19062
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If you have a PWM splitter you could try putting both onto CPU fan 2 .. or just plug the fans into the sys fan headers. You can use a splitter and run 2 on each header no problem.

Thanks for the help so far!

Yeah a PWM splitter may be my next choice but I thought I could get the fans running by connecting it to the SYS Fan headers and powering it by the SATA module. But they arent running. Checked and rechecked but can't find a reason why they won't run if not connected to the CPU header.
post #14210 of 19062
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Originally Posted by Alias View Post

Well, the temp issue was solved by connecting the NZXT X61 fan connector to the motherboard CPU fan connector 2. Now its working fine and regulating it properly.

Since I lost that connector slot, I went ahead and connected the Phanteks hub connector to the SYSFAN 2 or SYSFAN 3 (tried both) as well as the SATA connector. But still the case fans dont seem work. Was hoping that was a solution here.

This is an easy fix, since the X61 doesn't use PWM for anything, and the fan speeds are not controlled through the header at all.

First, plug the hub into CPU_2. That solves your hub issue.

Second, you need to power the X61. Preferably, get a 4-pin (or open 3-pin) to SATA adpater (https://www.amazon.com/BuyCheapCables%C2%AE-Molex-Connector-Adapter-3-pack/dp/B00M7GVDME/) and plug the X61 directly to the PSU. This also keeps those nasty Asetek pump faults from torching another header.

Alternately, you can plug the X61 to the SYS header, but you must set that header to be at maximum at all times, no fan curve.
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