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HERE. I had one in my Amazon order i placed last week. I deleted it at the last minute when i saw the upcoming Monsoon HardLine Accessories tongue.gif

There's a bunch of similar ones on Amazon. Just search like Pipe Reamer, Pipe Debur, Acrylic Debur, Acrylic Reamer, etc. I found like 15 different ones

Amazon was outta stock.,...Home depot isn't and no mail smile.gif
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Guess you're not using Primochill's rigid acrylic tubing, because you sure don't need anything like that, or need to file/sand anything other than cut it to length with their tube & fittings, and the cut doesn't even need to be all that straight or clean even and it works just fine. Plus with Primochill's compressions you have a few extra mm's of play you can adjust each tube a bit that you won't get when using push-fit fittings, and in my practice runs so far that has often (read: usually) been the difference between whether the piece I'm working on is perfect, or garbage.

The look of the Primo chill just didn't do it for me both in looks and variety of fitting types .....

16 90s
2 45s
2 Tees
disconnects
various pairs of rigitd extensions
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/19/13 at 9:35pm
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MNpctech has em or you can get em at your local hardware store.
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Amazon was outta stock.,...Home depot isn't and no mail smile.gif
The look of the Primo chill just didn't do it for me both in looks and variety of fitting types .....

16 90s
2 45s
2 Tees
disconnects
various pairs of rigitd extensions

The main selling point for me in going with acrylic was only needing the compression fittings. There's little to no need for any rotaries or 90s or 45s, etc when you can just bend the acrylic instead, and I really don't like the look of any of those fittings in any case.
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Amazon was outta stock.,...Home depot isn't and no mail smile.gif

Amazon has em in stock. The link i gave you was in stock. That was just a random one that i posted too. They have like 15 identical ones with different brand names. But if Home Depot has the same thing, I'd probly grab it there too. I'm personally waiting for the Monsoon Kits cuz i know i'm gonna end up grabbing one anyway for the Radius Benders and will never use the other Reamer again tongue.gif
    
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Here is my proposed mock-up of my WC layout. More details are in a thread that I will link, and I'd love any advice, opinions, reinforcement, and feedback on the questions I had as well, if anyone feels so inclined to help me out, since this is my first full custom loop. Here's the thread:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1444276/please-review-my-custom-loop-plan-and-help-me-get-this-thing-below-700

post #1436 of 18701
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

One thing that surprised me.....I dont like the circles look..... so I got the clean version. I didn't know it when I bought and I didn't realize it until 3 days after i assembled it but the is the ONLY EK block (at least for the Asus 780) of the 3 available that will fit in SLI in the Enthoo with the res bracket in place. Tho all are "full cover" ... only the clean fits. The other two are about an inch longer .... and the 2nd card in SLI when in the 4th and 5th slot 93 slot spacing) hit the slanted part on the res bracket.

Fits w/ res bracked - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21270/ex-blc-1529/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_Nickel.html

No Fit - http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21271/ex-blc-1530/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Acetal_Nickel_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_AcetalNickel.html

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21272/ex-blc-1531/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_Block_-_Nickel_CSQ_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_-_Nickel_Original_CSQ.html

Glad you pointed that out. I was going to get the longer clear one because I just thought it would look better covering the whole card and showing more coolant through the acrylic (they both still show coolant through, right?) even if the shorter one is still a "full cover" block. But since I very well might get another GTX 780, I'll probably get the short block. On the longer one, it appears that there are only holes for the fittings on the underside, so you'd need to use one of those SLI attachments that come off the side of the card and have holes on the top AND bottom if you wanted to run tubing out the top of the card (which you almost always would...). I feel like I must be missing something, though, because I don't know why they would design a block that only accepts fittings underneath. However, the shorter one that you got seems to have a black thing off the side of it that does the same thing as the acrylic SLI attachments (has 2 holes on top and 2 on bottom), right? Is it a removable piece in case you wanted to swap an acrylic one on here just for aesthetics?
post #1437 of 18701
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i went into detail on this some 20 pages back ... it;s a U shaped channel so it rubs on 3 sides.... and the fastening method results in varying pressure at every tab.

is had mine apart for 2 weeks.... still haven't thought of a way to muzzle.

You mean you bent the tabs open and took the plexi window out? I haven't looked at it closely, but maybe just coating the tabs in something rubberized, like Plastidip. And/or carefully applying something like packing tape to the plexi glass at it's contact points. Just throwing random ideas out there. Failing something simple, there's always just reattaching it a different way, or gluing it in place. I dunno, I'd need to look close to see what might work but it's seriously getting annoying that this thing creaks so much. I thought it would settle in and stop.
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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

MNpctech has em or you can get em at your local hardware store.

Home Depot smile.gif


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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

The main selling point for me in going with acrylic was only needing the compression fittings. There's little to no need for any rotaries or 90s or 45s, etc when you can just bend the acrylic instead, and I really don't like the look of any of those fittings in any case.

I bought a new heat gun, I bought the bending kit ....... but in the end, I felt I was compromising and losing "the straight lines look" that made me wanna do the build in the 1sdt place. Set those and the extra cost aside and went with what I liked and do what I really wanted..... Other reasons included

1. I liked the security of the double O-rings
2. I wanted to avoid the clutter of a bridge and my parallel block design is not possible w/o the tees
3. Didn't like the idea of a the twist on / twist off quick disconnect for the drain hanging out in space on a line that included any acrylic joints, now all metal.
4. Have a few tight spaces under HD cages @ pump that made bending an iffy proposition.
5. Fill / Bleed Ports are 30mm long..... All metal made it a lot easier.
6. I'm passing thru a drilled hole in the res bracket, down and thru the grommet behind it; close tolerances wuda been a bit challenging for fabrication of the bends, as well as assembly / disassembly.
7. The appeal of rotaries is not for the bends, you can buy 90 fittings that aren't rotary..... rotaries help in that they are multidirectional...after turning the 90 or the 45 in one plane they can be rotated in another.

The chamfering and deburring is prolly not absolutely necessary but Bitspower recommends it so as not to risk cutting or otherwise damaging an O-Ring


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Originally Posted by ADragg View Post

Glad you pointed that out. I was going to get the longer clear one because I just thought it would look better covering the whole card and showing more coolant through the acrylic (they both still show coolant through, right?) even if the shorter one is still a "full cover" block. But since I very well might get another GTX 780, I'll probably get the short block. On the longer one, it appears that there are only holes for the fittings on the underside, so you'd need to use one of those SLI attachments that come off the side of the card and have holes on the top AND bottom if you wanted to run tubing out the top of the card (which you almost always would...). I feel like I must be missing something, though, because I don't know why they would design a block that only accepts fittings underneath. However, the shorter one that you got seems to have a black thing off the side of it that does the same thing as the acrylic SLI attachments (has 2 holes on top and 2 on bottom), right? Is it a removable piece in case you wanted to swap an acrylic one on here just for aesthetics?

The amount of coolant shown is the same

The longer "clear one" has those ugly (to me anyway) circles.

You can connect top or bottom....the whole block is on the bottom of the card..... the connections are on the stubbed out black thing and each has two vertical holes ....you can come in from the top (and close the bottom) or visa versa....or one of each.

I have no SLI attachments .... you could do a bridge, the crystal link or pipe direct in parallel



In the image above, the acrylic part is identical to the "short one"..... the part with the circles is replaced with one with no circles. Now here's where they differ:

1. Like the acetal version of the "long one", the short one has the black extension .... the circle one, ya gotta buy more parts
2. The short one ends where the part with all the circles ends.... doesn't have the metal "tab" to the right. That mnetal tab might be called a "front plate, it covers but I don't think it is "touching" the card. If it did, I think there'd be sparks invoilved smile.gif


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You mean you bent the tabs open and took the plexi window out? I haven't looked at it closely, but maybe just coating the tabs in something rubberized, like Plastidip. And/or carefully applying something like packing tape to the plexi glass at it's contact points. Just throwing random ideas out there. Failing something simple, there's always just reattaching it a different way, or gluing it in place. I dunno, I'd need to look close to see what might work but it's seriously getting annoying that this thing creaks so much. I thought it would settle in and stop.

It's not the tabs making the noise ..... I pick it up and stare at it every once and a while ..... still haven't come up with anything. Problem is it's a U shaped tab in a U shaped Channel ..... well more like |_|

So it rubs on 3 sides and with thermal expansion / contraction its gets squeezed and rubs on / moves along multiple surfaces ..... if you were to apply a tape or "rubber paint", I was concerned the |_| plexi tab would no longer fit in the |_| shaped channel.


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Here is my proposed mock-up of my WC layout. More details are in a thread that I will link, and I'd love any advice, opinions, reinforcement, and feedback on the questions I had as well, if anyone feels so inclined to help me out, since this is my first full custom loop. Here's the thread:

Your loop is identical to mine except I'm in SLI, I used rigid and I slid the to rad forward.

If ya go that way, I wouldn't leave the top fill port open.....meybe one of these ?

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16784/ex-tub-1363/Aquacomputer_Pressure_Equalization_Membrane_G14_Thread_-_Tall_Version_53138.html

Think about sliding the 420 forward.....a pair of 30mm Bitspower extenders w/ plugs make convenient full and bleed ports and ya don't need a fabricated brace mount to hold the one in the front then. If ya stick w/ the front one tho, I have a design for a mounting plate I can send you as that was my originally planned route.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12340/ex-tub-777/Bitspower_G14_Male_to_Female_Extender_-_30mm_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C63.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10362/ex-tub-610/Bitspower_G14_Thread_Low_Profile_Stop_Plug_w_O-Ring_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C09.html


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Amazon has em in stock. The link i gave you was in stock. That was just a random one that i posted too. They have like 15 identical ones with different brand names. But if Home Depot has the same thing, I'd probly grab it there too. I'm personally waiting for the Monsoon Kits cuz i know i'm gonna end up grabbing one anyway for the Radius Benders and will never use the other Reamer again tongue.gif

The original OEM one buy Rothenberger (sp ?) that everyone else sells was outta stock when I looked...Home Deport was no shipping delay smile.gif
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/20/13 at 6:04am
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I've had my - still mostly empty except for the rads mounted - case sitting right next to me since I received it. I've not heard a single peep from it yet, even with it sitting where the sun through the window hits it for part of the day, but from what you all are describing the noise coming from the panel expanding/contracting it sounds like something that would probably go away with time.

It just reminds me of our Toyota Avalon when the car was brand new. The Mrs was really bothered by all the creaking and noises, including coming from the back window as it heated up which would make noises when the car wasn't even running (which is what reminds me of the complaints about the case panel). She was convinced we'd bought a lemon or something was wrong or not properly lubricated. It was everything I could do to keep her from taking it back to the dealer and throwing a fit and convince her it was all just because the machining tolerances were very tight and it all just needed to be broken in. It took a while, but we never did anything except deal with it, and now it's quieter than a mouse. All the noises went away so gradually we didn't really notice exactly when until one day my wife turned to me and said something to the effect of 'I hate to admit it, but you were right. All of those noises have just gone away all by themselves.' I knew it would quiet down eventually as I'd been through the exact same thing years previous when I bought a Toyota 4Runner it was super-creaky when it was new and I thought all the same things she did.
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I've had my - still mostly empty except for the rads mounted - case sitting right next to me since I received it. I've not heard a single peep from it yet, even with it sitting where the sun through the window hits it for part of the day, but from what you all are describing the noise coming from the panel expanding/contracting it sounds like something that would probably go away with time.

It just reminds me of our Toyota Avalon when the car was brand new. The Mrs was really bothered by all the creaking and noises, including coming from the back window as it heated up which would make noises when the car wasn't even running (which is what reminds me of the complaints about the case panel). She was convinced we'd bought a lemon or something was wrong or not properly lubricated. It was everything I could do to keep her from taking it back to the dealer and throwing a fit and convince her it was all just because the machining tolerances were very tight and it all just needed to be broken in. It took a while, but we never did anything except deal with it, and now it's quieter than a mouse. All the noises went away so gradually we didn't really notice exactly when until one day my wife turned to me and said something to the effect of 'I hate to admit it, but you were right. All of those noises have just gone away all by themselves.' I knew it would quiet down eventually as I'd been through the exact same thing years previous when I bought a Toyota 4Runner it was super-creaky when it was new and I thought all the same things she did.

When the wifey says you are right, that is an awesome feeling.

The review sample that I have, has no issues like the ones you guys have mentioned. There are no creaks or anything like that. Really happy with case, one of the best cases I have laid my hands on.
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