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Originally Posted by OneFunGenesis View Post

Quick positive pressure question though:

should I set up the front and top as intake and have the rear be the only exhaust? Or should I do rear and front intake, top exhaust? Top has 240mm rad and back has 120mm rad

Just re-posting this to get a quick answer as I am building tomorrow. Thanks smile.gif
You want a least equal vent area for intake versus exhaust, more exhaust area is better. With good intake fans there is no need for exhaust fans when exhaust vent area is 10-20% more than intake area.

With radiators things change because unless everything is water cooled it is best to have radiators as exhaust .. so they don't heat up the air being used by air cooled components and thereby increasing their operating temperature.

You have a a 120mm radiator and a 240mm radiator, so 3x 120mm fans exhaust. That is about the same flow as 3x 120mm front intakes or 2x 140mm front intakes. What fans are you planning to use on radiators and what ones for case? Ideally you want intakes to be moving a little more air than radiator fans so there is a little air leaking out of case's other holes. This will keep dust at a minimum.
post #14472 of 19122
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Front filter is removable. Pretty sure there are 4 clips, 2x on sides in about the middle and 1 each top and bottom. Just unclip the filter from them and take it out. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)




Yes, I know there are clips there. The side vents are what do not have clips. But blowing them out shouldn't be a problem really. Thanks!
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Originally Posted by Gabe1 View Post

Exhaust on the rads, intake on the front and bottom (E. pro)
Thank you. I dont have a bottom intake though frown.gif
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

You want a least equal vent area for intake versus exhaust, more exhaust area is better. With good intake fans there is no need for exhaust fans when exhaust vent area is 10-20% more than intake area.

With radiators things change because unless everything is water cooled it is best to have radiators as exhaust .. so they don't heat up the air being used by air cooled components and thereby increasing their operating temperature.

You have a a 120mm radiator and a 240mm radiator, so 3x 120mm fans exhaust. That is about the same flow as 3x 120mm front intakes or 2x 140mm front intakes. What fans are you planning to use on radiators and what ones for case? Ideally you want intakes to be moving a little more air than radiator fans so there is a little air leaking out of case's other holes. This will keep dust at a minimum.

This is the information I was looking for. CPU and graphics card is on water. The only thing that needs air cooling is the VRM and Chipset for my MOBO (the chipset actually gets hot on the one I bought...it is a known issue).

Radiator fans are NB E-Loop knock-offs (came with the radiators) and the intakes are 2 x 140mm Phanteks PH-F140XP. So hopefully that will create equal pressure?
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Yes, I know there are clips there. The side vents are what do not have clips. But blowing them out shouldn't be a problem really. Thanks!
Thank you. I dont have a bottom intake though frown.gif
This is the information I was looking for. CPU and graphics card is on water. The only thing that needs air cooling is the VRM and Chipset for my MOBO (the chipset actually gets hot on the one I bought...it is a known issue).

Radiator fans are NB E-Loop knock-offs (came with the radiators) and the intakes are 2 x 140mm Phanteks PH-F140XP. So hopefully that will create equal pressure?
It might. You can check the flow by using incense sticks or cigarette and watch to see if smoke moves away from vents and holes with no fans or is drawn in. You might find "Ways to Better Coolng link in my sig of interests. 1st post is index, click on topics to see them. I suggest starting with the 5th one. It give an overview of airflow basics.
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Thanks, I appreciate the response and the information. I have looked over that thread in the past but will revisit it now. I will also have to pick up some incense to track the flow. I understand how pressure works when there are all equal size fans as my current case has somewhere in the neighborhood of 13 fans creating a nice positive pressure but the game is changed with rads and different sized fans. I appreciate all of the help and will continue on with the build the way I planned it out smile.gif
post #14475 of 19122
I ordered a Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic. I can't wait for it to arrive and finally get a proper case! Too bad it only comes with one SSD bracket and they are pretty expensive. (22€) Oh well, I have double sided tape.
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post #14476 of 19122
They are like $9 in the states http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817987001&cm_re=phanteks_ssd_bracket-_-17-987-001-_-Product maybe find someone that can send one to you? 22 is crazy expensive for them
post #14477 of 19122
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I ordered a Phanteks Enthoo Pro M Acrylic. I can't wait for it to arrive and finally get a proper case! Too bad it only comes with one SSD bracket and they are pretty expensive. (22€) Oh well, I have double sided tape.

Don't know where you buy your parts from in Finland, but here I can buy them for €6,90.
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post #14478 of 19122
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They are like $9 in the states http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817987001&cm_re=phanteks_ssd_bracket-_-17-987-001-_-Product maybe find someone that can send one to you? 22 is crazy expensive for them
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Don't know where you buy your parts from in Finland, but here I can buy them for €6,90.
I usually order my parts from Jimm's PC store. I don't know why the price is so high. I found couple of places that sells them for around 10-11€, but they are out of stock right now. Phanteks stuff seems to be out of stock pretty much everywhere. I have to wait 5-10 days for the case, because they have to order more..
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post #14479 of 19122
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Originally Posted by Chiobe View Post

There is plenty of place in the Primo. 320mm reservoir, 60mm radiators with 25mm fans and still room for fittings. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

But for some reason, so wont a 130mm wide radiator fit (just placed in atm), even with the panel removed. The mid wall is too close to the fan mounting, so I need to be a bit creative till I can find a good radiator that fits properly (or several smaller once).

If you remove that grommet on the mid wall, it will get you a few more mm and should let you mount fans on top (if that was your problem).
post #14480 of 19122
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Originally Posted by Faster_is_better View Post

If you remove that grommet on the mid wall, it will get you a few more mm and should let you mount fans on top (if that was your problem).
That is not the problem. The fan mounting holes dont like up with radiator. Its 3-4mm off.
Also, with that radiator so cant I mount it right on the case, as the stop plugs prevent it (3mm from the case in 1 end).

I got it mounted for now, with zip ties. Its not the cleanest, but it will not look that bad when the window is on.
Also, that radiator wont go anywhere, unless the heat effects the zip ties.

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