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Originally Posted by Faster_is_better View Post

2x 480s have a lot of cooling potential, you will be just fine.
Without watercooling (radiators in bottom and/or top) the Primo looks empty, so it's just wasted space both inside and outside of the case (physical dimensions).

Surely you can get better airflow through a Luxe/Pro and still have plenty of room? Yes/no/maybe? @doyll I'm just guessing since Luxe/Pro are more compact their should be less turbulence and you can direct airflow better but maybe that doesn't matter if you cram in a ton of fans for the Primo...

I have to agree with you. The Primo with air cooling looks, well, pretty silly, actually. Mind you, it looks positively absurd with a CLC....

I've done builds in both the Primo and the Pro/Luxe, and the Pro/Luxe does not hurt for airflow in any way once you get that 200mm intake changed out. It's hard for me to compare the two since I only did liquid cooling in the Primo past the initial testing. For an aircooled build, I would go Luxe every time.
post #14902 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Faster_is_better View Post

Surely you can get better airflow through a Luxe/Pro and still have plenty of room? Yes/no/maybe? @doyll I'm just guessing since Luxe/Pro are more compact their should be less turbulence and you can direct airflow better but maybe that doesn't matter if you cram in a ton of fans for the Primo...
You are now treading on very think ice .. I can hear it cracking. tongue.gif
The misconceptions are clouding your understanding. Volume does not create turbulence, obstructions do.
Any time the airflow path is changed it creates turbulence.
The higher the air speed is, the smaller the obstruction need to be to case turbulence.

Or maybe I'm becoming too air-sensitive and misunderstanding:D your post.
post #14903 of 19148
Dear Phantexans,

I posted a question regarding the fansetup on a silent Phanteks Eclipse P400s,, which maybe would better fit in this topic. If some would be so kind to help a fellow out.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1609829/fansetup-phanteks-p400s#post_25469112

Thx.
post #14904 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo View Post

Dear Phantexans,

I posted a question regarding the fansetup on a silent Phanteks Eclipse P400s,, which maybe would better fit in this topic. If some would be so kind to help a fellow out.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1609829/fansetup-phanteks-p400s#post_25469112

Thx.
I don't have a P400 so have done not tested to see what will or won't supply cool air to the components. P400 is a budget model. While many of us have used the other cases and some of us have do quite a bit of experimenting with them, few of us have much interest in the P400.

I have used Nonoxia and Fractal design 'quiet' cases with and without sound dampening. My experience is sound dampened cases are not much if any quieter than same case without dampening. Panels (baffles) in front of fans and low restriction airflow, quiet components and good fans setup with automatic temp to speed control to match component fan demands and optimize airflow so components have cool air flowing to them while their heated exhaust flows outs out of case is what give us the best cooling and sound profile. You might find "Ways to Better Cooling link in my sig of interest. 1st post is index, click on topic to see it. 5th is a good place to start.
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

I have to agree with you. The Primo with air cooling looks, well, pretty silly, actually. Mind you, it looks positively absurd with a CLC....

I've done builds in both the Primo and the Pro/Luxe, and the Pro/Luxe does not hurt for airflow in any way once you get that 200mm intake changed out. It's hard for me to compare the two since I only did liquid cooling in the Primo past the initial testing. For an aircooled build, I would go Luxe every time.
I have to agree with you too .. or is that you two too. tongue.gif
Edited by doyll - 8/26/16 at 11:35am
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You have done it now. How dare you post well-reasoned thoughts as to why I should not get the massive case I never needed (but definitely wanted) and instead go for the practical option? mad.gif

On a serious note, many thanks for all the replies. I think I will go with the Luxe. One last thing, I will be using an oversized motherboard (X99-e WS). Looking at the Luxe it seems I will lose some of the cable management space, would that be an issue for a first time builder?

Many thanks to you all.
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Originally Posted by vaoqeRG View Post

You have done it now. How dare you post well-reasoned thoughts as to why I should not get the massive case I never needed (but definitely wanted) and instead go for the practical option? mad.gif

On a serious note, many thanks for all the replies. I think I will go with the Luxe. One last thing, I will be using an oversized motherboard (X99-e WS). Looking at the Luxe it seems I will lose some of the cable management space, would that be an issue for a first time builder?

Many thanks to you all.
Luxe has as much cable management as Pro. They are the same case with different front and top covers. tongue.gif
And they have plenty of cable management space. Some peeps get braided cable extensions in their choice of color and still get them all hidden.
post #14907 of 19148
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I don't have a P400 so have done not tested to see what will or won't supply cool air to the components. P400 is a budget model. While many of us have used the other cases and some of us have do quite a bit of experimenting with them, few of us have much interest in the P400.

I have used Nonoxia and Fractal design 'quiet' cases with and without sound dampening. My experience is sound dampened cases are not much if any quieter than same case without dampening. Panels (baffles) in front of fans and low restriction airflow, quiet components and good fans setup with automatic temp to speed control to match component fan demands and optimize airflow so components have cool air flowing to them while their heated exhaust flows outs out of case is what give us the best cooling and sound profile. You might find "Ways to Better Cooling link in my sig of interest. 1st post is index, click on topic to see it. 5th is a good place to start.
I have to agree with you too .. or is that you two too. tongue.gif

Thank you for the links and your post, but both will probably not help me choose how to setup or control the fanspeeds in Phanteks cases. My future rig is probably quite similar to yours or anyone else who owns a Phanteks case. Your Phanteks cases probably had a Phanteks fancontroller that can control 3p fans with a PWM signal from the mobo (google said it did not work well, minimal of 10V or something), where afaik the Eclipse p400s has a knob (3 settings, high-mid-low) on top of the case. Although slightly different, you did have quite similar choices that I have today :

Choice A : 4p fans on PWM connector mobo;
Choice B : 3p fans to the Phanteks fancontroller;
Choice C : A mix of 3p, 4p and whatever.

All I want is a silent case like most people. If the 2 fansetups of Be-quiet (3p) and Scythe (4p) that i have selected have the same properties regarding maximum noiselevel and flow, is it wise to go for 3p fansetup from Be-Quiet (40 euro in total) and use the fancontroller from Phanteks to control my 5 fans. Or should i go for a 4p fansetup from Scythe (also 40 euro), all controlled by the mobo. My mobo has 3 pwm connections for casefans.

Edit: English is not my native language, apologies.
Edited by Scoobydoobydoo - 8/26/16 at 12:09pm
post #14908 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Scoobydoobydoo View Post

Thank you for the links and your post, but both will probably not help me choose how to setup or control the fanspeeds in Phanteks cases. My future rig is probably quite similar to yours or anyone else who owns a Phanteks case. Your Phanteks cases probably had a Phanteks fancontroller that can control 3p fans with a PWM signal from the mobo (google said it did not work well, minimal of 10V or something), where afaik the Eclipse p400s has a knob (3 settings, high-mid-low) on top of the case. Although slightly different, you did have quite similar choices that I have today :
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Do you think that because someone owns a Ford, their Ford is similar to all other Fords? I own a 65' Ford half ton pickup with a 6 cylinder engine. I have a buddy who owns a new GT 40. They have very little in common and neither do our cases. The same thing applies to what is in them; my pickup hasn't got anything in it like the GT 40 does. Again, they have little in common, and neither do our case components.

I'm sorry, but I don't know how you should setup your system.
post #14909 of 19148
$ 0.02
While your MB might have 3 PWM headers, the question is if you are able to set 3 different fan profiles (one per header) or do they all link back to CPU temp?

For sake of simplicity... having ALL fans controlled by ONE controller/splitter is in most cases the best way to go...
When your CPU gets hotter.. ALL case fans ramp up, and if you have correctly set up (balanced) your intake & exhaust fans that is all there is to it.
Unless you are doyll and have half of your fans controlled by the GPU iso the CPU biggrin.gif

In most cases the Phanteks PWM-TO-Voltage fanhub is all you need.
post #14910 of 19148
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Originally Posted by Stein619 View Post

look what came today smile.gif I don't know why it's only sold on the one place but the enthoo pro m tempered glass edition exists and it looks awesome. I can't wait to build me first system in it 🖒

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Originally Posted by OneFunGenesis View Post

Well, I guess I'm calling phanteks and seeing if I can get a TG side panel for my case. The acrylic is just too soft

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Originally Posted by springs113 View Post

i guess i will too but for info on the elite as there's nothing out there that entices me other than the primo but looks like it'll still limit me with what i want to really do, and since I've done basically splurged on this build why not go all the way out. If only the evolv atc tg edition could fit at least 3 360 rads.

Please update if and when you guys get a response back!
 
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