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Just built my first water cooled machine into an Evolv ATX TG. Overall, I found that the quality of the case was a little lacking, but it looks amazing when it's all put together.




Please head over to my build thread for pictures and a mini-review:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1610831/1st-timer-build-log-phanteks-evolv-atx
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Originally Posted by kriz225 View Post

Another one joins the fold smile.gif

Just built my first water cooled machine into an Evolv ATX TG. Overall, I found that the quality of the case was a little lacking, but it looks amazing when it's all put together.




Please head over to my build thread for pictures and a mini-review:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1610831/1st-timer-build-log-phanteks-evolv-atx

Can you share why? Most builders have said exactly the opposite about the case. I have used just about every case around, and find the Evolv ATX to be one of the best in terms of build quality, construction, materials and design.
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Anyone use plastic dip on the interiors of these cases? Have a white evolv matx and thinking of painting the interiors white to match the exterior.
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post #15384 of 19221
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Originally Posted by lazyalam View Post

How do y'all mount tube reservoirs on the enthoo evolv. Trying to do a straight mount on the hard drive Bay section but would much prefer to avoid drilling holes in my $250 cdn case.
Hot glue gun? biggrin.gif
http://www.instructables.com/id/Easily-Remove-Dried-Hot-Glue-aka-Hot-Melt/

Or Velcro tape with glue backing that dissolves with alcohol. Test to be sure it works first.

Any glue that dissolves with alcohol is save to use becasue it can be cleaned off without damaging the case paint finish. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 10/5/16 at 3:52am
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Can you share why? Most builders have said exactly the opposite about the case. I have used just about every case around, and find the Evolv ATX to be one of the best in terms of build quality, construction, materials and design.

Yeah, I saw a lot of blogs, posts and reviews calling out quality as a major point. I was pretty surprised when I started taking the case panels off.

I think the reason for the discrepancy is that the aluminum panels are just awesome. When the case is put together, it looks and feels absolutely top notch.

My complaints about quality stem from a few things you notice when you take those panels off. For one, the frame has a pretty significant amount of flex. The front LED is held together with a zip tie. The top board wiring, for the I/O and power button, is routed through a hole that must've been great for the normal edition, but on the TG, with the glass side panels, makes the wiring really obvious and ugly. There's another hole just above it, but Phanteks seems to have dropped the glass panels into the case without really taking a good look at revising anything else.

I had to remove one of the plastic locks that hold the front panel in place and use light force to get the cabling through the hole I mention. It works and looks much better (can barely see those cables), but taking that clip out and putting it back in was a major pain.

Also, the serial number was in a big, ugly white sticker on the back, right above an equally big white sticker saying "made in China." I appreciate putting the serial number in an easy to find place, but they could've done something more subtle. Not that I expect to have a warranty issue with a case, but if I did, I'm sure I'd be SOL now that I've removed the only identification on it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the case. It's by far the best looking case I've ever owned, and it was nice to work in. But, seriously, a zip tie?? confused.gif
Edited by kriz225 - 10/5/16 at 6:37am
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Originally Posted by redshoulder View Post

Anyone use plastic dip on the interiors of these cases? Have a white evolv matx and thinking of painting the interiors white to match the exterior.

Should be no problem at all. I plasti dipped the exterior of my Evolv ATX first black, and then Chameleon Blue Green -



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Yeah, I saw a lot of blogs, posts and reviews calling out quality as a major point. I was pretty surprised when I started taking the case panels off.

I think the reason for the discrepancy is that the aluminum panels are just awesome. When the case is put together, it looks and feels absolutely top notch.
My complaints about quality stem from a few things you notice when you take those panels off. For one, the frame has a pretty significant amount of flex. The front LED is held together with a zip tie. The top board wiring, for the I/O and power button, is routed through a hole that must've been great for the normal edition, but on the TG, with the glass side panels, makes the wiring really obvious and ugly. There's another hole just above it, but Phanteks seems to have dropped the glass panels into the case without really taking a good look at revising anything else.

I had to remove one of the plastic locks that hold the front panel in place and use light force to get the cabling through the hole I mention. It works and looks much better (can barely see those cables), but taking that clip out and putting it back in was a major pain.

Also, the serial number was in a big, ugly white sticker on the back, right above an equally big white sticker saying "made in China." I appreciate putting the serial number in an easy to find place, but they could've done something more subtle. Not that I expect to have a warranty issue with a case, but if I did, I'm sure I'd be SOL now that I've removed the only identification on it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the case. It's by far the best looking case I've ever owned, and it was nice to work in. But, seriously, a zip tie?? confused.gif

There is room for improvement on the case and I agree. As a reviewer I will say that sometimes we get tunnel vision, and those who know me, also know that I'm a "bit" partial to Phanteks cases. With that said, I think what you bring up are great points about the case that for me non issues and as reviewers we should bring those things up more often.

On the flex, I will say that the Evolv has a lot less flex when compared to some other more expensive cases out there. My biggest disappointment was the lack of a swing open side panels on the TG edition, but I understand why they went with the mount they did (easy to implement, and helps keep the cost at a decent level (must have Vs nice to have).

Anyways, you have a great looking build. Is that the regular Hero or the Hero Alpha board?
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Originally Posted by kriz225 View Post

Yeah, I saw a lot of blogs, posts and reviews calling out quality as a major point. I was pretty surprised when I started taking the case panels off.

I think the reason for the discrepancy is that the aluminum panels are just awesome. When the case is put together, it looks and feels absolutely top notch.

My complaints about quality stem from a few things you notice when you take those panels off. For one, the frame has a pretty significant amount of flex. The front LED is held together with a zip tie. The top board wiring, for the I/O and power button, is routed through a hole that must've been great for the normal edition, but on the TG, with the glass side panels, makes the wiring really obvious and ugly. There's another hole just above it, but Phanteks seems to have dropped the glass panels into the case without really taking a good look at revising anything else.

I had to remove one of the plastic locks that hold the front panel in place and use light force to get the cabling through the hole I mention. It works and looks much better (can barely see those cables), but taking that clip out and putting it back in was a major pain.

Also, the serial number was in a big, ugly white sticker on the back, right above an equally big white sticker saying "made in China." I appreciate putting the serial number in an easy to find place, but they could've done something more subtle. Not that I expect to have a warranty issue with a case, but if I did, I'm sure I'd be SOL now that I've removed the only identification on it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the case. It's by far the best looking case I've ever owned, and it was nice to work in. But, seriously, a zip tie?? confused.gif

I see where you are coming from. The zip tie was done to make the LED change as easy as possible for the user, but I agree that there should have been a better solution.

I don't agree with you about the chassis quality. It is as solid as any NZXT,/Corsair/etc, probably more so, and uses a minimum of plastic. The design is similar to that of a car uni-body, where the panels are part of the support structure. It actually makes perfect sense in keeping weight down without sacrificing rigidity. It's not as solid as a Silverstone, but it is also a lot more user friendly and has far more component flexibility. There is always going to be give and take, and Phanteks chose wisely in this regard.
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I see where you are coming from. The zip tie was done to make the LED change as easy as possible for the user, but I agree that there should have been a better solution.

I don't agree with you about the chassis quality. It is as solid as any NZXT,/Corsair/etc, probably more so, and uses a minimum of plastic. The design is similar to that of a car uni-body, where the panels are part of the support structure. It actually makes perfect sense in keeping weight down without sacrificing rigidity. It's not as solid as a Silverstone, but it is also a lot more user friendly and has far more component flexibility. There is always going to be give and take, and Phanteks chose wisely in this regard.

Mmmmmm uni bodies.... Love me some Mopar B-bodies biggrin.gif
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Originally Posted by kriz225 View Post

Yeah, I saw a lot of blogs, posts and reviews calling out quality as a major point. I was pretty surprised when I started taking the case panels off.

I think the reason for the discrepancy is that the aluminum panels are just awesome. When the case is put together, it looks and feels absolutely top notch.

My complaints about quality stem from a few things you notice when you take those panels off. For one, the frame has a pretty significant amount of flex. The front LED is held together with a zip tie. The top board wiring, for the I/O and power button, is routed through a hole that must've been great for the normal edition, but on the TG, with the glass side panels, makes the wiring really obvious and ugly. There's another hole just above it, but Phanteks seems to have dropped the glass panels into the case without really taking a good look at revising anything else.

I had to remove one of the plastic locks that hold the front panel in place and use light force to get the cabling through the hole I mention. It works and looks much better (can barely see those cables), but taking that clip out and putting it back in was a major pain.

Also, the serial number was in a big, ugly white sticker on the back, right above an equally big white sticker saying "made in China." I appreciate putting the serial number in an easy to find place, but they could've done something more subtle. Not that I expect to have a warranty issue with a case, but if I did, I'm sure I'd be SOL now that I've removed the only identification on it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the case. It's by far the best looking case I've ever owned, and it was nice to work in. But, seriously, a zip tie?? confused.gif
I understand your complaints, but like jassilamba and ciarlatano said Panteks quality is better than most, especially for the price. I prefer Phanteks cases to others I have used, including Nanoxia, Corsair Thermaltake, etc. .. even Fractal Design and Lian Lii are not any better. Phanteks case features and quality are definitely better than others not just in same price range but also better than many in higher price ranges as well.

I go through a lot of csses . like 6 or more a year. To date I have not found one I couldn't find many things to complain about. Like jassilamba if don't point out all of the problems I notice and only the more significant ones .. simple bessuse I can find faults with almost anything put in front of me .. from not designing symmetrical side panel mounting so panels can be used on either side to not designing. front tip-to-open socket access so it can be turned over for easy access when setting under desk or on desk.

It's just too easy to find faults in something and blame the designers and fabricators for not doing a good job. I've worked in R&D and regardless of how well designed and constructed something is, there are always thing that could be better. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 10/5/16 at 8:38am
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Originally Posted by kriz225 View Post

Yeah, I saw a lot of blogs, posts and reviews calling out quality as a major point. I was pretty surprised when I started taking the case panels off.

I think the reason for the discrepancy is that the aluminum panels are just awesome. When the case is put together, it looks and feels absolutely top notch.

My complaints about quality stem from a few things you notice when you take those panels off. For one, the frame has a pretty significant amount of flex. The front LED is held together with a zip tie. The top board wiring, for the I/O and power button, is routed through a hole that must've been great for the normal edition, but on the TG, with the glass side panels, makes the wiring really obvious and ugly. There's another hole just above it, but Phanteks seems to have dropped the glass panels into the case without really taking a good look at revising anything else.

I had to remove one of the plastic locks that hold the front panel in place and use light force to get the cabling through the hole I mention. It works and looks much better (can barely see those cables), but taking that clip out and putting it back in was a major pain.

Also, the serial number was in a big, ugly white sticker on the back, right above an equally big white sticker saying "made in China." I appreciate putting the serial number in an easy to find place, but they could've done something more subtle. Not that I expect to have a warranty issue with a case, but if I did, I'm sure I'd be SOL now that I've removed the only identification on it.

Don't get me wrong, I love the case. It's by far the best looking case I've ever owned, and it was nice to work in. But, seriously, a zip tie?? confused.gif

Overall, I agree... but I don't see anyone else at the >$200 price bracket doing any better. IMO, wiring issues can be solved by good cable management. The serial number could have been put on the bottom.

The only substantive issue I have come across is my glass panels do not perfectly align with the case and as a result a small amount of dust gets through and adheres to the glass (over time). Easily fixed with some electrical tape, but still kinda annoying. It is possible this was cause due to chassis flex, but I can't say for certain.

One positive point I don't see thrown around on the Evolv is that it does a great job of not transmitting vibrations. HDDs, pumps, etc. everything is padded. The case doesn't have any "loose bits" either that can sometimes be a PIA to fix. My R4 didn't have this and it drove me nuts (EDIT: Clarification, it had dampening for HDDs but the cage itself rattled b/c the drives were not snug).
Edited by paskowitz - 10/5/16 at 1:39pm
    
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