Originally Posted by jassilamba
There is room for improvement on the case and I agree. As a reviewer I will say that sometimes we get tunnel vision, and those who know me, also know that I'm a "bit" partial to Phanteks cases. With that said, I think what you bring up are great points about the case that for me non issues and as reviewers we should bring those things up more often.
On the flex, I will say that the Evolv has a lot less flex when compared to some other more expensive cases out there. My biggest disappointment was the lack of a swing open side panels on the TG edition, but I understand why they went with the mount they did (easy to implement, and helps keep the cost at a decent level (must have Vs nice to have).
Anyways, you have a great looking build. Is that the regular Hero or the Hero Alpha board?
I agree. Perspective is important. For instance, I've never had swing open side panels. So, while they certainly sound nice, it's not something I miss.
I don't want anyone getting the wrong impression. Again, I love the case. Little things like just how good the power button feels when I turn the machine on will continue to make me feel good about it long after I've forgotten the invisible zip tie. I was just trying to point out a few things that I did not see anywhere when I did my research on the case. They're not deal breakers for me, but they were surprises. I'd rather people who might find them to be deal breakers don't find out when they pull the thing out of the box.
It's the regular Hero. Last time I paid for a top of the line motherboard from Asus I regretted it. It was a great board, but I never used half of it. I was originally going for the Ranger, but Newegg had no stock when I was ready to pull the trigger.
Originally Posted by ciarlatano
I see where you are coming from. The zip tie was done to make the LED change as easy as possible for the user, but I agree that there should have been a better solution.
I don't agree with you about the chassis quality. It is as solid as any NZXT,/Corsair/etc, probably more so, and uses a minimum of plastic. The design is similar to that of a car uni-body, where the panels are part of the support structure. It actually makes perfect sense in keeping weight down without sacrificing rigidity. It's not as solid as a Silverstone, but it is also a lot more user friendly and has far more component flexibility. There is always going to be give and take, and Phanteks chose wisely in this regard.
To each their own, I suppose. I'm coming from a CoolerMaster HAFX. The thing is chuck full of plastic, so comparing it to this is hardly apples to apples. I'd never argue that, when fully put together, the Evolv ATX feels less quality than the HAFX. I would argue that the HAFX felt more solid. Not a huge deal, really. Just surprised me, is all. Not much of a price difference between what I paid for the Phanteks now and what I paid for the HAFX when I got it. Of course, the Phanteks is nearly all metal, and has glass panels. Apples and oranges
I don't think your unibody analogy really works here. None of the panels on the case are load-bearing, and none of them are welded or otherwise permanently attached. That said, when fully put together the case does feel solid.
Originally Posted by doyll
I understand your complaints, but like jassilamba and ciarlatano said Panteks quality is better than most, especially for the price. I prefer Phanteks cases to others I have used, including Nanoxia, Corsair Thermaltake, etc. .. even Fractal Design and Lian Lii are not any better. Phanteks case features and quality are definitely better than others not just in same price range but also better than many in higher price ranges as well.
I go through a lot of csses . like 6 or more a year. To date I have not found one I couldn't find many things to complain about. Like jassilamba if don't point out all of the problems I notice and only the more significant ones .. simple bessuse I can find faults with almost anything put in front of me .. from not designing symmetrical side panel mounting so panels can be used on either side to not designing. front tip-to-open socket access so it can be turned over for easy access when setting under desk or on desk.
It's just too easy to find faults in something and blame the designers and fabricators for not doing a good job. I've worked in R&D and regardless of how well designed and constructed something is, there are always thing that could be better.
Just because everything has faults doesn't mean we should simply ignore them. I like the case. I'd honestly say it's the best case I've ever used, though that's not out of many. I've worked on 4 or 5 cases ever. There were just a few things I disliked about it, and I felt like all the positives about it were already out there for everyone to see.
I also didn't mention the "flow" issue that's been discussed many times on this thread before. Because, again, it's already been covered. I used some sound dampening material as others have and it seems to be working great.
Originally Posted by doyll
Good point! the thumbscrew mounting panel screws keep vibration down too. R5 is another one of the better cases in it's price range too.
We need to keep in mind that $1-2 dollars more in in design and manufacturing is like $20 more to end user.
I'd say this is the best value for money case I've ever bought. Easy. That said, running the cabling through the upper hole and moving the serial number label to a new location would've cost Phanteks $0.
Originally Posted by paskowitz
For me its that screw organizer box. I was like... "Oh, that's nice. And to think I put up with baggies." Even the less consequential things like the SSD trays having padded mounts. They didn't have
to do that... but they did.
Not gonna lie, I smiled ear-to-ear when I saw the screw box. That was a really, really nice touch. Also putting the board with the power button and LED on the case, and not on the top panel, is a very thoughtful detail.
Case definitely has a lot going for it. For sure!