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Hmm so I am thinking of doing a Moded Watercooled case with this guy, not sure i should do it, how is this over the 900D or even modding my FT02...
 
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post #1542 of 19369
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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

One pump is all you need. If you every saw my review build I just had 1 pump running everything.

That alpha cool is a great pump to and should be all you need.

Gpu blocks are very low restriction so you should be good.

Keep it simple.

Thanks for the reply then i will skip the second pump saving money is always good biggrin.gif
post #1543 of 19369
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

No....no way for air to escape.

As for replacement top .....





Make sure ya get the extenders for any connections to top side..... EK had a 17mm recessed hole..... Bitspower fitting knurls are 18mm

The 2 holes on flat vertical surface won't need em but any exterior fittings on the top round horizontal surface will. Interior aquatube has no knurl.

G1/4 Fitting Extender - Bitspower G 1/4" Thread Fitting Extender - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C40) - ex-tub-700$2.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10371/ex-tub-618/Bitspower_G_14_Thread_Fitting_Extender_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C40.html?tl=c101s1354b145#options
Ok ya saw the parts for the fixed part .... parts list for rest is

-Quick-Disconnect for Drain - Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Female w/ G1/4 Thread (BP-MBQDFG14) - ex-tub-1635$23.50http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17965/ex-tub-1635/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Female_w_G14_Thread_BP-MBQDFG14.html

-F x F Extender - Bitspower G1/4 Female to Female Extender - 30mm - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C74) - ex-tub-953 - $7.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/13555/ex-tub-953/Bitspower_G14_Female_to_Female_Extender_-_30mm_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C74.html?tl=c101s1354b145&id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=2463

-G1/4" x Compression Connector (Male)-Bitspower G1/4 Thread 3/8" ID x 1/2" OD Rotary Compression Fitting - Matte Black (BP-MBRCPF-CC2) - ex-tub-700$13.99http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11107/ex-tub-700/Bitspower_G14_Thread_38_ID_x_12_OD_Rotary_Compression_Fitting_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBRCPF-CC2.html?tl=c409s1032b145

- Tubing-Tygon 2475 Ultra Chemical Resistant Plasticizer Free Tubing - 3/8" ID (1/2" OD) - Clear (ACG00027) - ex-tub-663$2.75
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10691/ex-tub-663/Tygon_2475_Ultra_Chemical_Resistant_Plasticizer_Free_Tubing_-_38_ID_12_OD_-_Clear_ACG00027.html
Nope ... measured it w/ a caliper....fits purrfect....there are shorter extensions if ya worried .... 10mm - 50mm

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c101/s1354/list/p1/b145/Bitspower_International_Co_Ltd-Fittings-Accessories-Fitting_Extenders-Page1.html?id=4NiLmkLB&mv_pc=2303
The determining factor is GFX card length .... if card is less than 10.6, I'd say you good.
What's in the loop ? Don't See any rads ?

What I did was take out lower 3.5" HD cage and put pump there...... Pump => Lower rad (top inside port) => parallel feed GPU loop => Top Rad (Bot Outsider port) => CPU Top Port => MoBo Bottom Port => Reservor => Pump

Man, that's an expensive drain port setup! tongue.gif All in all, that's probably $50-75+

Slick setup, though.

Still not sure if I'll go with the EK res and the optional top with extra ports, or if I'll just get a Bitspower for about half the price and have all the ports I need without needing to purchase the res, extra top, fitting extenders, aqua tube, etc (as I would need to do with the EK res). Thinking I will just go with the Bitspower in full clear (no black caps).

Also, I'm not sure if your pump would have mounted to the included mount anyway, but if the reason you didn't use the included pump mount was because of the placement and/or the low height, I figured out another way/place to mount the included pump bracket. When you remove the bottom drive cage (as I know you did since you wanted your pump down in that area just like I do), it slides off a bracket that's mounted below it at the bottom of the case. Then you'd normally unscrew it and leave it aside with the drive cage. However, it has some holes in it and it turns out the pump bracket (which is removable) can be screwed onto the lower drive cage bracket. I'm not sure if this was an intended design or a coincidence that the holes are the exact correct spacing, but you can securely mount the pump bracket there. There are actually several holes along it, so you can position the bracket (and therefore the pump) in several places (meaning from side to side. Either closer to the windowed side of the case or more towards the opposite side). This puts the pump in the perfect spot down there (especially if you have a tube res on the res bracket and a lower radiator as your first component after the pump) and also brings the pump an inch or so higher off the floor of the case.
Edited by ADragg - 11/25/13 at 2:08am
post #1544 of 19369
Has anyone figured out a way to mount a Photon w/o drilling yet?

And can anyone tell me an explicit reason to NOT get a drive bay res? I can't fit a tube without drilling into the case. Buying tools and ruining my case doesn't seem worth it simply because I don't trust myself. I'd still be running a separate pump to avoid the noise issue and to have cleaner runs
Edited by Hooy - 11/25/13 at 5:05am
post #1545 of 19369
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Originally Posted by Hooy View Post

Has anyone figured out a way to mount a Photon w/o drilling yet?

And can anyone tell me an explicit reason to NOT get a drive bay res? I can't fit a tube without drilling into the case. Buying tools and ruining my case doesn't seem worth it simply because I don't trust myself. I'd still be running a separate pump to avoid the noise issue and to have cleaner runs

When you brought it up before Jesse (from themodzoo) already replied that he's used 3M 4010 double sided tape to mount a photon in a case before.



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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

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Originally Posted by Hooy View Post

How do you guys feel about velcro/double sided tape mounting a Photon 170 or 270 to the right of the motherboard grommets with the res bracket removed? I would really like a Photon but it can't be mounted anywhere but there unless I wanted to sacrifice a cleaner tube run and my EVGA SLI bridge... I'm also not keen on drilling holes in the case or chopping up the res bracket.

Use the tape of the gods - http://mnpctech.com/case-mods-gaming-pc-liquid-modding-custom-computer-mnpctech-overclock-cooling-fan-grills/3m-4010-tape.html

I have a photon 240 installed in a Dell XPS case, and those cases are heavier than anything (all solid thick aluminum construction). I can lift the whole case by just grabbing the reservoir.

That said, I'm pretty sure you could just as well use some of the industrial-strength velcro too ...

http://www.lowes.com/ProductDisplay?partNumber=20018-388-90197

^ That stuff is not you're everyday run-o-the-mill velcro. I've seen it used to mount monitors/TVs to the wall. Put a decent-sized piece on the back and it will hold a res no problem.

Whichever you use, just make sure you clean off both mounting surfaces with a bit of rubbing alcohol to make sure they are free from oils to give you maximum adhesion and you should be fine.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 11/25/13 at 6:50am
post #1546 of 19369
I'm pretty sure that "industrial strength" adhesive or velcro is just as permanent as just drilling 4 small holes, though. Why not go ahead and mount it the most secure way? If you ever decide to change reservoirs, there's either the frontplate to completely cover it up, or you can insert small black screws through the holes for a "finished" look (even though the screws serve only an aesthetic purpose). That's what I did with the 9 pre-drilled holes I wasn't using.

p.s. Jack, I was right --- my gtx 770 in slot 5 w/ xspc block did NOT fit with the reservoir mount installed. So I took a dremel to it (actually, I took a very thick drill bit to it rather than spend another $80 on yet another single-use tool. Finished it off with some tightly wrapped and precisely cut electrical tape (to soften the edge) and it's good as new, since you can't see that edge anyway).
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 11/25/13 at 7:49am
post #1547 of 19369
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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

I'm pretty sure that "industrial strength" adhesive or velcro is just as permanent as just drilling 4 small holes, though. Why not go ahead and mount it the most secure way? [...]

I would strongly agree with this, but Hooy did mention that he'd have to buy the tools and didn't comfortable drilling holes and risk 'ruining' the case. In that case it probably isn't worth the added expense of buying the tools if you don't already have access to them, and especially not if you wouldn't feel comfortable using them. A couple misplaced holes would indeed be a problem best avoided.

The res bracket does come off easy enough though. so perhaps taking the bracket and photon mounting plate over to someone else who does have tools and knows what they are doing with them might be an option. If not, then I don't see why using the double-sided tape or velcro wouldn't be a decent alternative.

Truth-be-told, I'd already considered, and still haven't totally ruled out, using that industrial-strength velcro to mount my Photon 270 res / D5 pump combo, not because I'm leery or unprepared to drill a few holes, but because I do feel comfortable that it would hold, and because I suspect it would add some level of decoupling from pump vibrations to the case, and might actually be the quieter/better option than drilling & screwing it in place.


On another note, now that I have my long-awaited RIVBE motherboard and my Lampton CW611 fan controller finally arrived after taking just shy of three weeks to get here thanks to a train derailment acc'd to UPS tracking (thankfully it seems to have arrived undamaged), I'm almost there with everything I need to start putting this thing together. All I'm lacking is the CPU & Ram. I just placed my order for the 4930k, and I'm just going to borrow 8GB of memory from another computer temporarily so I can go ahead and get it going while I still save a few more weeks for a 64GB quad channel set of 2400 ram.

It's been a loong time gathering everything piece-by-piece, week-by-week. My OWMBO doesn't let me break out a credit card for my expensive hobbies, nor is she keen to let me spend my base pay on any of it either unless I can convince her otherwise, but we do have a long-standing agreement that unless we're facing some out of the ordinary expenses I can pretty much do whatever I want with my overtime / bonus pay, so I generally put in 12 hrs over every week that they'll let me, and these last few months I've been putting in a little more than that here and there. I'll be sooo glad to finally get this thing going so I can take a bit of a break.
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Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 11/25/13 at 8:50am
post #1548 of 19369
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Originally Posted by shiv15 View Post

Has anyone mounted a d5 on the provided bracket for a pump on the backside of the case? I am looking to use the EK res, mounted to the back to the chassis and going straight down through the provided opening. I would prefer to not use any king of angled fitting to inlet into the d5 and I want the outlet side to be pointed to the front of the case.

If you are planning on doing what I think you are wanting to do, then yes, it works out almost perfect. You have to mount your res directly to the main motherboard backplane (i.e. not on the res bracket). The the tubing passes directly through the circular grommet to the D5 pump mount below
post #1549 of 19369
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Originally Posted by Hereisphilly View Post

If you are planning on doing what I think you are wanting to do, then yes, it works out almost perfect. You have to mount your res directly to the main motherboard backplane (i.e. not on the res bracket). The the tubing passes directly through the circular grommet to the D5 pump mount below

Is the inlet on the top like that? I thought it was on the other side, where what looks to be your outlet side. I may just end up using my mcp355 in that same location, as the inlet/outlet mount where I need them right now. Which brand pump are you using?

But yes you had the right idea which I was trying to convey.

My thoughts are to go straight from the pump over to a 240 mounted on the side bracket, with the ports are the bottom into a 90* fitting. It's a tight fit, but I think I can work something out.
post #1550 of 19369
My xspc D5 is mounted on the bracket. I bought the XSPC pump top in hopes it would help keep it quiet, but honestly I am a bit disappointed. The pump is the loudest thing in my case right now. The circular grommet I dont use actually. The outlet (top) of mine goes to the top 360 radiator which I wish I had redone, I can't use the side 140mm fans now because the tubing is in the way. Intake for the pump is a swiftech micro res.


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