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post #15401 of 19205
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thanks !
I try to determine what will be the best for my loop in my lovely case.
I started a thread about it here : http://www.overclock.net/t/1612994/help-which-way-to-mount-my-rad#post_25564918
And people tell me that it's better to go all rad as intake.
When going full loop on both CPU and GPU it is usually not possible to have all radiators as intakes. The key is to have as much exhaust vent / airflow area as intake. If you do not, the lower exhaust flow rate limits the intake flow.
Reason is simple; what comes in must go out / what comes out must first go in.
If we have a 6" intake and a 3" exhaust, the 3" exhaust limits how much air flows through.
If we have a 3" intake and a 6" exhaust, the 3" intake limits how much air flows through.
post #15402 of 19205
So with a front 240 rad and a top 240 rad, front as intake, top as exhaust, fan at the same speed (phanteks hub) what to do with the rear fan ? Mount it as intake to supply fresh air to the top and also have positive pressure ? Or just drop it to have intake = exhaust ?
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So with a front 240 rad and a top 240 rad, front as intake, top as exhaust, fan at the same speed (phanteks hub) what to do with the rear fan ? Mount it as intake to supply fresh air to the top and also have positive pressure ? Or just drop it to have intake = exhaust ?
Try it both ways. I would think intake with filter would be best. 5th post in "Ways to Better Cooling" link in my sig. about case airflow. I have Evolv ATX on air so quite different, but I think the Evolv mATX has similar problem with top radiator needing all unused holes in mounting plate blocked to keep airflow from circling around and back down into case rather than out the vents.
If the top radiator plate looks like the one in lower section of this image, do as instructed
http://www.overclock.net/t/1418637/official-case-phanteks-case-club-for-lovers-owners/13700_20#post_25268315
post #15404 of 19205
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Originally Posted by KaptainK View Post

thanks !
I try to determine what will be the best for my loop in my lovely case.
I started a thread about it here : http://www.overclock.net/t/1612994/help-which-way-to-mount-my-rad#post_25564918
And people tell me that it's better to go all rad as intake.

That's because none of those people have ever worked with an Evolv ATX. They are completely generalizing.
post #15405 of 19205
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Try it both ways. I would think intake with filter would be best. 5th post in "Ways to Better Cooling" link in my sig. about case airflow. I have Evolv ATX on air so quite different, but I think the Evolv mATX has similar problem with top radiator needing all unused holes in mounting plate blocked to keep airflow from circling around and back down into case rather than out the vents.
If the top radiator plate looks like the one in lower section of this image, do as instructed
http://www.overclock.net/t/1418637/official-case-phanteks-case-club-for-lovers-owners/13700_20#post_25268315

No removable bracket but general design is same


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Time is money, and while it may not take much more time to do the cable and serial number sticker changes, it does take some. It also means changing the assembly line procedure .. and changes often create their own problems in assembly lines. Running cables through holes takes more time than using a zip-tie .. and may require moving case to do it .. more movement means more chances of damage. Case is setting on assembly line ready for boxing and serial number label is put on case and it's box. To put labels on back of case and box is quick. Putting label on bottom means moving case .. whichi takes more time and also increases the chance of possible case damage. Bottom line is the more efficient the assembly line is the lower the cost of assembly .. and lower cost to end user.

I'll say one last thing, and leave this discussion at that. It's starting to feel like this is turning into an argument, which was never my intent.

I'm super happy with this case. It was great to work with. Roomier than my much bigger HAF X, thanks to the lack of a drive cage. Very thoughtfully designed to be water cooling friendly, which was a huge plus for me. The aluminum panels are fantastic. Coupled with the glass... this is case looks so good I just want to lick it tongue.gif

I was just surprised by a couple of things that, to me - as a somewhat average system builder who only builds a new PC when he needs one and hasn't gone through a thousand cases - were a bit disappointing considering what I paid for the case.

I'd never even heard of Phanteks until I went to build this rig. I read nothing but positive stuff, and was really taken back by the classy, restrained look of the P400S. For the price, that case seemed like a winner. Had I gone with that one, and had these same complaints, I would've sucked it up. That case costs half of what the Evolv ATX TG costs. Alas, the P400S wasn't going to be roomy enough for what I wound up doing, and the Evolv ATX TG looked even better.

For $200, they could've put the sticker on the top of the frame, under the top cover. Easy to get to, not visible under normal conditions. Problem solved. If you're going to sit there and tell me that not doing that somehow would've saved me money, then I think you're just making excuses.

I'm not trying to talk anyone down from getting this case. Hell, I can't recommend it enough. I just wanted to point out a few things that surprised me, which I hadn't read or heard about anywhere. That's all.
post #15407 of 19205
I was looking at these yesterday and a alternative case, not so sure yet.

It's lay out is pretty good leaning towards what I am looking for but a few thing lack or leave concerns. I do want full window/s if possible. I have 5 drives at the moment, so my mobo is filled so I need to make sure I can get those in or get brackets to add them. I do prefer a top venting that i can access to clean. Other then that I think this brand could work for me.

Price wise these cases are low cost compare to others higher price units.
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post #15408 of 19205
Thought I would share what I have been working on lately..... This is just the very beginning, and there is a lot more work to come. Will create a build log once the build is done..




And if anyone wants to be creative, give a try to Plasti Dip enhancer finishes - Blue Green (still wet in the pic, bad idea coating it outside in fall as leaves damaged the finish and I had to take peel it off) -

post #15409 of 19205
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Try it both ways. I would think intake with filter would be best. 5th post in "Ways to Better Cooling" link in my sig. about case airflow. I have Evolv ATX on air so quite different, but I think the Evolv mATX has similar problem with top radiator needing all unused holes in mounting plate blocked to keep airflow from circling around and back down into case rather than out the vents.
If the top radiator plate looks like the one in lower section of this image, do as instructed
http://www.overclock.net/t/1418637/official-case-phanteks-case-club-for-lovers-owners/13700_20#post_25268315
I have already planned to make something to obstruct the passage with cardboard
I'd tried both ways, but this is the first time I make a loop and I would like to do it right on the first try and not have to mess afterwards.
post #15410 of 19205
There is plenty of space to re-orientate the rear fan after loop is built.
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