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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Well, with 8% off from FrozenCPU and free shipping, I just couldn't resist.

Now to look over those LED links and pick up some white (or orange if I can find them) strips. Then I think I might convert my "Muzzle Flash" over to this case when I switch from flexible tubing to rigid acrylic tubing.

Glad to be a part of the group.
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Nice!

I put mine on a castor base so it's easier to move and also increases airflow to bottom fans. There is only about 90sq cm of vent to bottom fans. Castor base raises case 42mm and add 350sq cm of area for airflow to bottom fans. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Just got another base under my Primo biggrin.gif



I'm quite pleased with it. wink.gif
post #1632 of 18658
Nothing exotic or terribly interesting with my build, so I haven't bothered with pics. Because I went with the Asus Z87 Hero, I had to buy a new Phanteks TC14E cooler in red, plus additional red cables and alternated red with white. My computing "habits" haven't changed much from the late 1990s but Flight Sim X screams with a nVidea 770 from EVGA. I'm planning on a 780 TI when the more customized cards come out (hoping, too, for more than 3GB VRAM). Eventually I'm going to install a Swiftech H320 Kit for my first attempt with watercooling. THEN I might post some pics. In the meantime, I couldn't be happier with my rig.
post #1633 of 18658
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Well, with 8% off from FrozenCPU and free shipping, I just couldn't resist.

Now to look over those LED links and pick up some white (or orange if I can find them) strips. Then I think I might convert my "Muzzle Flash" over to this case when I switch from flexible tubing to rigid acrylic tubing.

Glad to be a part of the group.

Welcome aboard knucklehead ! (rarely to I get to say that w/o insulting someone smile.gif

There's a dimensional drawing in Post # 1000 ..... if ya need to see what fits where...... will be adding the flow diagram and parts list shortly. (need to edit w/ the last minute items).

Give a yell if ya need anything.

BTW, I had a helluva time finding LED's with a black tape (less likely to catch a glimpse of then the white) ...... searched all over and found them on Amazon ..... 5 m roll for $11 .... came from China, free delivery (took 11 days)


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Originally Posted by rpjkw11 View Post

Nothing exotic or terribly interesting with my build, so I haven't bothered with pics. Because I went with the Asus Z87 Hero, I had to buy a new Phanteks TC14E cooler in red, plus additional red cables and alternated red with white. My computing "habits" haven't changed much from the late 1990s but Flight Sim X screams with a nVidea 770 from EVGA. I'm planning on a 780 TI when the more customized cards come out (hoping, too, for more than 3GB VRAM). Eventually I'm going to install a Swiftech H320 Kit for my first attempt with watercooling. THEN I might post some pics. In the meantime, I couldn't be happier with my rig.

Gratz ... as above yell if ya need "what fits" assistance ....

Are you gonna play with the new Flight Sim ? My son is a pilot and he's all excited about it. From the folks who made IL-2 Sturmovik (sp ?)

http://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/168-developer-diary/#entry41404
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/28/13 at 7:52am
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post #1634 of 18658
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Welcome aboard knucklehead ! (rarely to I get to say that w/o insulting someone smile.gif

There's a dimensional drawing in Post # 1000 ..... if ya need to see what fits where...... will be adding the flow diagram and parts list shortly. (need to edit w/ the last minute items).

Give a yell if ya need anything.

BTW, I had a helluva time finding LED's with a black tape (less likely to catch a glimpse of then the white) ...... searched all over and found them on Amazon ..... 5 m roll for $11 .... came from China, free delivery (took 11 days)

Many thanks!

I'm sure I will be calling on everyone (as well as combing through the thread) as time goes on.

Guess it's time I start a new build log for this ... [Build Log] Muzzle Flash II: The Sniper
post #1635 of 18658
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Originally Posted by rpjkw11 View Post

Nothing exotic or terribly interesting with my build, so I haven't bothered with pics. Because I went with the Asus Z87 Hero, I had to buy a new Phanteks TC14E cooler in red, plus additional red cables and alternated red with white. My computing "habits" haven't changed much from the late 1990s but Flight Sim X screams with a nVidea 770 from EVGA. I'm planning on a 780 TI when the more customized cards come out (hoping, too, for more than 3GB VRAM). Eventually I'm going to install a Swiftech H320 Kit for my first attempt with watercooling. THEN I might post some pics. In the meantime, I couldn't be happier with my rig.
Please post some of it now. Sounds very nice.
Mine will be air cooled too.. with a black TC14PE.
post #1636 of 18658
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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

That is the key, with positive pressure chances of you getting air in from all those gaps is very low. Perfect example is the back of the case, which if you think about is all ventilated with just one fan. WIth air being blown in from all directions in the case, the rear will not suck in any dust. That is still not an excuse to not clean inside the case regularly lol.

phanteks_enthoo_primo_full_tower_case_review55+%25281%2529.jpg


Question about your drawing (and this case in particular).

From what I'm reading, it doesn't appear that I will be able to put an XSPC RX360 60mm radiator with "push/pull" fans up top and have it not hit my GA-Z77Z-UP7 motherboard. I rant into no amount of issues with trying to cram that into my Switch 810 case, and ended up taking a grinder to the case to finally shoe-horn it in. If this isn't the case here (and I hope I can just put an RX360 in "push/pull" in this case), what are your thoughts about just doing push on the RX360?

According to your drawing, you are sucking cool air in from the top, pushing it through the radiator, and dumping it INSIDE the case. I've always tried to avoid this. Do you think it will be a major issue? Or should I just get a 45mm 360 radiator and go "push/pull" up to and have the air blow out the top?

Thanks for any input.
post #1637 of 18658
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Question about your drawing (and this case in particular).

From what I'm reading, it doesn't appear that I will be able to put an XSPC RX360 60mm radiator with "push/pull" fans up top and have it not hit my GA-Z77Z-UP7 motherboard. I rant into no amount of issues with trying to cram that into my Switch 810 case, and ended up taking a grinder to the case to finally shoe-horn it in. If this isn't the case here (and I hope I can just put an RX360 in "push/pull" in this case), what are your thoughts about just doing push on the RX360?

According to your drawing, you are sucking cool air in from the top, pushing it through the radiator, and dumping it INSIDE the case. I've always tried to avoid this. Do you think it will be a major issue? Or should I just get a 45mm 360 radiator and go "push/pull" up to and have the air blow out the top?

Thanks for any input.

There's 70mm of space from the top of the mobo to the top of the case, and roughly ~54mm of offset from the mobo with 120-series rads (240, 360, 480) so unless you have something on your mobo near the top that's taller than ~50mm it's possible to put a 60mm or even an 80mm thick rad in push/pull even if you were so inclined but a monsta in push pull would overhang the top 35mm of the mobo.

If you do have anything on your mobo taller than ~50mm then you would need to go with a 45mm thick rad in push pull.

Here's a repost of a recent similar discussion that you may find helpful.
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

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Guys what is the maximum thickness of rad i can put at the top of the case in push pull, Triple 360mm?

Short answer: A 45mm thick 120-series rad like a 360 or 480 in push-pull with 25mm thick fans will extend down to even with the top of a mobo, but also will be ~54mm offset from the mobo so as long as you don't have anything taller than ~54mm on your mobo, like heatsinks or ram, etc, it's possible that you can get away with an even thicker rad, a 60mm or an 80mm thick monsta even, if you don't mind the rad & fans overhanging the mobo.

Rather than reinvent the wheel, here's a more extensive recent reply to someone else where I'm referencing a 480 rad, but all the same clearance issues also apply to a 360 rad too except a 360 won't affect the front 5.25" drive bays like a 480 might.
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

I have a 480 XT45 in the roof in push-pull.

There is 70 mm of clearance from the top of the mobo to the inside top of the case, so an Xt45 with push fan (45mm + 25mm) comes just even with the top of the mobo. A 45mm thick rad with 25mm push fan will fit perfect with any motherboard because 120mm-series rad/fan mounts are also offset by ~54 mm (140mm series fans/rads are offset by ~44mm).

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

With that offset, as long as you don't have anything on your mobo taller than ~54mm, you can run even thicker rads in push pull.

Do note that you will pretty much lose the use of your top 5.25" bay with a 45mm 480 with push fans.

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FYI, most of these type questions have been answered by Jesse (jassilamba) over at themodzoo in the FAQs accompanying his review:

http://themodzoo.com/forum/index.php?/page/articles.html/_/reviews/cases/phanteks-enthoo-primo-full-tower-review-r67?pg=8


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What is the max clearance for a radiator installed in the top panel?

- The case has a clearance of 70mm for mounting a radiator in the roof. The mounts are offset by ~54mm so installing a 60mm (120mm series) radiator in push pull should not be an issue. As long as you do not have anything taller than 53mm on the motherboard (including ram), you can even install a 480mm monsta radiator in push pull. The X79 Dark, and G-Skill ram CAN be used with a monsta rad in push pull
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Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 11/28/13 at 6:53pm
post #1638 of 18658
I have an XT45x420 in the top with fans mounted above and a UT60x 280 mounted in the bottom at the moment, both pushing air into the case. All fans are blowing into the case so as to use the cooler air from outside the case rather than the warm air from inside the case to cool the rads.

Plan was I would add the "pull" fans when Phanteks started selling the additional PCBs. But now that I have it running .... I don't see the need.

Running every stress test I can thro at it.... and after just dropping teh fan speeds way down .... I can't get the water over 34C (was 31C with fan speeds at 1000 rpm) ..... CPU is at 4.6 GHz, typically topping out at 75C under RoG Real Bench and under Furmark, GFX card temps are like 40C after 30 minutes... my pump rpm under PWM is about 50% - 65% ....rad fans are at 750 - 850 rpm ... I have both case sides open and can't hear a thing with front fans less than 15 inches from my left ear. Ambient is 21.8C .... so I'm seeing a delta T of 10C at 1000 rpm and and 13C at 750ish

So that should answer ya push / only question ....

As for fit ....I went with the XT45 cause I thought it would be too close to call....I posted some pics many many pages back of the wider UT60-280 / XT45-420 in place....sure I can dig up again. It wud have fit in push / pull but just by 2 mm or so with the M6F.....dunno about your board.....but the M6F has a huge heatsink ..... look at Jesse's pics also (he put in both 140 and 120mm wides so ya can compare) .....access to ya 8 pin EPS cable may be an issue




the right side of the fan under that rad would miss the heat sink by about 2mm

Just bumped up fan speed to 1100 and here's what I am seeing....

Pump => UT60x280 Rad In (31.4C) => Rad Out (30.4C) => 780s in SLI Parallel Loop WBs => XT45 Rad In (32.7C) => Rad Out (31.6C) => CPU WB => Res => Pump

I can hear the fans tho....GFX (32% OC = 1175 Core / 1227 Boost / 7524 mem) at 39C and CPU (4.6 Ghz) at 38C ....

EDIT: While I was typing this was playing with fan speeds.... setting it up to give me 10C (out of 2nd rad) under Furmark at about 940 rpm it looks like... Ambient = 21.3 last rad out = 31.3 ..... 39C on GFX and CPU
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/28/13 at 7:43pm
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post #1639 of 18658
You're running a 420 which is a 140-series rad though Jack which has 10mm less offset than the 360 rad that 47 Knucklehead is wanting to fit, so your clearance issues & pictures and such don't really apply.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 11/28/13 at 7:07pm
post #1640 of 18658
Well that was really where I wanted to go I shuda made it clearer ........if the M6F fits with the extra 10mm width .... he shud be pretty safe with almost anything.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 11/28/13 at 7:44pm
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