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Just got my case this weekend smile.gif Fantastic so far, updated from an Antec 1200. Love the build quality and attention to detail; my wiring is much cleaner in this case and I haven't had a case this tool less before.
Only issue I've had is the PWM not working, but I suspect that's just because my motherboard doesn't support it. I was thinking it would still at least power my fans as a central hub but I may be mistaken there.

Are you running the fan hub from your mobo's CPU_FAN header? A lot of (read: most) mobos don't have true PWM control over all of the 4 pin headers on the board.
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Personally, I'm going with the Photon 170 but I'm not putting it on the bracket. Just recently in the thread there was talk of using industrial strength velcro to mount a res wherever you want without having to worry about drilling up your case. I'd look into that if I were you.

The photon screw holes actually don't align to the res bracket's, so I ghetto mounted it with industrial grade double sided tape. Don't stuff up though, I had to grab a hairdryer and heat the stuff majorly so I get the res off LOL.
    
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I've finished my build, except the tube I got actually looks god awful. I wanted that MSI Lightning yellow colour, instead the tube is like a green/yellow UV tube. I Mohr just get black tube as that will look nice. Not sure now...
    
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post #1724 of 18688
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FYI,

For anyone who might be using or planned on using the Swiftech 8-way PWM splitter - and I suspect the same will hold true for (m)any other PWM splitters like it - there is a very interesting conversation going on with a Swiftech rep (BramSLI1) over in the 'water cooling club' thread over issues with it related to various different models of PWM fans ...




See, it's things like that right there ^, and add to it the whole issue with mobos in the first place where almost all of them only the CPU_FAN & CPU_OPT headers are even really PWM at all, is why I still steer clear of ALL PWM devices so far. They look to be the future, and are fine for a CPU fan or two in an air-cooled rig, but not for larger scale implementation imho, at least not until all the bugs like this get worked out.

Give me the old tried and true 3 pin fans and a fan controller all-day, every day, over all the problems associated with PWM right now. Makes me really glad I got a Lamptron CW611 instead of even trying out the fan hub that came with the case (especially after seeing the issues Jack I think it was is having with it).

I guess if I did want to have PWM fans on every rad, the only way to go right now would be with an Aquaero 6, but that's going to set you back a pretty penny.

Hmmm, I have 6 Corsair SP120 High Performance fans plugged into the Swiftech splitter and have encountered no such problem, it works as advertised, if maybe a little below max rpm (which, as I understand, is to be expected when connecting multiple fans to a single mobo header)

The Swiftech fan hub, on the other hand, acts a bit janky - but I haven't yet determined whether it may be due to bios/software settings more than the Phanteks hardware itself.
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 12/3/13 at 8:00am
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Guys.. I'm a proud owner of this case however just noticed out of the box there a hair line scratch vertically where the blue led is ? I only noticed this after peeling off the protective plastic wrapper that was pasted to it. Couldn't have been dragged to get that scratch. ... so wondering if it's normal ?
post #1726 of 18688
Just ordered a second D5 off a member here. Not exactly sure yet how I want to do my loop, but I have the xspc tank res, dual bay res, and the xspc performance pump top to use for 2 pumps. Thinking I will keep the one pump on the bottom with the performance top and use the dual bay res. Bottom pump will feed the top bay res/pump. Swiftech micro res will feed the bottom pump. Any suggestions?
post #1727 of 18688
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

Are you running the fan hub from your mobo's CPU_FAN header? A lot of (read: most) mobos don't have true PWM control over all of the 4 pin headers on the board.

I was not. I moved the CPU fan to a 4pin chas fan connector and hooked up the hub to my cpu fan header. All works like a charm now, thanks! thumb.gif
post #1728 of 18688
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Hey Jack, I see you were lucky enough to get one of the EK backplates for the Asus GTX 780 before they went out of stock everywhere (or at least the two places I ordered my parts from, which were FrozenCPU and Performance PC's). I'm not sure exactly how the water block works (I got the same "short" EK block you have), but does it still utilize the stock backplate? And is the aftermarket EK one something you could put on later without removing the block from the card and draining the loop etc? I want to add the EK backplate when they're in stock but I don't want to have to drain the entire system to do it. I was hoping it's something you can just install carefully while the card is still inside the chassis hooked up. But it won't be too much of a priority as long as I can still use the stock backplate to cover the PCB. I do want that EK one to Plastidip white, though, because I have white tubing and white EK res, etc. smile.gif

Well, all my parts are in the mail! I was able to get 9% off at Frozen CPU, which saved me almost about $70 smile.gif Had to get the UT60 280mm, EK Supremacy CPU block, and EK reservoir down tube from Performance PC's, though. As well as fans from Newegg. I hope I didn't forget anything that I'll need...

as long as you get the backplate for the same brand as the GPU, you can install them easily. I know the EK back plates for the 780/Titan are the same, and can be installed without draining the loop or even removing the card from the case.
post #1729 of 18688
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Can we see a picture of it?

Guys do you think it would be possible to mount a rad to the front of the case or will there be absolutely no airflow?

I'll check tonight to see if I took a picture of the dremel'ed edge before I installed everything (you really can't see it now, it's hidden behind the reservoir). I literally just dremel'ed the notched section of the reservoir mount to come down about an inch lower, it wasn't hard at all. I will admit, though, it's not the 'cleanest' mod in the world (I'm far from an 'expert' metalworker lol), but like I said, you can't see it at all.

You could mount a 240 rad in the front, but there's a designated mounting spot for a 240 rad on the side that makes it unnecessary to do so (I don't think you could do both, they would conflict with each other)
Thanks for the info! I know that it could fit a 240 at the front but I was thinking about something along the lines of a 360 or 420.
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Which tube res would you guys recommend that is compatible with the bracket? I was looking at getting the photon 170 or 270, but from what I've been able to find I can't use the bracket for those unless I drill my own holes. (I'd rather not at this point.)

Photon's mounting requires drilling and may eliminate 10.5" long GFX cards from consideration .... if it makes it, it will be by the proverbial hair.

Any 60mm fits .... you'll have like 2-3mm between the res and the GFX cards and like 10mm between the res and the back of 5.25" bays.

I can tell ya for sure that the EK Res 3

a. Fits with the above clearances
b. Lines up with the predrileld holes
c. Ya won't need the nuts as hole in bracket are threaded.

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Give me the old tried and true 3 pin fans and a fan controller all-day, every day, over all the problems associated with PWM right now. Makes me really glad I got a Lamptron CW611 instead of even trying out the fan hub that came with the case (especially after seeing the issues Jack I think it was is having with it).

It is kinda odd the that I'm having the problem with the phantks fans the PCB. Kinda goes back ti the crypic note stickied to the fan feed lone saying don't pug it in unless ya need to .... define "need".

Does that mean ya shouldn't plug it in cause then it will run at full speed ?

Or maybe that's why we haven't seen it out yet as an accessory ? Cause it don't work with other than Phanteks (although that is what I'm using) like Swiftech found out ?


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Hey Jack, I see you were lucky enough to get one of the EK backplates for the Asus GTX 780 before they went out of stock everywhere (or at least the two places I ordered my parts from, which were FrozenCPU and Performance PC's). I'm not sure exactly how the water block works (I got the same "short" EK block you have), but does it still utilize the stock backplate? And is the aftermarket EK one something you could put on later without removing the block from the card and draining the loop etc? I want to add the EK backplate when they're in stock but I don't want to have to drain the entire system to do it. I was hoping it's something you can just install carefully while the card is still inside the chassis hooked up. But it won't be too much of a priority as long as I can still use the stock backplate to cover the PCB. I do want that EK one to Plastidip white, though, because I have white tubing and white EK res, etc. smile.gif

Well, all my parts are in the mail! I was able to get 9% off at Frozen CPU, which saved me almost about $70 smile.gif Had to get the UT60 280mm, EK Supremacy CPU block, and EK reservoir down tube from Performance PC's, though. As well as fans from Newegg. I hope I didn't forget anything that I'll need...

Guilty as charged smile.gif

When nVidia announced their new deal and price reduction, I ordered 1 of the last 2 Frozen WB's FCPU had in stock and the backplate ..... when I confirmed fit, I asked them to put the 2nd one on the side for me to pick up as I'd be in town a week later..... they were outta stock on the backplates but order came in the day before I visited.

As to installation..... look at the instructions for the WB install.... you have to put like 10 or 12 screws in ..... if ya use the backplate, then only the 4 around the GPU go in....the rest all come from the backplate kit .... so no.....you might be able to install the block and then doing the BP as a later add on, but it doesn't sound easy ....certainly not if in SLI.

Also keep in mind ya have to buy 2 nuts (M3) at the hardware store cause EK does not provide these fasteners for the end ones .....on the "'short side" of the block.

But it is in orderable ..... that's same message I git when I placed the order on Thursday but when I arrived on Tuesday it was there.

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21273/ex-blc-1532/EK_ASUS_GeForce_780_GTX_DCII_VGA_Liquid_Cooling_RAM_Backplate_-_Black_CSQ_EK-FC780_GTX_DCII_Backplate_-_Black.html

As for the dipping, keep in mind that the backplate provided cooling....thermal pads go between the plate and the card..... EF recommends spreading TIM on the pads...... Id recommend using Gelid Extreme and their spatula ..... for the big pads, I spread it on the pad, then paid it on the card ..... then spread it on the raised backplate spot where they'd touch and again spread it thin with the spatula.

NOTE: The Gelid is very workable when tube 1st opened but gets thick and pasty very fast.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/3/13 at 1:45pm
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