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post #1781 of 18669
Enthoo Primo guts. Shaved off a few pounds from the case's weight.


Dat room...



The good thing about this case is that you can disassemble everything with a screw driver.
Well not all...

Damn rivets...
post #1782 of 18669
What are you going to do with it torn down like that?
post #1783 of 18669
Got a question for u guys. I am thinking of getting on of these cases. But I have 9 3.5 HDD's and 4 2.5 SSD's and no idea where to mount all these drives.
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Got a question for u guys. I am thinking of getting on of these cases. But I have 9 3.5 HDD's and 4 2.5 SSD's and no idea where to mount all these drives.

this, the rest of the drives will fit nativly
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I find the 120mm per device rule of them a bit weak at the high end .... at least "in theory" ..... after all a 290x overclocked (estimated 350 watts balls to the wall) is a lot different than a 660 ....

back in the 500s message number there's a summary of all Martins numbers .... I'll use the UT60 as a middle ground thickness in the example....

A UT60 @ 1,000 rpm gets you 50 watts of cooling with one fan and 61 watts in push / pull
A UT60 @ 1,250 rpm gets you 63 watts of cooling with one fan and 76 watts in push / pull
A UT60 @ 1,400 rpm gets you 70 watts of cooling with one fan and 85 watts in push / pull
A UT60 @ 1,800 rpm gets you 90 watts of cooling with one fan and 108 watts in push / pull

So that single 290x is gonna want 360 worth or Rad just for itself.

Of course martins tests are based on just the rad .... even the rad shroud radiation is excluded......plus all ya components radiate heat

Here's how I calculated my rig .....

4770k - 145
MoBo Chipset - 20
MoBo VRMs - 20
GTX 780 - 289
GTX 780 - 289
Pump - 36

Watts - 799

Then I said ....well I'm not stress testing all the time, and all the other components in the case radiate heat .... so let's shoot for 2/3 of that since 1250 rpm is all I wanna put up with worse case......so 66% of 799 or 533 watts is what I aimed for .... At 1250 rpm, the ST45-420 and UT60-280 gave me 508 watts in push pull.....420 right now with just one fan.....

what I can't understand tho was, at full stress test (RoG Real Bench, I top out at 75C on the CPU..... and under Furmark 40C on the GPUs.... the air was 21.2C and water temps 31.2 .... I lowered the fan profiles and now I'm hitting 45C on Furmark, RoG Real Bench hasn't changed ..... seems to be running hotter still than before

My son is playing War Thunder right now and CPU's 1st 4 cores are 51-60C and 2nd four are 40-46C .... GPU1 is at 98% and 39C, GPU2 is at 20% and 31C ...ambient air is 23.6C and 1st rad is 33.7 / 33.0 in / out and 2nd is 33.0 / 32.1 ...... highest I been able to get the water temp to is 38C under Furmark.

So yes, if ya "do the math" and plan to test ya rig with "stress testing", the rules of thumb go out the window...... if ya doing high end and overclocking and don't wanna go over 1250 rpm .... I'm thinking two 120s for each component.....at 1800 rpm, the rule of thumb seems to work well.

I have 5 x 140 which is just under the equivalent of 6 x 120 and I'm looking to grab just a bit more.


Question .... just how much louder are the Phanteks fans in push / pull than they are in just push ? Anyone have a way of just shutting one side off and seeing how temps and noise are affected ? I'm finding going from inaudible at 900 rpm to 1200 rpm and noisy just has very little affect on temps.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/5/13 at 8:59pm
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post #1786 of 18669
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Originally Posted by ACE2K8 View Post

Got a question for u guys. I am thinking of getting on of these cases. But I have 9 3.5 HDD's and 4 2.5 SSD's and no idea where to mount all these drives.

Ya can fit four 2.5" drives in the provided SSD holders.

Ya can fit six 3.5" drives in the provude dtwin HD cages.

Ya can mount 3 HD's in wo 5.25" bays using one of the bugegrs Roxy pointed to.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/5/13 at 10:13pm
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Got my performance-pcs and fcpu orders today. I only spent about 3x my budget....



I got some stuff test fitted and hopefully I'll find an hour or two to clean the rads and leak test it all this weekend. Yeeehaw!
Edited by pchangover - 12/5/13 at 8:39pm
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soooo.... i was thinking of maybe getting this case. it looks amazing in every way except i hear there are problems with the cheap plastic parts.  how big of an issue are those parts in general?

 

i want to wc in this the system in my sig (might upgrade mobo) with 2 480 monsta's ;p for overkill... just overkill and silence with really low rpm gt ap-14's

 

also what is the tallest tube res you can put in there? i want to use the bitspower upgrade kit with it too

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soooo.... i was thinking of maybe getting this case. it looks amazing in every way except i hear there are problems with the cheap plastic parts.  how big of an issue are those parts in general?

i want to wc in this the system in my sig (might upgrade mobo) with 2 480 monsta's ;p for overkill... just overkill and silence with really low rpm gt ap-14's

also what is the tallest tube res you can put in there? i want to use the bitspower upgrade kit with it too

Haven't run into any 'cheap plastic parts"

1. The case ships at about 45 pounds and I think some frustrated UPS workers are behaving badly.

2. The two plastic "clickety thingies that hold the top and front panels on via press in / press out need some work.... I'm thinking that about half of them are damaged by users who, like me, shuda read the manual more thoroughly ..... I pressed in, apparently not hard enuff and then wiggled it back and forth till it popped maybe damaging it myself.... not sure what happened.


Suggestions.....

1. Inspect the box before carrier leaves.

2. If damaged, open it while he / she is still there.

3. Read the manual with regard to removal of parts...... press clickety things, never pull.

4. Remove dust filter sand don't put back in yntil build completed.

5. When pulling off panels and those plastic pop rivet type thingies.... I attack the removal from both sides..... pinching the rivets together from one side while pulling the panel from the other works well.
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soooo.... i was thinking of maybe getting this case. it looks amazing in every way except i hear there are problems with the cheap plastic parts.  how big of an issue are those parts in general?

i want to wc in this the system in my sig (might upgrade mobo) with 2 480 monsta's ;p for overkill... just overkill and silence with really low rpm gt ap-14's

also what is the tallest tube res you can put in there? i want to use the bitspower upgrade kit with it too

Haven't run into any 'cheap plastic parts"

1. The case ships at about 45 pounds and I think some frustrated UPS workers are behaving badly.

2. The two plastic "clickety thingies that hold the top and front panels on via press in / press out need some work.... I'm thinking that about half of them are damaged by users who, like me, shuda read the manual more thoroughly ..... I pressed in, apparently not hard enuff and then wiggled it back and forth till it popped maybe damaging it myself.... not sure what happened.


Suggestions.....

1. Inspect the box before carrier leaves.

2. If damaged, open it while he / she is still there.

3. Read the manual with regard to removal of parts...... press clickety things, never pull.

4. Remove dust filter sand don't put back in yntil build completed.

5. When pulling off panels and those plastic pop rivet type thingies.... I attack the removal from both sides..... pinching the rivets together from one side while pulling the panel from the other works well.

ok, so the plastic parts are just the clippy thingies and the rest is metal?  the ups guy will have a hell of a time getting the case to my house ;p but thats just more fun for me 

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