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Originally Posted by shiv15 View Post

I can't decide how to direct the fans on the bottom 480. I originally planned on intake but I didn't give much thought to the corsair sp120 fans facing down. The rings are appealing to me and I was thinking of exhausting the bottom rad instead.

Other fans include :
1x 120 front intake
2x 120 back side on a 240mm rad intake
1x 120 exhaust on back
6x 140mm on top 420 rad in taking.

Will I be okay if the bottom 8 fans exhaust out the bottom versus intake?

Well, you'll have to wrestle the logic battle between "hot air rises" and you exhausting in the other direction. Then again, that's the same wrestling match ya have with the top rad pulling air in.


I have noticed a rise in temps with just putting on the side panel for "the plumbing (left) side" of the build..... right side still a bird's best of wires so that's not on. I have the two front fans blowing in, the rear blowing out .... and two on the right side blowing out (yes in the panel that's unmounted) .... It's about 3C warmer inside the case even at idle.

I can see I have a battle going on with the two rad fans blowing in and air wanting to escape thru the bottom grille once case is all sealed up.....

5 rad fans blowing in
2 front fans blowing in
2 side fans blowing out
1 rear fan blowing out is 7 to 3.

Thinking of switching to ....

2 Bottom rad fans blowing in
2 Front fans blowing in
1 5.25 bay fan blowing in

2 side fans blowing out
1 rear fan blowing out
3 Top rad Fans blowing out

Wondering if any of the following is doable / beneficial

1. I can mount extra intake fans on case bottom .... shuda looked before I put all this crap in it smile.gif
2. Adding two pull fans on bottom rad ...leaving top alone
3. Adding external fans.... looks like I can get one over expansion slots and one on rear where alt PSU wud exhaust.
4. Doubling up on 5.25 bay fan .... requires opening door
5. Reversing side fans
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Well, you'll have to wrestle the logic battle between "hot air rises" and you exhausting in the other direction. Then again, that's the same wrestling match ya have with the top rad pulling air in.


I have noticed a rise in temps with just putting on the side panel for "the plumbing (left) side" of the build..... right side still a bird's best of wires so that's not on. I have the two front fans blowing in, the rear blowing out .... and two on the right side blowing out (yes in the panel that's unmounted) .... It's about 3C warmer inside the case even at idle.

I can see I have a battle going on with the two rad fans blowing in and air wanting to escape thru the bottom grille once case is all sealed up.....

5 rad fans blowing in
2 front fans blowing in
2 side fans blowing out
1 rear fan blowing out is 7 to 3.

Thinking of switching to ....

2 Bottom rad fans blowing in
2 Front fans blowing in
1 5.25 bay fan blowing in

2 side fans blowing out
1 rear fan blowing out
3 Top rad Fans blowing out

Wondering if any of the following is doable / beneficial

1. I can mount extra intake fans on case bottom .... shuda looked before I put all this crap in it smile.gif
2. Adding two pull fans on bottom rad ...leaving top alone
3. Adding external fans.... looks like I can get one over expansion slots and one on rear where alt PSU wud exhaust.
4. Doubling up on 5.25 bay fan .... requires opening door
5. Reversing side fans

I've been struggling with the same idea. Hot air rises, so it makes more sense to me to have the top rad be exhaust rather than fight physics and have everything else intake. Has anyone tried comparing the enthoo with different configs like this?
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post #1863 of 18657
Well I went with the option of having the 480 fans point downward. Attached are some photos of the rad with fans, my drainport, and an ST30 on the side in push. It would easily fit an XT45 but I wanted to make sure I had enough space to run my tubing from the pump to the rad with no issues. The pump will be on the mount on the back side. Some of the pics show how much room there is back there.

I opted to use only one front intake fan to make a drain port off the radiator. As you can see, a second fan in that spot would largely be blocked by the rad anyways and I didn't feel it was worth it. I have a couple of mm clearance between the front vents and that drain port.

Word of advice to anyone using corsair fans, the cables are really short. Buy extensions bulb.gif









Sorry about the finger smudges on the rad!
post #1864 of 18657
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Step drill bits work great for holes in sheet metal up to 36mm. I prefer the longer steps like below.
4-22mm, 14-26mm, 12-28mm and 20-36mm


But there are others too
4-32mm

Edited by doyll - 12/8/13 at 2:46pm
post #1865 of 18657
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Originally Posted by pchangover View Post

So you ended up not trying the 280 in the front then? I'd love to try and keep the 140mm fans active so I might have to get a shroud or something if I do go with a 240mm... or try to do some modding to jam a 280mm in there. I think I'm going to do some measuring now lol.

There's no room for a shroud tho the mounting arrangement now pretty much necks in the 140mm dispersal area already.


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Originally Posted by Maverickbp View Post

I may just do that and thank you. So you have to drill/dremel those holes? You obviously lost the use of that bay no? I'm going to need space for a blu-ray burner & possibly from what I hear 1-2 fan controllers like the Reeven? I know using a 420 up top will cost me one 5 1/4 bay. i have many hard drives which is why I don't want to lose any cages. If I have to lose the bottom cage for whatever, or in the future need to add a http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10060/cpa-294/Evercool_ARMOR_Dual_525_Drive_Bay_to_Triple_35_HDD_Cooling_Box_HD-AR-R-BK.html?tl=g34c147s238 to turn 2 5 1/4 bays into 3 3 1/2 slots, I'll need to have two additional bays remaining. If it ends up being not possible then so be it. I could always of course mod 1-2 hd's into those bays with some MacGyvering.

Where do you have your fill/bleed ports? Were they built into the 420 up top or the 280 in the bottom?


The 420 on top won't let ya get a BR in there but even pushed froward to access the top ports but ya just might be able to get a Reeven in there. With the 420 pushed all the way back, no problem for the Reeeven. This is what I mean by "pulled forward"



Those are me fill and bleed ports (have 30mm Bitspower extensions and plugs on them.)

You could of course pick up an inch pushing it back and then drilling holes for the ports but back there access to the bottom for tube routing is likely gonna be affected by rear fan.


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Originally Posted by pchangover View Post

Hmmm is there anyway to use that tube with the stock top? I see it does come in black, but that's an extra $17 towards a build that I've already blown the budget on hehe.
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17769/ex-res-460/EK_X3_Reservoir_Replacement_Top_EK-RES_X3_-_Multiport_TOP.html?tl=g57c615s1884
I'm kind of in the same boat now. I'm going to be ordering a second 290 to do mining with and I'll be ordering another EK block for it. At that point I'd like to add another radiator to my battle-group but I'm not sure if I should go with a 240mm in the front or a single 140mm in the rear. I'd love to get a 280mm in there but I don't see that actually fitting.

With the stock top you can use the plain old Bitspower tube
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11864/ex-tub-714/Bitspower_G_14_Matte_Black_Aqua-Pipe_I_BP-MBWP-C17.html?tl=c97s169b145

Tho..... no way to fill res past bottom of tube or let air trapped above bottom of tube.


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Originally Posted by Maverickbp View Post

Will these work?

Dimensions (LxWxH): 278 x 144 x 30 mm

Technical pdf drawing
http://www.alphacool.com/download/280-140-30.pdf

Drawing says 317.5 .... didn't I read ya had 311 of space ? The vendor measurements are prolly rad only w/o the end chamber
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/8/13 at 3:11pm
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Ya I already had edited my post with measurements from Alphacool's site. I was using a vendor's site's measurements which apparently were pretty far off so ya it's a no go.
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The 420 on top won't let ya get a BR in there but even pushed froward to access the top ports but ya just might be able to get a Reeven in there. With the 420 pushed all the way back, no problem for the Reeeven. This is what I mean by "pulled forward"

Well that's good to know I may not lose a 5 1/4 bay as long as I put a Reeven in the top spot. Sounds good to me. Thanks.
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Well that's good to know I may not lose a 5 1/4 bay as long as I put a Reeven in the top spot. Sounds good to me. Thanks.

That's the Reeven in place with BR under it.....again, I don't seem to need the pull fans and w/o those, it woud be cake..... those tall silver thingies are the worry if ya move the 420 forward.



Here's the fill / bleed tube in place ... I have another 6" extension above the valve .... I used the silver fitting ya see under the silly blue shot glass sized funnel to mount a larger one on top of the 6" extension.

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So I'm probably going to pull the trigger on the 240mm ST30. Any thoughts on leaving the two 140mm phanteks in the front and using some very short screws to attach the ST30 to the 120mm fan mounts? I really like those front fans and would rather not put 2 120mm in there.
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So I'm probably going to pull the trigger on the 240mm ST30. Any thoughts on leaving the two 140mm phanteks in the front and using some very short screws to attach the ST30 to the 120mm fan mounts? I really like those front fans and would rather not put 2 120mm in there.

That's exactly what I did.
If you buy some M3 x 6mm screws they fit great with Alphacool rads.
Put the rad in place, then take the front fans out which exposes the fan mount holes behind them. Screw in the rad and then put the front fans back in!
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