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post #19111 of 19388
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

No, I understood your post. I think he is in a group of one with his legacy belief. I was just curious what range of CPU is now becoming too slow for modern use. There is also the problem with 6+ year old motherboards not having USB3, Sata 3, Bluetooth, etc .. which is what I find most problematic with my old X58 systems. Processing speed if fine, but no decent Sata3 or USB3 is problematic.. and when adding new components finding compatible drivers.
The 7700k is a legacy product period....if you not happy with it go ask intel to recall its new replacement called 8700k and as for triple a titles, this quad core cpu has already been choked at 100% since its debut...it costs a fortune, and has one sole purpose to have you change CPu as soon as possible...if gaming is your thing .....it absolutely makes no sense to buy a cpu that struggles with last years titles running at 100%......move on to the 8700k and you will at least have a cpu that will be able to handle games for a couple of years.....You might not have yet noticed but the whole industry has made a massive leap in all its global ecosystem this year....just as it is now common to have octacores in smart phones today game developers will finally have the ability to step up both physics and photorealism AI weather systems particle systems sound systems, data systems to a whole new level, that even for a 6 core it not going to be easy to handle by 2019/2020...I don t wanna mention that if you are still on 1080p gaming spare yourself time and money and just buy an xbox or playstation and hook it up to a 4k TV....because there is NOTHING that a fiat 500 running on kerosene can contribute to the client experience and immersion, whether you are gaming or whether you do 2 work in PS or Autocad or moderate nurb modeling and rendering.
post #19112 of 19388
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Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

Oh ok. Well, I'm coming from a 2600K and jumping to an 8700K because I'm creating a new build so I don't think I can answer your question accurately tongue.gif That's a really big jump to "keep up" with games especially with a GTX 1080Ti and 1440p 144Hz.
thats a sweet spot and you will be more than happy for quite along time, the 1080ti could be for some a slight overkill, but on the long run its the best buy you could have made and You will find yourself thinking of upgrading maybe 4 years from now or more.....on top of that you will respectful have entry level workstation capabilities which nowadays is something not to underestimate as more and more gamers and overall PC clients get into creating video and 3d content.
post #19113 of 19388
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Originally Posted by Aby67 View Post

The 7700k is a legacy product period....if you not happy with it go ask intel to recall its new replacement called 8700k and as for triple a titles, this quad core cpu has already been choked at 100% since its debut...it costs a fortune, and has one sole purpose to have you change CPu as soon as possible...if gaming is your thing .....it absolutely makes no sense to buy a cpu that struggles with last years titles running at 100%......move on to the 8700k and you will at least have a cpu that will be able to handle games for a couple of years.....You might not have yet noticed but the whole industry has made a massive leap in all its global ecosystem this year....just as it is now common to have octacores in smart phones today game developers will finally have the ability to step up both physics and photorealism AI weather systems particle systems sound systems, data systems to a whole new level, that even for a 6 core it not going to be easy to handle by 2019/2020...I don t wanna mention that if you are still on 1080p gaming spare yourself time and money and just buy an xbox or playstation and hook it up to a 4k TV....because there is NOTHING that a fiat 500 running on kerosene can contribute to the client experience and immersion, whether you are gaming or whether you do 2 work in PS or Autocad or moderate nurb modeling and rendering.

Oh! You're one of them! Can't wait for you to start calling people peasants...
post #19114 of 19388
Dont think it's a legacy product but the appeal is not as high as it use to be for sure. That's more of the intel mass brain washing than anything else. Quad cores should of been gone a couple years ago on the i7 line. The almost instant launch of 6 core and rumored 8 core from intel on the mainstream when competition arrives is a clear sign of the sandbagging in the mainstream.
post #19115 of 19388
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Originally Posted by kevindd992002 View Post

Oh ok. Well, I'm coming from a 2600K and jumping to an 8700K because I'm creating a new build so I don't think I can answer your question accurately tongue.gif That's a really big jump to "keep up" with games especially with a GTX 1080Ti and 1440p 144Hz.
So your 2600K was no longer fast enough for your needs or was it just fast enough and you are a at the point you want to upgrade anyway?
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The 7700k is a legacy product period....if you not happy with it go ask intel to recall its new replacement called 8700k and as for triple a titles, this quad core cpu has already been choked at 100% since its debut...it costs a fortune, and has one sole purpose to have you change CPu as soon as possible...if gaming is your thing .....it absolutely makes no sense to buy a cpu that struggles with last years titles running at 100%......move on to the 8700k and you will at least have a cpu that will be able to handle games for a couple of years.....You might not have yet noticed but the whole industry has made a massive leap in all its global ecosystem this year....just as it is now common to have octacores in smart phones today game developers will finally have the ability to step up both physics and photorealism AI weather systems particle systems sound systems, data systems to a whole new level, that even for a 6 core it not going to be easy to handle by 2019/2020...I don t wanna mention that if you are still on 1080p gaming spare yourself time and money and just buy an xbox or playstation and hook it up to a 4k TV....because there is NOTHING that a fiat 500 running on kerosene can contribute to the client experience and immersion, whether you are gaming or whether you do 2 work in PS or Autocad or moderate nurb modeling and rendering.
How about you stop repeating yourself? Most of us do not consider a 4 core / 8 thread 4.6GHz CPU 'legacy'. Almost everything in your post is unrelated to topics in theis forum. 7700K may be over priced but definitely has enough cores and speed to do the jobs 99% of us do. All you are doing is beating a dead horse in Phanteks case thread. If you want to argue about 7700K, take it to the CPU forums.
Edited by doyll - 11/20/17 at 9:08am
post #19116 of 19388
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

Oh! You're one of them! Can't wait for you to start calling people peasants...
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Oh! You're one of them! Can't wait for you to start calling people peasants...
Well, i"m an educated peasant .. if that makes any difference. tongue.gif
post #19117 of 19388
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Originally Posted by ciarlatano View Post

How is a 7700K "nostalgic"? It is very useful for a number of applications where an "upgrade" would be little more than a very expensive sidegrade. There are a good number of us who actually use computers as computers, and not as glorified gaming consoles. I'm not about to drop $1K to save six seconds on a CAD project, and the suggestion of doing so would be ridiculously misguided. I could give a rat's buttocks about what game will and won't run on my rig, since they will never be installed on it. If you are going to lambast someone for their parts choice, maybe you should have the faintest idea what said part is being used for. You kids thinking the world sits around playing video games..... rolleyes.gif
Yes....provided you actually put them under water and don't do the CLC ghetto rig. Two blocks and something as simple as a Swiftech H240-X (which can be had cheap - http://www.swiftech.com/H240-X.aspx) would do wonders for what you are trying to do.
I'd love an H320, but can't find them anywhere.
You think the 240 could dissipate all the heat I want to throw at it?
Will probably be forced into the custom loop world.

Back to doyll's point of only 2 intake fans, would they suffice to provide enough cool air to the top 360mm rad I'd like to install eventually?
Or do I need a bigger case for more airflow from the front?
post #19118 of 19388
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Based on your current temps my guess is yes. Everything I said is the same except GPU is using about 100cfm instead of 200cfm. Can't you understand that with only 130cfm of cool air from 2x front intakes you can't supply the 200+cfm of cool air needed to cool 2x GPUs?? And that doesn't even take into consideration the airflow needed for CPU cooling,

Like I said before, the case simply is not designed for more than 1 air cooled GPU. It's designed for one CPU and one GPU on air or liquid cooling. Putting more in is simply pushing the limits of it's airflow capabilities.
10-4 good sir.
If I put in a custom loop with a 360mm up top, can this case supply enough cool air to dissipate the heat of 2 1080 ti's and the OC's 7700k?
Could turn around my rear exhaust for 3, 140mm intakes.
Maybe upgrade the fans as well?

Just trying to figure out my plan here.
Thx again man.
post #19119 of 19388
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Originally Posted by lapper13 View Post

10-4 good sir.
If I put in a custom loop with a 360mm up top, can this case supply enough cool air to dissipate the heat of 2 1080 ti's and the OC's 7700k?
Could turn around my rear exhaust for 3, 140mm intakes.
Maybe upgrade the fans as well?

Just trying to figure out my plan here.
Thx again man.
What You could actually do if You like small format cases, is to build an external waterbox...eg using a watercool mo-ra3 radiator....if will be a lil more costful investment, but then it stays with you for life and it is way easier to clean when needed, you can hide it under the desk or put it near the window or even decouple it outside your balcony and so save tons of energy during the summer when you use air conditioning

http://shop.watercool.de/epages/WatercooleK.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WatercooleK/Categories/Radiatoren/MO-RA3.

During mild autumn winter evenings as long as You dont freeze the loop and not get below dew point you can also use it as a natural chiller, and if temps are too cold you can take back indoors, with quick disconnects you can also move your PC anytime any please without great weight etc etc.
If you are an overlcocker but still prefer stylish looking cases over functional ones this is the way to go...we all hope of course that at Phanteks they will come up with stylish and functional soon, as per quality they actually the very best out there, especially for the higher end cases.
post #19120 of 19388
I would recommend running a 360 & 240/280, a 360 would cover it but just barely due to the heat you'll be dumping into the loop with the OC'd 7700k and if you OC the 1080Ti's. I would recommend against external rads in the event you need to travel with the rig etc (just not a fan of them since cases are designed well enough now to keep everything internal)
     
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