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post #2051 of 19205
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Originally Posted by bond32 View Post

I run 8 ap-15's and all 5 stock fans at full blast off the fan hub... Connected the additional power of course. I don't think the ap-15's draw but a watt at max so shouldn't be a problem.

The GT AP-15 (1850 rpm) fan is rated at 83 mA (,083 amps) but its startup is 360 mA (.36 amps) which iirc watts = amps x volts which would be .36 x 12 = 4.32 watts per fan at startup.
Eight AP-15s would be over 35 watts at startup.

Gentle Typhoon AP-15

Gentle Typhoon AP-15
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 12/22/13 at 6:55am
post #2052 of 19205
Anybody knows how to use the Fan hub with a normal fancontroller?
Dont want it on my motherboard want it "external" controlled..
It doesnt work with a normal fan controller. and i have a hard time finding a 4 pin fan controller..
post #2053 of 19205
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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

Anybody knows how to use the Fan hub with a normal fancontroller?
Dont want it on my motherboard want it "external" controlled..
It doesnt work with a normal fan controller. and i have a hard time finding a 4 pin fan controller..

The only way Enthoo Primo's hub would work with a fan controller would be if it's a 'PWM' fan controller. The Enthoo Primo hub is meant to be used with 3 pin (non-PWM) fans. It's possible to control PWM fans via a 3-pin voltage control like the Phanteks hub does, but many PWM (4-pin) fans do not like to be run like that, and can shorten their lifespan considerably.

If you have PWM (4 pin fans) you want to control you could just get a PWM splitter like the PCB one from Swiftech or a cable PWM splitter like it. They do the exact same thing. They use the tach and PWM signal wire from the CPU_FAN header on a mobo and the power from your PSU via a molex. Then you can control the fans via speedfan or the like. There are some limitations though. You'd be limited to about 8 fans from one PWM signal from the mobo, and a few PWM fans, like Corsair's for example, that rely on a higher-than-standard PWM-signal current to operate, thus often have trouble when trying to use more than 4 fans in this way.

If you have more PWM fans than that, then you might want to consider getting a PWM-capable fan controller. The Aquaero 6 comes to mind, although it's pricy. There are probably cheaper alternatives.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 12/22/13 at 7:42am
post #2054 of 19205
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

The only way Enthoo Primo's hub would work with a fan controller would be if it's a 'PWM' fan controller. The Enthoo Primo hub is meant to be used with 3 pin (non-PWM) fans. It's possible to control PWM fans via a 3-pin voltage control like the Phanteks hub does, but many PWM (4-pin) fans do not like to be run like that, and can shorten their lifespan considerably.

If you have PWM (4 pin fans) you want to control you could just get a PWM splitter like the PCB one from Swiftech or a cable PWM splitter like it. They do the exact same thing. They use the tach and PWM signal wire from the CPU_FAN header on a mobo and the power from your PSU via a molex. Then you can control the fans via speedfan or the like. There are some limitations though. You'd be limited to about 8 fans from one PWM signal from the mobo, and a few PWM fans, like Corsair's for example, that rely on a higher-than-standard PWM-signal current to operate, thus often have trouble when trying to use more than 4 fans in this way.

If you have more PWM fans than that, then you might want to consider getting a PWM-capable fan controller. The Aquaero 6 comes to mind, although it's pricy. There are probably cheaper alternatives.

Thank you for the tips.
i dont use any pwm fans. but the problem is i cant make the hub run without pwm signal tryed both my nzxt fan controllen and my scythe..
so hunting a 4 pin fan controller becouse of that reason. gonna check out the aquaero!
post #2055 of 19205
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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

Thank you for the tips.
i dont use any pwm fans. but the problem is i cant make the hub run without pwm signal tryed both my nzxt fan controllen and my scythe..
so hunting a 4 pin fan controller becouse of that reason. gonna check out the aquaero!

Is there a reason you don't just use the PWM signal from the CPU_FAN header on your mobo? That's what the Phanteks hub was designed for.

If you had an Aquaero 6 you'd have no reason to use the Phanteks hub at all. It can control dozens of fans (3-pin or 4-pin), and pumps, and more, all by itself, but those capabilities don't come cheap.
post #2056 of 19205
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

Is there a reason you don't just use the PWM signal from the CPU_FAN header on your mobo? That's what the Phanteks hub was designed for.

If you had an Aquaero 6 you'd have no reason to use the Phanteks hub at all. It can control dozens of fans (3-pin or 4-pin), and pumps, and more, all by itself, but those capabilities don't come cheap.

yeah about that.. the problem you know is that i had a shorted cpu fan once. since then i havent been able to control any fans through it. so ive been running on controllers for everything.. xD rolleyes.gif
post #2057 of 19205
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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

Anybody knows how to use the Fan hub with a normal fancontroller?
Dont want it on my motherboard want it "external" controlled..
It doesnt work with a normal fan controller. and i have a hard time finding a 4 pin fan controller..
You will need a controller that generates it's own PWM signal that is manually adjustable... and I don't know of any. Well. Aquaero might make something you could use.
http://www.aquacomputer.de/

Edit: Too slow. frown.gif
Edited by doyll - 12/22/13 at 8:18am
post #2058 of 19205
Just wondering whats going to happen if the new graphic cards have longer pcb. How your going to upgrade if you have a tube reservoir
post #2059 of 19205
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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

Thank you for the tips.
i dont use any pwm fans. but the problem is i cant make the hub run without pwm signal tryed both my nzxt fan controllen and my scythe..
so hunting a 4 pin fan controller becouse of that reason. gonna check out the aquaero!

Did ya try w/o the 12V plugged in ? When chassis fan MoBo headers are used, all fans connected to the fan PCB go to full speed as soon as the 12v is plugged into the hub.

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Originally Posted by hanksy3 View Post

Just wondering whats going to happen if the new graphic cards have longer pcb. How your going to upgrade if you have a tube reservoir

I'd make some allowances when choosing and placing the tube reservoir..... but I generally don't reuse cases when doing upgrades .... in fact can't remember ever doing so....also top end cards , at least reference models have,t changed that much.

the 285 was 10.5 inches long
the 480 was 9.5 inches long
the 580 was 10.5 inches long
the 680 was 10.0 inches long
the 780 was 10.5 inches long

By starting out with an SLI build, I know I'm going to be OK GFX wise for quite a while..... 4 years from now, I'll want a new design vase.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/23/13 at 11:43am
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post #2060 of 19205

It might be considered a compromise but I've located my tube res in front of my gpu. I got my case 3 weeks ago and have barely had time to work on it but I do have the loop configured rads/pump/res/blocks installed in the case. I have lighting and working hardware yet to install along with some more stuff I ordered that I was missing after the initial build. Thanks to the many ideas I've gotten here from peeps sharing the ideas and builds. I'll take some pics when I get back home from vacation if anyone is interested and I'll answer questions if I can help.

 

 

The only things that changed from the illustration above is the pump res combo where I decided to go with the bitspower variant and the top right fill port is gone and drain bottom right on the monsta was added. I suppose I could get a larger rad in the bottom but I think it will be sufficient enough my my needs.

 

I opted to get a couple extra phantek led fans for 3 at the very top and 3 non led below the top rad all of which connect to the fan header and led on/off. I borrowed one led from the from the front to make room for the monsta and one non led from from the bottom to minimize what I had to buy. 

 

I've been building watercooled case for 12 years and this is by far the best case I've had yet. Very happy with it so far. Easiest build ever thanks to Phantek.


Edited by owcraftsman - 12/22/13 at 7:57pm
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i7 7700k MSI Z270 Gaming M7 Asus GTX 1080Ti FE G.SKILL 32GB (4 x 8GB) Ripjaws V Series DDR4 PC... 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
Samsung 950 Pro M.2 WDC WD1003FZEX-00MK2A0 Seagate Backup+ Desk SCSI Disk Device asus bc-12b1st 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
XSPC Raystorm Pro corsair sp120 high performance led tygon E-1000 1/2 ID x 3/4 OD plasticizer free kryographics Pascal for NVIDIA TITAN X and GTX ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
Mayhem Pastel White UV Monsoon center compression fittings  Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper 280mm radiator  Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 Full Copper 240mm radiator  
CoolingCoolingCoolingOS
Monsoon Series Two D5 Premium Dual Bay Reservoi... Phanteks PH-F140SP Case Fan Aquacomputer backplate for kryographics Pascal ... Windows 10 Pro x64 
MonitorMonitorKeyboardPower
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