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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

okey i cant find the page where we where discussin what rad thickness fits on top in push pull. im buying a new rad for the top and whant to know it. [...]

This may be what you're thinking of. I believe it should answer what you want to know .
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

Question about your drawing (and this case in particular).

From what I'm reading, it doesn't appear that I will be able to put an XSPC RX360 60mm radiator with "push/pull" fans up top and have it not hit my GA-Z77Z-UP7 motherboard. I rant into no amount of issues with trying to cram that into my Switch 810 case, and ended up taking a grinder to the case to finally shoe-horn it in. If this isn't the case here (and I hope I can just put an RX360 in "push/pull" in this case), what are your thoughts about just doing push on the RX360?

According to your drawing, you are sucking cool air in from the top, pushing it through the radiator, and dumping it INSIDE the case. I've always tried to avoid this. Do you think it will be a major issue? Or should I just get a 45mm 360 radiator and go "push/pull" up to and have the air blow out the top?

Thanks for any input.

There's 70mm of space from the top of the mobo to the top of the case, and roughly ~54mm of offset from the mobo with 120-series rads (240, 360, 480) so unless you have something on your mobo near the top that's taller than ~50mm it's possible to put a 60mm or even an 80mm thick rad in push/pull even if you were so inclined but a monsta in push pull would overhang the top 35mm of the mobo.

If you do have anything on your mobo taller than ~50mm then you would need to go with a 45mm thick rad in push pull.

Here's a repost of a recent similar discussion that you may find helpful.
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Guys what is the maximum thickness of rad i can put at the top of the case in push pull, Triple 360mm?

Short answer: A 45mm thick 120-series rad like a 360 or 480 in push-pull with 25mm thick fans will extend down to even with the top of a mobo, but also will be ~54mm offset from the mobo so as long as you don't have anything taller than ~54mm on your mobo, like heatsinks or ram, etc, it's possible that you can get away with an even thicker rad, a 60mm or an 80mm thick monsta even, if you don't mind the rad & fans overhanging the mobo.

Rather than reinvent the wheel, here's a more extensive recent reply to someone else where I'm referencing a 480 rad, but all the same clearance issues also apply to a 360 rad too except a 360 won't affect the front 5.25" drive bays like a 480 might.
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I have a 480 XT45 in the roof in push-pull.

There is 70 mm of clearance from the top of the mobo to the inside top of the case, so an Xt45 with push fan (45mm + 25mm) comes just even with the top of the mobo. A 45mm thick rad with 25mm push fan will fit perfect with any motherboard because 120mm-series rad/fan mounts are also offset by ~54 mm (140mm series fans/rads are offset by ~44mm).

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With that offset, as long as you don't have anything on your mobo taller than ~54mm, you can run even thicker rads in push pull.

Do note that you will pretty much lose the use of your top 5.25" bay with a 45mm 480 with push fans.

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FYI, most of these type questions have been answered by Jesse (jassilamba) over at themodzoo in the FAQs accompanying his review:

http://themodzoo.com/forum/index.php?/page/articles.html/_/reviews/cases/phanteks-enthoo-primo-full-tower-review-r67?pg=8


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What is the max clearance for a radiator installed in the top panel?

- The case has a clearance of 70mm for mounting a radiator in the roof. The mounts are offset by ~54mm so installing a 60mm (120mm series) radiator in push pull should not be an issue. As long as you do not have anything taller than 53mm on the motherboard (including ram), you can even install a 480mm monsta radiator in push pull. The X79 Dark, and G-Skill ram CAN be used with a monsta rad in push pull
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and i was wondering if someone is not using the pwm hub i would need another one to put all fans running though the hub.
i can pay shipment and what you want for it.

You might want to post a 'Wanted' post in the OCN marketplace for it with what you're willing to pay.

That, or someone here posted that Phanteks should be offering it for sale separately before too long (sometime January iirc).
post #2082 of 18675
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

This may be what you're thinking of. I believe it should answer what you want to know .
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You might want to post a 'Wanted' post in the OCN marketplace for it with what you're willing to pay.

That, or someone here posted that Phanteks should be offering it for sale separately before too long (sometime January iirc).

exactly what i was looking for thank you smile.gif i will check the marketplace then thanks!
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Is it shorter than the cooler ?

No ruler in the house ? How about a coin.....pen ? anything which is fairly universal ?


How about a picture of the underside ?

PCB is about 11-11.25 inches.

Sorry for the bad quality here.



I took the bracket out, but here it shows where the card would collide when I tried to install it with the bracket in place.

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PCB is about 11-11.25 inches. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Sorry for the bad quality here.



I took the bracket out, but here it shows where the card would collide when I tried to install it with the bracket in place.


Wow, that is a long card. There definitely does not look to be enough room to mount a res to the right of the mobo. It's hard to tell from the angle of the pics but it looks like a res would fit on the back panel, but in your previous post I believe you mentioned it wouldn't. Even if the holes don't line up for the res brackets with the holes provided there are you sure there's not room for the res to fit if you drilled your own holes?
post #2085 of 18675
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

Wow, that is a long card. There definitely does not look to be enough room to mount a res to the right of the mobo. It's hard to tell from the angle of the pics but it looks like a res would fit on the back panel, but in your previous post I believe you mentioned it wouldn't. Even if the holes don't line up for the res brackets with the holes provided there are you sure there's not room for the res to fit if you drilled your own holes?

The card blocks the top few but the bottom few are fine, especially since I don't plan on adding anything more.

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Originally Posted by Kurodragon View Post

The card blocks the top few but the bottom few are fine, especially since I don't plan on adding anything more. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Measuring in my case from where it looks like your card reaches, there looks to be 70-80mm of space between the card and the side panel. I realize you can't use the holes Phanteks provided, but you shouldn't have a lot of trouble mounting a 60mm wide res there. If you can set the res up in there then you can make it fit. Just look at it from the back while you do and see where the holes for the mounting screws need to be. Look's like you may need to use washers for any screws that's going through a vent hole and/or you may need to drill a couple holes yourself.
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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

okey i cant find the page where we where discussin what rad thickness fits on top in push pull. im buying a new rad for the top and whant to know it.
and i was wondering if someone is not using the pwm hub i would need another one to put all fans running though the hub.
i can pay shipment and what you want for it.

45 fits in push / pull with plenty of room to work

60 will fit in push / pull w/ most MoBos but may be difficult to reach certain things like the EPS connector or MCPIE Combo II thingie on M6F
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/24/13 at 10:43am
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You can install 140mm rads in the top depending on ram and mobo heatsinks. I installed a Aquacomputer 280 in push pull and set my Asus Maximus V Extreme with G-Skills Ripjaws Z and pushed all the way troward the front and it just barely made it.
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It's not the width in question....a 420 (140.3) easily fits up top tho it's a bit of a wrestle if it's thicker than 45mm..... up to te 45mm thickness none of the 420's bother ya heatsinks or RAM that I have seen so far..... 60mm thickness will fit most times but can be tricky to get in, may make access to 8 pin EPS difficult as well as your most extreme boards may run into RAM / HS issues.
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The 900d is on sale for 250$ over here. I've spent over an hour debating whether to get the primo or the 900d lol
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