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Thanks 47! It wasn't easy, I went though a lot of tubing.
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

The fill port on the photon has a baffle with 4 oval-shaped holes that the fluid must pass through. This makes filling using the port a bit slow & tricky because you have to tilt the res or the entire case quite a bit to get the fluid to want to go down one or more of the holes while still allowing air to escape from another. Otherwise all of the holes get blocked by water which means that air can't escape, and thus almost no water goes in and you likely wind up spilling water all over the place.

You could buy an M20 to G1/4 fill port adapter that would allow you to connect an inlet hose to the top of an XSPC Photon res. The 4 holes together are larger combined than a G 1/4 opening, and if used as an inlet there is no need for air to be able to escape so it shouldn't cause any issue with respect to flow.

However, if you use the fill port as an inlet you won't be able to bleed air from your res as air won't collect at the top of the res but instead in the inlet hose connected to the fill port or some other high point(s) in your loop. It would likely make filling and bleeding your loop a very challenging endeavor. I would recommend against even trying it. That's really the only benefit to having a tube res at all.

Ya I knew using the top as an inlet wouldn't be the wise so haven't really thought of trying. Now you remind me about the fillport adapter lol. Maybe I don't understand what you mean about the Photon having 4 holes on it's fill port as the top of the reservoir just has one opening up top once you remove the plug.
post #2233 of 18654
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Originally Posted by Roxycon View Post

Haha, "lots of boxes, dont know what they contains, selling to highest bidder" tongue.gif Cant be that bad though

Isnt it supposed to do that, flashing to a newer bios build and clearing the old settings wouldn't nag me at least. Maybe because i do what i do for a living rolleyes.gif

Yes, I did expect to have to re-enter all the settings .... I did not expect a significant temp rise tho I could live with that

I also didn't expect up to a 3 fold increase in voltage being supplied by the adaptive.

At 45 Multiplier / 45 cache ratio my VID needed an increase from 1.275 to1.325 ......max Vcore under Rog Bench went from 1.328 to 1.440

At 46 Multiplier / 46 cache ratio, Im no longer stable. To do 46/43, my VID needed an increase from 1.37 to 1.38 and max Vcore under RoG bench went from 1.42 to 1.48

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Haha, "lots of boxes, dont know what they contains, selling to highest bidder" tongue.gif Cant be that bad though

Oh the boxes are empty ... I was referring to all the tools and supplies.


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Originally Posted by Terminus14 View Post

Ordering my fittings and tubing tomorrow. I've test fit everything and I'm almost certain I know how this whole thing is going to piece together. One question though. For 90° turns, I just need a 90° rotary fitting, right? Or is there something more that I'm missing?

This whole water cooling thing is pretty self explanatory and straight forward but fittings for some reason are daunting to me. I see 90° adapters and extenders and all these different things and it just gets a little overwhelming.

What kind of tubing ..... to do a 90 at a component w/ rigid tubing, ya need a 90 bend and a C47..... to do one out "in space" (tube to tube) ya need a 90, C47 and C68

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COMPONENT CONNECTIONS - ONE IN / ONE OUT - ($11.50 EACH PAIR):

1 x Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47) - $11.50
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

90 DEGREE BEND: ($29.28 EACH) Tube to Tube

1 x Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47) - $11.50
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

1 x Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black Rotary 90° G1/4" Adapter (BP-MB90R) - $11.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10376/ex-tub-629/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Rotary_90_G14_Adapter_BP-MB90R.html?tl=c101s1306b145

1 x Bitspower G1/4 Matte Black Multi-Link Adapter (BP-MBWP-C68) - $5.49
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12748/ex-tub-818/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Multi-Link_Adapter_BP-MBWP-C68.html#blank

45 DEGREE BEND: ($29.28 EACH) Tube to Tube

1 x Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47) - $5.75
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

1 x Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black Rotary 45 Degree G1/4" Adapter (BP-MB45R)- $11.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10375/ex-tub-628/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Rotary_45_Degree_G14_Adapter_BP-MB45R.html?tl=c101s1305b145

1 x Bitspower G1/4 Matte Black Multi-Link Adapter (BP-MBWP-C68) - $5.49
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12748/ex-tub-818/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_Multi-Link_Adapter_BP-MBWP-C68.html#blank


BULKHEAD FITTING: ($40.78 EACH)

0.5 x Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47) - $11.50
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

1 x Bitspower G1/4" Female / Female Pass-Through Fitting - (Fillport) - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C04) - $9.45
Http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10364/ex-tub-608/Bitspower_G14_Female_Female_Pass-Through_Fitting_-_Fillport_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C04.html?tl=c101s460b145

Bitspower G1/4" Low Profile Matte Black Stop Plug w/ O-Ring (BP-MBWP-C09) - $4.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10362/ex-tub-610/Bitspower_G14_Low_Profile_Matte_Black_Stop_Plug_w_O-Ring_BP-MBWP-C09.html?tl=c101s743b145

TEE FITTING: ($30.74 EACH)

1.5 x Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47) - $16.75
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

Bitspower G1/4" Matte Black T Adapter (BP-MBTMB)- $13.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10382/ex-tub-622/Bitspower_G14_Matte_Black_T_Adapter_BP-MBTMB.html?tl=c499s745b145

O-RINGS ($2.99)

Bitspower Deep Bold Red O-Ring - (10 Pack) (BP-WTP-010-DRD) - $2.99
Http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12500/ex-tub-787/Bitspower_Deep_Bold_Red_O-Ring_-_10_Pack_BP-WTP-010-DRD.html?tl=c409s1052b145

QUICK-DISCONNECT ($54.95)

1 x Bitspower SLI / Crossfire Multi-Link Adapter Pair - Matte Black (BP-MBWP-C47) - $11:50
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10743/ex-tub-668/Bitspower_SLI_Crossfire_Multi-Link_Adapter_Pair_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C47.html

Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Female w/ G1/4 Thread (BP-MBQDFG14) - $23.50
Http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17965/ex-tub-1635/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Female_w_G14_Thread_BP-MBQDFG14.html?tl=c405s1954b145#blank

Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Male w/ Inner G1/4 (BP-MBQDMIG14) - $19.95
Http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17966/ex-tub-1636/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Male_w_Inner_G14_BP-MBQDMIG14.html?tl=c405s1954b145
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For flex tube connections, a 90 and a compression fitting will do

There's a parts list and flow iagram w/ all the fittings marked in Post 1000 tho it has mistakes I haven't gotten around to correcting yet.


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Originally Posted by Maverickbp View Post

Speaking of I'm tossing around ideas in my head in planning the cleanest loop i can with the pieces I'm using. All my WC gear just showed up but due to the mining craze my 2 290's are delayed so I have time to plan. Any opinions on how you'd set up this loop are welcome. My Photon while gorgeous is making planning difficult since it has no replaceable top options like the EK reservoir's do. I've seen some people toss the idea around of using the top as an inlet but many have also said it's not a good idea. Here are my parts:

XT420 up top in push
UT280 in the bottom in push
XSPC Photon 270mm reservoir w/ some 16lb weight limit velcro strips
XSPC Raystorm cpu block
2x XSPC 290 waterblocks w/ backplates and 3 slot sli flow bridge
Swiftech MCP35x pump (which i'd like to mount on the designed mount but am open to opinions)
10ft Primoflex Advanced LRT clear tubing


All fittings/tubing are 1/2ID x 3/4OD. 10x compression fittings, 4x 45 degree rotary fittings, 2x rotary male to male fittings, 1x 90 degree rotary to 1/2 ID barb fitting, 1 Phobya valve with 2 G1/4 connection, and a T connector.

As you can see I decided to copy the other member's clever idea with the T connector and shut off drain valve off of the pump. It's late so I'm too tired to find his picture but he did post one. The pump comes with two barbs. I figured since the pump is hidden I'll go ahead and use one barb coming out the top. The other connecter will be a compression M2M>T connector>90 degree rotary w/ barb. The remaining end on the T connector will be M2M>Phobya valve>other barb from the pump.

Btw all but one 3 1/2 HD slot is filled and only 1 5 1/4 bay being used.
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Originally Posted by Terminus14 View Post

Ordering my fittings and tubing tomorrow. I've test fit everything and I'm almost certain I know how this whole thing is going to piece together. One question though. For 90° turns, I just need a 90° rotary fitting, right? Or is there something more that I'm missing?

This whole water cooling thing is pretty self explanatory and straight forward but fittings for some reason are daunting to me. I see 90° adapters and extenders and all these different things and it just gets a little overwhelming.

Your loop will likely be similar to mine, main differences being

-EK Supremacy versus Raystorm
-290's versus 780s
-Bridge versus parallel pipes
-Photon versus EK Res
-Swiftech 35x2 versus 35x
-I have MoBo Block

That being said..... I'd suggest the following"

1. Take out the lower HD cage and move the upper one forward .... up against the intake fans. Put Pump on Enthoo Mounting plate on bottom slide rail.

2. With the UT280 mounting with fittings towards the front.... go from pump to the "back" top rad port.

3. Come outta the front Rad port and go to ya lower right port on the GFX bridge

4. Come outta bridge and go up to front bottom XT45 port up top. XT45 mounted with fittings towards rear of case and slid forward so that top ports can be used as fill / bleed ports.

5. From back bottom port of XT45 to to Raystorm inlet which should be mounted with holes vertically and inlet on bottom.

6. From Raystorm to Photon and from Photon to pump inlet..

I'm told filling a Photon from the top is a very challenging endeavor.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 12/31/13 at 3:32pm
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Originally Posted by Maverickbp View Post

Ya I knew using the top as an inlet wouldn't be the wise so haven't really thought of trying. Now you remind me about the fillport adapter lol. Maybe I don't understand what you mean about the Photon having 4 holes on it's fill port as the top of the reservoir just has one opening up top once you remove the plug.

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

Those 4 holes makes it pretty tricky to fill. You have to tilt it.
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

Those 4 holes makes it pretty tricky to fill. You have to tilt it.

Oh I getcha. Ya I didn't take the plug out when I looked it over otherwise I would've understood better. Now I can see why you mentioned it being a long tedious task.
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post


Your loop will likely be similar to mine, main differences being

-EK Supremacy versus Raystorm
-290's versus 780s
-Bridge versus parallel pipes
-Photon versus EK Res
-Swiftech 35x2 versus 35x
-I have MoBo Block

That being said..... I'd suggest the following"

1. Take out the lower HD cage and move the upper one forward .... up against the intake fans. Put Pump on Enthoo Mounting plate on bottom slide rail.

2. With the UT280 mounting with fittings towards the front.... go from pump to the "back" top rad port.

3. Come outta the front Rad port and go to ya lower right port on the GFX bridge

4. Come outta bridge and go up to front bottom XT45 port up top. XT45 mounted with fittings towards rear of case and slid forward so that top ports can be used as fill / bleed ports.

5. From back bottom port of XT45 to to Raystorm inlet which should be mounted with holes vertically and inlet on bottom.

6. From Raystorm to Photon and from Photon to pump inlet..

I'm told filling a Photon from the top is a very challenging endeavor.

Only issue is removing the bottom cage isn't possible for me as I mentioned earlier all slots are filled except the very last one...for now. When I say that I mean 5/6 slots are filled.
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Oh I getcha. Ya I didn't take the plug out when I looked it over otherwise I would've understood better. Now I can see why you mentioned it being a long tedious task.

Once you see what's going on it's not really all that hard or time consuming. If you tilt the case enough and/or use a fill bottle like this you can fill a 270 res in a couple minutes. But if you don't realize the need to allow air to escape to make room for the water coming in and you just go to pouring water in the top, even pouring slowly, you are likely going to spill water everywhere.
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Only issue is removing the bottom cage isn't possible for me as I mentioned earlier all slots are filled except the very last one...for now. When I say that I mean 5/6 slots are filled.

Easy to get lost who's got what in where ...... I''m old so have an excuse smile.gif ..... .... I was confusing peeps w/ my questions so I put it all in my siggie

Are you also the one who has all the 5.25 bays filled ? So ya can't put 2 HD's in 2 bays up there.


I have almost 30 years of business records for my engineering firm (AutoCAD drawings, site photos) , all my family photos, kids I-tunes backups and ever other piece of electronic info on a single 2 TB HD....backed up to a 2nd internal 2TB and alternating off site ones. So I have trouble envisioning that many drives
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Easy to get lost who's got what in where ...... I''m old so have an excuse smile.gif ..... .... I was confusing peeps w/ my questions so I put it all in my siggie

Are you also the one who has all the 5.25 bays filled ? So ya can't put 2 HD's in 2 bays up there.


I have almost 30 years of business records for my engineering firm (AutoCAD drawings, site photos) , all my family photos, kids I-tunes backups and ever other piece of electronic info on a single 2 TB HD....backed up to a 2nd internal 2TB and alternating off site ones. So I have trouble envisioning that many drives

its easy havin that many drives when you computer is gamin /server/nas at the same time rolleyes.gif
I got windows installations with PXE on my one + movie storage like 6 Tb for tv and media pc and then ofcource gaming so drives are priority for me atleast..
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Easy to get lost who's got what in where ...... I''m old so have an excuse smile.gif ..... .... I was confusing peeps w/ my questions so I put it all in my siggie

Are you also the one who has all the 5.25 bays filled ? So ya can't put 2 HD's in 2 bays up there.


I have almost 30 years of business records for my engineering firm (AutoCAD drawings, site photos) , all my family photos, kids I-tunes backups and ever other piece of electronic info on a single 2 TB HD....backed up to a 2nd internal 2TB and alternating off site ones. So I have trouble envisioning that many drives

It's ok. You'd be surprised to know how many tb's I have when u add up all my internal/external storage.

No I only have 1 5 1/4 bay filled and have contemplated getting a 2 5 1/4 bay to 3 3 1/2 bay adapter. However why would I need to remove the entire bottom cage? Once moved forward there should be space to route the tube from the pump to the bottom rad.
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