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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

[...] I have almost 30 years of business records for my engineering firm (AutoCAD drawings, site photos) , all my family photos, kids I-tunes backups and ever other piece of electronic info on a single 2 TB HD....backed up to a 2nd internal 2TB and alternating off site ones. So I have trouble envisioning that many drives

lololol lachen.gif

I have three NAS with four 3TB WD Reds in each (total 36 TB) all filled to ~85% each. I can't put anything else on them or else their scheduled defrag freezes / never completes. All are RAID 0 so there's no backup of anything. The idea when I started was to have a 0 + 1 array, but I keep needing the space faster than I can buy more HDDs / NAS units. When I'm done building this Enthoo Primo I'll be adding another NAS - perhaps a bigger one this time.

My Cosmos 2 is the family room HTPC / Gaming rig, and I have 4TB WD blacks in 10 of it's 11 HDD bays (40TB) that all but the newest HDD I just added a couple weeks ago are at or slightly above 80% capacity. Even the new drive has over 1TB on it already. The 11th bay has the SSD with the OS on it.

I currently have two of the six 4TB WD blacks I'll be putting in the Enthoo Primo. I'm just waiting now for the price to drop again and I'll snag up the other four drives I need, and after that I'll be looking for the price to drop on the 1TB samsung EVOs to go with the one I already have fill up the rest of the Enthoo Primo's SSD slots. By that time I'll probably already be started working on my next build.

That's why losing any of the available HDD bays in any computer build I have is never an option.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 1/1/14 at 1:57am
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I've found storage drives rarely need defragged.. and defragging is probably the hardest work our HDDs every do.
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

I've found storage drives rarely need defragged.. and defragging is probably the hardest work our HDDs every do.

I've found that a regular defrag takes only a few minutes to do as long as there's ~15% of available free space and they haven't become very fragmented (< 2%). Trying to playback very high bitrate HD videos (most of mine are +20 Mbps and over 20GB each) from a badly fragmented drive would be a LOT harder on a drive than any defrag would be. You literally can't play back a video without stutter if the drive is badly fragmented.

Knock on wood, but I have never ever had a HDD fail on me. Not once yet in ~30 years now of computing have I ever had a HDD fail on me before I replaced it with a newer / bigger drive, and I've been through hundreds of HDDs. I'm dating myself here, but my first computer was a TRS-80 with a 5mb HDD that cost a fortune.

I've had very few hardware failures at all. I killed a pentium D once overclocking it (it literally blew up), and I've had one stick of ram go bad once.

I attribute my relatively good luck so far to always making sure my HDDs stay defragged at all times, all my hardware is actively cooled, and everything stays plugged into an AVR UPS for clean stable power.

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Happy New Year! biggrin.gif
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 1/1/14 at 2:48am
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

lololol lachen.gif

I have three NAS with four 3TB WD Reds in each (total 36 TB) all filled to ~85% each. I can't put anything else on them or else their scheduled defrag freezes / never completes. All are RAID 0 so there's no backup of anything. The idea when I started was to have a 0 + 1 array, but I keep needing the space faster than I can buy more HDDs / NAS units. When I'm done building this Enthoo Primo I'll be adding another NAS - perhaps a bigger one this time.

My Cosmos 2 is the family room HTPC / Gaming rig, and I have 4TB WD blacks in 10 of it's 11 HDD bays (40TB) that all but the newest HDD I just added a couple weeks ago are at or slightly above 80% capacity. Even the new drive has over 1TB on it already. The 11th bay has the SSD with the OS on it.

I currently have two of the six 4TB WD blacks I'll be putting in the Enthoo Primo. I'm just waiting now for the price to drop again and I'll snag up the other four drives I need, and after that I'll be looking for the price to drop on the 1TB samsung EVOs to go with the one I already have fill up the rest of the Enthoo Primo's SSD slots. By that time I'll probably already be started working on my next build.

That's why losing any of the available HDD bays in any computer build I have is never an option.

Sounds a lot like my setup except I just have a bunch of 4tb internal drives to go with a bunch of 3/4tb external drives. One thing I also did for more peace of mind since nothing is in a raid, is sign up for an unlimited storage Bitcasa account back when it was $10 a month. Shortly after I uploaded everything(and by shortly I mean several weeks later as they had good upload speeds but it's a lot of data) they changed their pricing scheme to an ungodly rate. Thankfully I'm grandfathered in as their service speed/services are great.
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post


I've found that a regular defrag takes only a few minutes to do as long as there's ~15% of available free space and they haven't become very fragmented (< 2%). Trying to playback very high bitrate HD videos (most of mine are +20 Mbps and over 20GB each) from a badly fragmented drive would be a LOT harder on a drive than any defrag would be. You literally can't play back a video without stutter if the drive is badly fragmented.

Knock on wood, but I have never ever had a HDD fail on me. Not once yet in ~30 years now of computing have I ever had a HDD fail on me before I replaced it with a newer / bigger drive, and I've been through hundreds of HDDs. I'm dating myself here, but my first computer was a TRS-80 with a 5mb HDD that cost a fortune.

I've had very few hardware failures at all. I killed a pentium D once overclocking it (it literally blew up), and I've had one stick of ram go bad once.

I attribute my relatively good luck so far to always making sure my HDDs stay defragged at all times, all my hardware is actively cooled, and everything stays plugged into an AVR UPS for clean stable power.

Edit:
Happy New Year! biggrin.gif
Happy New Year everyone! biggrin.gif
Storage drives are basically read only so there is almost no fragging.. so no defragging needed.

My money on your AVR UPS being the biggest reason for so few problems.. thumb.gif and of course luck. tongue.gif
post #2246 of 18654
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Happy New Year everyone! biggrin.gif
Storage drives are basically read only so there is almost no fragging.. so no defragging needed.

My money on your AVR UPS being the biggest reason for so few problems.. thumb.gif and of course luck. tongue.gif

I guess it depends on what you use them for. My NAS are not used as 'storage drives'. They are media servers, constantly having older content moved/removed and new content added automatically. They must be regularly defragged or you can't even play anything from them without hiccups. A nightly defrag takes ~15 min or so, and they play everything without issues.
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post


I guess it depends on what you use them for. My NAS are not used as 'storage drives'. They are media servers, constantly having older content moved/removed and new content added automatically. They must be regularly defragged or you can't even play anything from them without hiccups. A nightly defrag takes ~15 min or so, and they play everything without issues.
Ahh yes. Adding / removing makes a difference. Especially adding downloads as the dl.
post #2248 of 18654
So got this case yesterday and ran into a couple of minor but annoying issues.
1st was that the pump bracket does not allow the alphacool d5 to mount without over hanging which makes screwing in the bracket fiddly, the width of the alphacook top means you can shift the bracket into the second position without some modding.

Next you have nice hole in the case to run from the res into the top of the pump. However if you use the res mounting bar then its just messy as you have to run the tube behind the res mounting some how.

Nice case very well built. Ive placed the 3 140mm fans as ceiling outtakes. Waiting on the g-charger 4.120mm to come going to have it on the floor in push pull. Don't know if I can get the 2.120mm in at the front yet.
Edited by EnderUK - 1/1/14 at 6:40am
post #2249 of 18654
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Originally Posted by Maverickbp View Post

It's ok. You'd be surprised to know how many tb's I have when u add up all my internal/external storage.

No I only have 1 5 1/4 bay filled and have contemplated getting a 2 5 1/4 bay to 3 3 1/2 bay adapter. However why would I need to remove the entire bottom cage? Once moved forward there should be space to route the tube from the pump to the bottom rad.

Depends on what ya install there......here's mine






Thatz the upper HD cage ya can see in the pic

But the original scenario under discussion was putting the pump mounting plate in the alternate location which even with the the pump unmounted alone requires the removal of the cages.







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Originally Posted by Gunilla95 View Post

its easy havin that many drives when you computer is gamin /server/nas at the same time rolleyes.gif
I got windows installations with PXE on my one + movie storage like 6 Tb for tv and media pc and then ofcource gaming so drives are priority for me atleast..

Mine is SOHO server .... serves as an NAS / documents archive for the office, backup depository for the Home.....has image file backups of all the PCs boot drives, as well as data backups for all and an iTunes server for everyone. But .... big difference....no movies. Well some, we get / record a movie, watch it, delete it.

I used to have a separate NAS (Infrant NV+) and loved it but really find RAID more trouble than it's worth.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/1/14 at 9:34am
911 Carrera
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel w/ EK Supremacy Cooling Block - Clean P... Asus Maximus VI Formula 2 x Asus GTX 780 DCII w/ EK Full Cover Blocks a... Mushkin Red Line Ridgeback 2 x 8GB DDR302400 10... 
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2 x SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB (2 x Seagate ST2000DX001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cach... Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blue Ray Writer 1 x Alphacool NexXxoS XT45-420 + 1 x Alphacool ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
1 x Swiftech 35x2 w/ Heatsink and NB Fan EK -MultiOption RES X3 250 White Acetal Reservoir 5 x PH-F140SP_BK_BLED + 5 x PH-F140SP_BK E22 Rigid 10/12 Acrylic Tubing and Bitspower Ma... 
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2 x Reeven Six Eyes Fan Controller Windows 7 64 Bit Professional OEM ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor Logitech G19s 920-004985 
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911 Carrera
(20 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel w/ EK Supremacy Cooling Block - Clean P... Asus Maximus VI Formula 2 x Asus GTX 780 DCII w/ EK Full Cover Blocks a... Mushkin Red Line Ridgeback 2 x 8GB DDR302400 10... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2 x SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB (2 x Seagate ST2000DX001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cach... Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blue Ray Writer 1 x Alphacool NexXxoS XT45-420 + 1 x Alphacool ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
1 x Swiftech 35x2 w/ Heatsink and NB Fan EK -MultiOption RES X3 250 White Acetal Reservoir 5 x PH-F140SP_BK_BLED + 5 x PH-F140SP_BK E22 Rigid 10/12 Acrylic Tubing and Bitspower Ma... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2 x Reeven Six Eyes Fan Controller Windows 7 64 Bit Professional OEM ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor Logitech G19s 920-004985 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic X-1250 Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate Chassis Asus RoG GX950 Laser Mouse  Logitech Z5500 
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post #2250 of 18654
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Originally Posted by EnderUK View Post

So got this case yesterday and ran into a couple of minor but annoying issues.
1st was that the pump bracket does not allow the alphacool d5 to mount without over hanging which makes screwing in the bracket fiddly, the width of the alphacook top means you can shift the bracket into the second position without some modding.

Next you have nice hole in the case to run from the res into the top of the pump. However if you use the res mounting bar then its just messy as you have to run the tube behind the res mounting some how.

Nice case very well built. Ive placed the 3 140mm fans as ceiling outtakes. Waiting on the g-charger 4.120mm to come going to have it on the floor in push pull. Don't know if I can get the 2.120mm in at the front yet.

Yeah the bracket doesn't fit an Alphacool d5 with the custom top, unless you take the metal baseplate off the pump top and screw the bracket directly into the acetal top. That's how I got mine to work anyway, and it fits like a dream now.

You really have to remove res bracket abd mouint the tube res brackets directly on the main case backplane. One you do that the hole for tubing lines up perfectly with the pump below. With my pump it was like it was made for it

As long as your front rad is less than 45mm thick, it will fit with the hard drive cages in place. Tubing however is another matter for which you have to get creative
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