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Originally Posted by Pierre3400 View Post

Plan hasnt been made 100% yet, as far as cooling parts.

But i'll be mvoing my current system into it.

Asus Maximus VI Formula
4770K
2x 7970 6Gb cards,
AX1200
Few SSD's

Cooling D5 (looking to get dual D5)
480mm Monsta with 8 GT AP15s,
420mm in the top, not sure on fans yet.
240mm in the side.

So far, all i have is the Monsta and w but load of GT AP15s.

As far as build log, i wont be making one on this site. Since I dont have sponsors i cant be bothered to post the same log in tons of places.

I have a 480 and a 420, you are likely ok with just 1 D5
post #2272 of 18675
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Coming along nicely Liqu1dShadow you have some nice mods there. I took a different route this time no major mods. The case is awesome to work with out of the box.

Have to agree, very easy to work with and not much needs changing smile.gif
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post #2273 of 18675
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I have a 480 and a 420, you are likely ok with just 1 D5

Good to know. Then why to folks use double pumps?
post #2274 of 18675
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Originally Posted by Pierre3400 View Post

Good to know. Then why to folks use double pumps?

Double would be only for the truly extreme flow needs. Radiators are not restrictive. Most restrictive thing you have are the gpu blocks. If you set them up in parallel, 1 D5 would do the job.

Although, you're at the limit I suppose of 1 D5. If you planned on adding a gpu or 2 then you would need 2.
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Double would be only for the truly extreme flow needs. Radiators are not restrictive. Most restrictive thing you have are the gpu blocks. If you set them up in parallel, 1 D5 would do the job.

Although, you're at the limit I suppose of 1 D5. If you planned on adding a gpu or 2 then you would need 2.

Would that D5 need to be at setting 5 to cope?

I have D5 - 240mm - CPU block - MoBo - 480mm - GPU1 - GPU2 - Flow Indicater - Return to Res

Was planning on having mine on setting 3
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post #2276 of 18675
Besides added head pressure, a very common reason for dual pumps is redundancy, to be able to have one still working if one fails.

One D5 can easily handle a typical loop with multiple rads and several waterblocks including 2 GPUs in series even, but if you were going to have a loop with more than an average amount of restriction, like 3 or more GPU blocks, a CPU, and maybe even mobo & / or ram blocks, then you're getting into territory where you would definitely benefit from dual D5s or perhaps a DDC instead, with it's higher head pressure, would be the better choice, with the caveat that DDCs sometimes overheat if let to run at 100% for too long (especially in a low restriction loop). The PWM DDC is a good choice in that respect, so it only ramps up when its needed to, and so is adding the optional heatsinks for DDCs that are available.

DDCs get hot, and displace most of their heat through the bottom of the pump. D5s don't really get hot, but they displace their heat into the water. DDCs have a higher head pressure, so are better in loops with a lot of restriction. D5s have a higher flow rate. Running a D5 too fast can actually cause your loop temps to go up, as there is no benefit to flow going but so fast and at a certain point all you'll be doing as adding more pump heat to the loop. There's a thread around here recently where quite a few people were surprised to find their loop temps went down - some by several deg C - after turning their D5 pump speeds down from 4-5 or 3, down to 2 or 1 even.
post #2277 of 18675
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Originally Posted by Liqu1dShadow View Post

Would that D5 need to be at setting 5 to cope?

I have D5 - 240mm - CPU block - MoBo - 480mm - GPU1 - GPU2 - Flow Indicater - Return to Res

Was planning on having mine on setting 3

I would say yes. The general target is 1 gpm, but your loop looks slightly more restrictive
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Just curious, how many of you prefer silence? Interestingly, since I got this case, I have become quite a silence freak. I'm so happy now that my rig is 1. Super quiet and 2. OC'ed to the max. Loudest thing now in my case are the stock phanteks fans which as well all know are pretty darn quiet. I generally run the AP-15's around 1000 RPM which keeps them very quiet. All this came about now that my pump is quiet too.
Silence is golden. Loudest thing in my systems is HDDs. biggrin.gif
post #2279 of 18675
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Just curious, how many of you prefer silence? Interestingly, since I got this case, I have become quite a silence freak. I'm so happy now that my rig is 1. Super quiet and 2. OC'ed to the max. Loudest thing now in my case are the stock phanteks fans which as well all know are pretty darn quiet. I generally run the AP-15's around 1000 RPM which keeps them very quiet. All this came about now that my pump is quiet too.

Silence is golden .... I love silence..... unfortunately I'm married.

My phanteks fans generally peak at about 863 rpm under Furmark (440ish at idle) ..... I have to disable fan profile to do any delta T testing .... at the lower speed, GPU temps climb to 44C .... at 1200 they are 39C. I see no advantage to the 5C


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Originally Posted by Pierre3400 View Post

Plan hasnt been made 100% yet, as far as cooling parts.

But i'll be mvoing my current system into it.

Asus Maximus VI Formula
4770K
2x 7970 6Gb cards,
AX1200
Few SSD's

Cooling D5 (looking to get dual D5)
480mm Monsta with 8 GT AP15s,
420mm in the top, not sure on fans yet.
240mm in the side.

So far, all i have is the Monsta and w but load of GT AP15s.

As far as build log, i wont be making one on this site. Since I dont have sponsors i cant be bothered to post the same log in tons of places.

I have a very similar build ....

Same MoBo
Same CPU (4.6 Ghz)
2 x 780 DCII's (+25% OC)
Seasonic X-1250
I went with the Dual 35x2 pump (lovin it too)

I think you have more than enough rad / fans

I show a Delta T of 8.4C under Furmark ..... I have a 280 + 420 with just 5 Phanteks fans in push. Now I do lose some cooling with the top filter on (4.4C) and the case on the desk (1.3C). So I'd suggest holding off on purchasing the 240 for the front till ya see if ya need it. If I can do 8.4C with my rads, your 480 should more than account for any extra heat from the 7970s and that would be with just with one fan for each rad position.... might wanna hold off on adding a 2nd in push pull and save $140 till ya see what temps ya get with just 1 fan.

As for the 420, Id recommend ya place an XT45 it with the ports to the rear .... about 1" forward of the all the way pushed back position so ya can access the top rad ports for a fill and bleed line. Can use the three phanteks fans that came with the case (top bottom and rear) for the Rad fans..... however, I chose three new LED fans like the ones in the front for the top....the original top and bottom fans got shifted to the side panel.

Keep in mind NOT to mix and match Phanteks case fans with the packaged versions, UNLESS you ask Phanteks to send you the missing vibration isolation pads for the case fans..... seems the ones in the Enthoo, at least the 1st batch shipped, don't have the pads whereas the ones ya but at newegg / FCPU do and if ya mix them, ya have a wobbly installation as the pads add 2mm to the thickness.

here's how the Phanteks fans stand up against the competition

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page7.html
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/2/14 at 1:39pm
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post #2280 of 18675
That's a good bit cooler than my r9 290x. It can peak around 56 C when mining from the gpu and cpu.

I haven't even put the side panels on yet. Just amazed at how quiet my setup really is. Now to put some casters on the bottom...
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