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post #231 of 18668
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Originally Posted by dsmwookie View Post

[...] I m still unclear, but can we run a 240 rad up front and keep the hard drive cages?. [...]

Have a look at the Phanteks 'Watercooling Possibilities' Youtube vid. You can put a 240, 280, or 360 rad of any thickness on the bottom in push/pull without removing any of the HDD cages. To put a 360 rad there will only require shifting the HDD cages to their most forward position.

I'm planning on putting an 80mm thick 360 monsta on the bottom & keeping both HDD cages, plus a 60mm 480 rad in the top, both in push/pull.
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Originally Posted by Gabrielzm View Post

I think we are in for some surprises in the final product. These delays problems meant they are using reviews out there to improve the case. For example the reservoir/vga length piece would most likely be re-done properly in the shipping units... My guess only, not an inside information. Since my system is up and running I don't mind waiting.

The thought occurred to me too, and it would be nice, but I wouldn't expect that there would be any changes/improvements to the initial shipment. At least I wouldn't want to contribute to any rumors/expectations that there would be any without anything to base that on.

However, there is a moderator on the Phanteks forum who did write there that he has suggested to his bosses that they might want to include some sort of extra something or other to everyone who pre-ordered and has been waiting. No word on whether that might happen or not.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 9/15/13 at 2:01pm
post #232 of 18668
Maybe a re-designed res bracket will ship with each case? we can only hope.... all i know is that i need this case but the delay has give me more time to plan/buy parts for the water cooling. (and wait for some one to release full water blocks for the gigabyte gtx 770....)
post #233 of 18668
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Originally Posted by ModernAfro View Post

Maybe a re-designed res bracket will ship with each case? we can only hope.... all i know is that i need this case but the delay has give me more time to plan/buy parts for the water cooling. (and wait for some one to release full water blocks for the gigabyte gtx 770....)

It would be nice if they showed up with a redesigned reservoir bracket, but it looks to me like if I had a longer card it interfered with I'd either just break out a dremel to that bracket as needed to make my card(s) fit & superglue a little uchannel molding around the cut edge, or else just mount the res to the back panel reservoir mount location or go with a bay res instead.

I'm not worried at all about that res bracket because my reference 4GB EVGA GTX 760s have a short (175mm) PCB, and the Razor Nvidia 670 blocks fit it, which will easily fit the case in sli and leave room for using that res bracket as is.

If I could pick out an extra something for my case I most want another PWM fan hub like the 2 installed on the display model the Phanteks rep had at Computex. That way I could cleanly PWM all the fans in the case, rads and all.

I wish you luck getting a waterblock for that Gigabyte GTX 770 any time soon. Your best bet would be EK, but their site says they have "no plans" to release a block for the GB 770s, but you never know. They or someone else still might at some point. Always better to get a reference pcb card if you want to be able to find blocks for it, or pick out the blocks first from what's available before buying a card.

Looks for now like I'll be going with the new Rampage IV Black Edition mobo for my Enthoo Primo when it releases next month, and then a 4930K to go in it. I just need to find out the height of that I/O bracket thing - it looks pretty tall - to make sure it won't interfere with my plans to put a 60mm 480 rad up top in push-pull.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 9/16/13 at 8:10am
post #234 of 18668
A redesigned res bracket will still not solve the problem IMO. To effectively fix the issue the res bracket mount has to be pushed towards the front of the case and that might reduce the area available in the 5.25 drive bays. The reason I say that is even if you put a res there with a redesigned bracket, there is still not enough space for the longer cards like the 770s or the 780s. Can the case we modded to accommodate this the right way, you bet you can, and I might embark on that journey. The mod will require that the 5.25 drive bays be removed, and I personally don't use them for anything. For installing an OS, a USB stick works better and way faster.

The designers might have a better idea so I will leave that to the experts, above is just how I would solve the issue.


@Unicr0nhunter - Swiftech has a nice PWM splitter, that is what I'm using in my build on the 480mm rad to control the enermax fans.

http://www.swiftech.com/8-waypwmsplitter.aspx
Edited by jassilamba - 9/16/13 at 8:19am
post #235 of 18668
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

It would be nice if they showed up with a redesigned reservoir bracket, but it looks to me like if I had a longer card it interfered with I'd either just break out a dremel to that bracket as needed to make my card(s) fit & superglue a little uchannel molding around the cut edge, or else just mount the res to the back panel reservoir mount location or go with a bay res instead.

I'm not worried at all about that res bracket because my reference 4GB EVGA GTX 760s have a short (175mm) PCB, and the Razor Nvidia 670 blocks fit it, which will easily fit the case in sli and leave room for using that res bracket as is.

If I could pick out an extra something for my case I most want another PWM fan hub like the 2 installed on the display model the Phanteks rep had at Computex. That way I could cleanly PWM all the fans in the case, rads and all.

I wish you luck getting a waterblock for that Gigabyte GTX 770 any time soon. Your best bet would be EK, but their site says they have "no plans" to release a block for the GB 770s, but you never know. They or someone else still might at some point. Always better to get a reference pcb card if you want to be able to find blocks for it, or pick out the blocks first from what's available before buying a card.

Looks for now like I'll be going with the new Rampage IV Black Edition mobo for my Enthoo Primo when it releases next month, and then a 4930K to go in it. I just need to find out the height of that I/O bracket thing - it looks pretty tall - to make sure it won't interfere with my plans to put a 60mm 480 rad up top in push-pull.


I wasnt planning on WC my build until i saw this case hence why i got the gigabyte cards and now i kick myself every time lol
post #236 of 18668
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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

@Unicr0nhunter - Swiftech has a nice PWM splitter, that is what I'm using in my build on the 480mm rad to control the enermax fans.

http://www.swiftech.com/8-waypwmsplitter.aspx

Yeah, I've eyeballed swiftech's PWM hub before - looks like they have discontinued that molex powered one and have a sata powered one now - which is a possibility, but it works with 4 pin PWM fans.

As I understand it, the Phanteks hub uses a 4 pin from the mobo to allow you to control up to 11 standard 3 pin fans. Instead of pulse modulation, it's going to do it by voltage regulation. I looked a bit and didn't find another fan hub like it. I'd like to have two of the Phanteks ones, not just to be able to run all of my fans off of them, but to be able to do the push fans of each rad on one and the pull fans off of the other, to add some redundancy in case one of the hubs fail, and to be able to stay well below their rated capacity. I've had pretty bad luck with fan hubs and fan controllers in the past.

With my planned 480 up top, a 360 below, that's 14 120mm fans right there, and add in the two 140 mm fans up front and one 140mm on the rear it'd be 16 fans in all that I'd like to have PWM-controlled. Well, maybe the front fans I'll let run at max rpm if they're not too loud like that, if just because I'd like to try to keep a positive pressure in the case with more CFM pulling in than exhausting out.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 9/16/13 at 8:38am
post #237 of 18668
Thread Starter 
I'm pretty sure Phanteks will be selling the fan hubs. In original cases at shows they had 2 fan hubs like this
post #238 of 18668
Yeah, I had seen the two hubs on the display case in the Computex vids. I would think they will be selling them separately but I've asked the Phanteks live chat person on the phanteksusa site several times about if/when they might be selling extra hubs or extra SSD brackets for the 3rd mounting location and they seemed to have no idea. They inferred that if/when any extra case components do go on sale it wouldn't happen until sometime well after the cases start shipping. Asking about it in their forums yielded no response.
post #239 of 18668
Thread Starter 
Indeed.
They are worried about giving a date and not being able to follow through... would rather wait until they are in hand than say they have them for sale. wink.gif
post #240 of 18668
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

Yeah, I had seen the two hubs on the display case in the Computex vids. I would think they will be selling them separately but I've asked the Phanteks live chat person on the phanteksusa site several times about if/when they might be selling extra hubs or extra SSD brackets for the 3rd mounting location and they seemed to have no idea. They inferred that if/when any extra case components do go on sale it wouldn't happen until sometime well after the cases start shipping. Asking about it in their forums yielded no response.

I live chatted with a phanteks rep a couple weeks ago on the very same subject, they told me additional fans would be available before the case came on sale, and that the pwm hub would be on sale not long after!

This was a few weeks ago mind, before the delay and I'm in the uk, so I'm not sure if this is still the case
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