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Originally Posted by chrisnyc75 View Post

If I'm seeing your setup correctly you have every single fan set to exhaust air OUT OF your case....which is a very extreme negative pressure setup. You're gonna want to watch out for dust inside your components, it's almost guaranteed to become a problem.

What happens in those extreme negative pressure setups is that there's such an imbalance of airflow that air enters the case through any crack or crevice it can find, most of which are unfiltered. After a number of weeks you should start seeing a buildup of dust.... in a few months it will probably become an issue. Just fyi. Keep an eye on it. All those beautiful clean lines won't look so cute covered in dust. wink.gif

p.s. reversing all of those fans would be a much better idea. That would create an extreme POSITIVE pressure situation where there's more air being pushed INTO the case than being exhausted out of it. In that case, air escapes OUT OF the case through any crack or crevice it can find, that way no unfiltered air ever enters the case at all (meaning NO DUST). If I were you, I'd paint the fan blades blood red so those colored rings don't even matter. smile.gif

What you can't soo in that pic is the 6 other 140mm fans blowing INTO the case, so I have slight + pressure as the 140mm intakes are going faster than the 120mm exhausts smile.gif

Also I have fine mesh filters over every single hole in the case, even the full back of the chassis
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post #2532 of 18687
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What you can't soo in that pic is the 6 other 140mm fans blowing INTO the case, so I have slight + pressure as the 140mm intakes are going faster than the 120mm exhausts smile.gif

Also I have fine mesh filters over every single hole in the case, even the full back of the chassis

Cool, just wanted to make sure you understood the airflow dynamics of that setup. It's a gorgeous rig, gotta keep it pristine! wink.gif
post #2533 of 18687
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That'd be awesome smile.gif thanks
Right, hope this helps!

220 x 580mm base, with a cutout that's 520 x 160mm in the middle, leaving 30mm of material all around the edges.
Doyll made mine from 9-10mm thick wood on 6 castors that raise it approx 45mm in the air.
Perfect fit for the Primo!

Apologies for my paint skills
post #2534 of 18687
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Cool, just wanted to make sure you understood the airflow dynamics of that setup. It's a gorgeous rig, gotta keep it pristine! wink.gif

Thanks smile.gif

Always have my cases + pressure, last one every fan was intake, smile.gif all fans spin off the same controller so if the 120's spin up so do all the 140's
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Hey again guys! I've just realized I was missing some fittings to get my drain loop set up so I've paused my "moving" into the new case : )

I have, however, not figured out entirely how I wish to set up my loop. I have an Alphacool 3way adapter, a bitspower valve as well as a set of bitspower quickdisconnects. What I'm thinking of doing is something along the lines of this:




But would it work? The thought is that when I wish to drain it, I simply connect the quickdisconnect male to the loop and turn the valve so that the water starts running in to the quickdisconnect tube.

Thanks guys : )

EDIT: I forgot the add the tubing to the male part of the QD, but point is that i'll have a tube there so that I can point it out of the case in a bowl or something smile.gif
post #2536 of 18687
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Originally Posted by Maldark View Post

What I was thinking about doing was to run it as push, and then use the 3 supplied Phanteks fans above it in the little fan-compartment, or the other way around. Would that be possible or?

The fans with teh case don't have the anti vibration pads..... the Phanteks fans ya buy in the box do. So ..... using the 3 case fans on one side of a 420 and 3 bought fans on the other is fine. If ya mix the two, it will be wobbly.


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Originally Posted by Maldark View Post

Hey again guys! I've just realized I was missing some fittings to get my drain loop set up so I've paused my "moving" into the new case : )

I have, however, not figured out entirely how I wish to set up my loop. I have an Alphacool 3way adapter, a bitspower valve as well as a set of bitspower quickdisconnects. What I'm thinking of doing is something along the lines of this:



But would it work? The thought is that when I wish to drain it, I simply connect the quickdisconnect male to the loop and turn the valve so that the water starts running in to the quickdisconnect tube.

Thanks guys : )

EDIT: I forgot the add the tubing to the male part of the QD, but point is that i'll have a tube there so that I can point it out of the case in a bowl or something smile.gif


I don't quite get the valve AND disconnect ..... one of either generally serves the purpose. As shown in the figure, its also appears that the drain is well above the rad so how do you "drain the rad " ?

I am more accustomed to this .... with just a disconnect ......



Or where the bottom line comes out straight towards us looking at the picture with a tee and then a valve on the branch side of the tee.


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Originally Posted by Maldark View Post

Hey guys! I'm just about to start installing stuff into my Phanteks Enthoo Primo, but there's one thing I am confused about. I've gotten an Alphacool XT45 480mm radiator for the top, but due to the .. copper screw-blocks things that closes off the fitting holes, it can't go 100% horizontal. Should I just screw in the screws although it is a bit off angle?

Here's a pic of the block things I am trying to describe:

That was one of the reasons I went with the 420 over the 480 ....they don't hit the case frame



But ya can use gaskets to give ya a lil room to even things out .... will also cut down on vibration

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17863/ex-rad-467/XSPC_4_x_120mm_Radiator_Gasket_-_3mm.html?tl=g30c429s2039

Also come in 5mm and 10mm thick sizes from Phobya

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Originally Posted by Liqu1dShadow View Post

Thanks smile.gif

Always have my cases + pressure, last one every fan was intake, smile.gif all fans spin off the same controller so if the 120's spin up so do all the 140's

I pay absolutely no attention to positive / negative pressure.....I just make sure whatever way it winds up..... intakes are filtered..... or room is smile.gif

Right now the Phanteks filters / inlet config are costing me .....to t he tune of 4C

Didn't notice it till one day I looked at my temp monitors and say the 280 dropping the water 1.3C and the top 420 dropping it 0.9C .... shuda been other way around.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 1/17/14 at 5:23pm
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post #2537 of 18687
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

The fans with teh case don't have the anti vibration pads..... the Phanteks fans ya buy in the box do. So ..... using the 3 case fans on one side of a 420 and 3 bought fans on the other is fine. If ya mix the two, it will be wobbly.
I don't quite get the valve AND disconnect ..... one of either generally serves the purpose. As shown in the figure, its also appears that the drain is well above the rad so how do you "drain the rad " ?

I am more accustomed to this .... with just a disconnect ......



Or where the bottom line comes out straight towards us looking at the picture with a tee and then a valve on the branch side of the tee.
That was one of the reasons I went with the 420 over the 480 ....they don't hit the case frame



But ya can use gaskets to give ya a lil room to even things out .... will also cut down on vibration

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17863/ex-rad-467/XSPC_4_x_120mm_Radiator_Gasket_-_3mm.html?tl=g30c429s2039

Also come in 5mm and 10mm thick sizes from Phobya
I pay absolutely no attention to positive / negative pressure.....I just make sure whatever way it winds up..... intakes are filtered..... or room is smile.gif

Right now the Phanteks filters / inlet config are costing me .....to t he tune of 4C

Didn't notice it till one day I looked at my temp monitors and say the 280 dropping the water 1.3C and the top 420 dropping it 0.9C .... shuda been other way around.

Hi there and thank you for your response, greatly appreciated smile.gif

I've got 7x AP-15 fans to use and I've just taken the included fans out although it seems like a pity to do.

The idea of the valve was to force the water to go that way, but your way seems much better as I would have to unmount the rad to empty it. Sadly the radiator in the bottom of the case is an ST30 which means there are only two connection threads on top : (

I'll look into getting one of those gaskets if I feel it is needed smile.gif

Kind regards
Edited by Maldark - 1/18/14 at 4:13am
post #2538 of 18687
Issue resolved! Took mobo back (local store) and replaced it with another MSI Z87-GD65. Zero issues loading XP, W7P and was up and running in the time it took to load the OSs. Great mobo so far. Both the Asus VI Formula and the 1st MSI Z87-GD65 remain problematic as the computer store is experiencing the same issues I did. It was simply luck of the draw on the mobos.

Now to replace the WD Raptor with a Plextor M5M PX-256M5M mSATA 256GB as the boot and continue with this build, which is mine, another for my nephew and a refurbishing of a trusty 775 (2xGTX285SC) that I can't bring myself to part with.
post #2539 of 18687
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Originally Posted by Maldark View Post

Hi there and thank you for your response, greatly appreciated smile.gif

I've got 7x AP-15 fans to use and I've just taken the included fans out although it seems like a pity to do.

The idea of the valve was to force the water to go that way, but your way seems much better as I would have to unmount the rad to empty it. Sadly the radiator in the bottom of the case is an ST30 which means there are only two connection threads on top : (

I'll look into getting one of those gaskets if I feel it is needed smile.gif

Kind regards

An alphacool ST30 has 4 inlet/outlet ports, 2 each facing top or bottom. If you're using the top-facing ones for your loop I assume you have the two copper stop plugs in the other bottom two, so if you wanted to have a drain similar to Jacks you should be able to use one of those.

For example, I have my bottom 360 in push-pull with the ports towards the front of the case and after trying many different fittings I finally found two different 90 degree rotaries that make the turn in the 25mm space that the bottom fan provides, and that let me run my drain port out one of the bottom-facing ports from my rad right next to the HDD cages like so ...

loop bottom drain port

The 90 degree fitting I'm using is this one from Phobya. It's ugly and doesn't match anything in my build, but it's hidden from view where it is and it seems much more well-built / trustworthy than the other 90 degree fitting from Koolance I found that would also work.

I tried several other 90 degree rotary fittings from Bitspower and Swiftech and Alphacool and Enzotech, & so on and none of the others I found would make the turn in less than the 25mm space the bottom fans give.

Screwed into that 90 degree fitting I have a bitspower male-to-male rotary fitting and then the Bitspower mini-valve and a stop plug.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 1/18/14 at 8:31am
post #2540 of 18687
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

An alphacool ST30 has 4 inlet/outlet ports, 2 each facing top or bottom. If you're using the top-facing ones for your loop I assume you have the two copper stop plugs in the other bottom two, so if you wanted to have a drain similar to Jacks you should be able to use one of those.

For example, I have my bottom 360 in push-pull with the ports towards the front of the case and after trying many different fittings I finally found two different 90 degree rotaries that make the turn in the 25mm space that the bottom fan provides, and that let me run my drain port out one of the bottom-facing ports from my rad right next to the HDD cages like so ...

loop bottom drain port

The 90 degree fitting I'm using is this one from Phobya. It's ugly and doesn't match anything in my build, but it's hidden from view where it is and it seems much more well-built / trustworthy than the other 90 degree fitting from Koolance I found that would also work.

I tried several other 90 degree rotary fittings from Bitspower and Swiftech and Alphacool and Enzotech, & so on and none of the others I found would make the turn in less than the 25mm space the bottom fans give.

Screwed into that 90 degree fitting I have a bitspower male-to-male rotary fitting and then the Bitspower mini-valve and a stop plug.

Thank you for your input, but my 120mm as well as my 240mm ST30 only has two ports each on the top of it :/
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