Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE
-for the time being remove the covers for slots 1-3 and easily move sensors around.
-Put a 140mm fan in slots 1-3 for the dog days of summer.
That's been addressed int he last twp pages.....a UT60 will fit 99% of the time..... however, on a good number of boards, the extra 15mm will make some things a bit "inconvenient"
1. If ya look at the Modzoo review, they swapped out the 60 for a 45mm , one reason being access to the 8 pin EPS cable .... I had the same issue on the Asus M6F.
2. It completely blocked access to the MPCIE combo card thingie
3. Made the access to the MoBo Water Block port a bit tight
4. Made access to CPU fan headers a bit tight
5. Blocked view of the MoBo LCD diagnostic panel
6. Blocked access to the voltage monitoring points.
See FAQ - http://themodzoo.com/forum/index.php?/page/articles.html/_/reviews/cases/phanteks-enthoo-primo-full-tower-review-r67?pg=8
In addition, a 480 will
a. not allow you to have the ports in the front
b. not allow you to have top bleed fill ports w/ drilling out the case
c. render the top drive bay unusable
d. not allow you to use the excellent Phanteks fans that come with the case for Rad cooling
On the other hand, a 420 will allow all of those things and it will provide more cooling capacity than a 480.
XT45-480 = 245 watts in push and 296 watts in push / pull @ 1250 rpm
UT60-480 = 251 watts in push and 303 watts in push / pull @ 1250 rpm
XT45-420 = 250 watts in push and 302 watts in push / pull @ 1250 rpm
UT60-420 = 256 watts in push and 309 watts in push / pull @ 1250 rpm
So here's an interesting comparison ..... in push / pull
The UT60-480 ($120) gives ya 303 watts in push / pull and ya gotta buy 8 fans (say $15 each) for a total cost of $240 ($0.79 per watt)
The XT45-420 ($85) gives ya 302 watts in push / pull and ya only gotta buy 6 fans (say $15 each) for a total cost of $175 ($0.58 per watt)
So for the same level of cooling:
-Ya save $65 (27% per watt)
-Ya eliminate potential issues 1. thru 6. if they apply to you
-Ya eliminate problems a. thru d.
A Monsta fits....watch Jesse and Bill's video on Modzoo. Though s 280 + 420 is just push more than enough for twin SLI and twin CF (well maybe not 290x/290) and a Haswell at 4.6GHz. As you'll note above, extra thickness does very, very little .... your delta T will be so low that the 21C air entering even a 30mm is just about at the coolant temperature by the time it exits......extra depth when the air is already close to 30C and the water's at 31C doesn't really do much.
At 1250 rpm .....
ST30-480 - 291
XT45-480 - 296 (50% more rad for +1.7% performance increase)
UT60-480 - 303 (33% more rad for +2.4% performance increase)
Monsta-480 - 318 (43% more rad for +4.9% performance increase)
Look at the 1st post and Jesse's FAQ on Modzoo, but as I recall no 240 in the front if you have a 480. And also no HD cages with a Rad and fans on the side mount. Also see page 22 on the manual.
1. FrozenCPU.com for the custom cables but they have sets pre-made in red and white for Corsair ..... can also have Lutro do them.... tho FCPU sells Lutro stuff, you might have to go direct for Lutro custom cables.
2. I have:
(5 soon to be 10) )Rad fans on one PCB
(5 soon to be 6) case Fans on the other PCB