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Just sold my beloved FT02 sad-smiley-002.gif

So i'm now running this nasty box till the Primo comes! (Mind you for £30 i cant really ask for much) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
You are just spoiled. FT02 is very nice case. Kinda like driving up in a BMW and leaving in a VW bug. biggrin.gif
October 4th cant come soon enough!
Hate raining on your parade but last I heard it's October 18th. frown.gif
post #302 of 18679
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Hate raining on your parade but last I heard it's October 18th. frown.gif

I'm still holding out hope as Overclockers UK has the eta as the 4th! But yeah, I can see it being the 18th, all depends on shipping time from the factory to the distributors, and allocation...
post #303 of 18679
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Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

Yeah, I've eyeballed swiftech's PWM hub before - looks like they have discontinued that molex powered one and have a sata powered one now - which is a possibility, but it works with 4 pin PWM fans.

As I understand it, the Phanteks hub uses a 4 pin from the mobo to allow you to control up to 11 standard 3 pin fans. Instead of pulse modulation, it's going to do it by voltage regulation. I looked a bit and didn't find another fan hub like it. I'd like to have two of the Phanteks ones, not just to be able to run all of my fans off of them, but to be able to do the push fans of each rad on one and the pull fans off of the other, to add some redundancy in case one of the hubs fail, and to be able to stay well below their rated capacity. I've had pretty bad luck with fan hubs and fan controllers in the past.

With my planned 480 up top, a 360 below, that's 14 120mm fans right there, and add in the two 140 mm fans up front and one 140mm on the rear it'd be 16 fans in all that I'd like to have PWM-controlled. Well, maybe the front fans I'll let run at max rpm if they're not too loud like that, if just because I'd like to try to keep a positive pressure in the case with more CFM pulling in than exhausting out.

Have ya looked at the ones from ModMyToys ?

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c17/s424/list/p1/b214/ModMyToys-Fan_Controllers-Multi_Fan_Ports-Page1.html

Personally, I'd love to do 420 x 60 on top and 420 x 80 on bottom both in pull only, at least initially ...one PCB controlling the rad fans and other the case fans. The FAQ says no....the H2O vid implies yes and in the video review they got the Monsta in......I decided to just wait till I have one and then see what fits.

However, we ain't heard a peep about the availability of the extra fans or PCB. I'm also curious as to how they work with Asus 1 click fan tuning.

While I'm at it .... two questions:


1. Pump Tray - Anyone have any idea as to what "fits" on the pump tray. Dimensions ? I'd need 126mm x 80mm to fit a MCP35X2 w/ heat sink
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16233/ex-pmp-195/Swiftech_MCP35x2_Dual_Pump_Heatsink_MCP35X2-HS.html

2. I was considering grabbing one of these buggers to make it easier to fill loops. Then it occured to me, why not just leave it connected. Two issues come to mind.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=31784

a) Adds an extra power cord which needs ti be snaked inside the case.
b) I'd want a fail safe shutdown in case the pump cord got accidentally disconnected....Will the PWM function perform this function adequately ?
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 9/22/13 at 9:18pm
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel w/ EK Supremacy Cooling Block - Clean P... Asus Maximus VI Formula 2 x Asus GTX 780 DCII w/ EK Full Cover Blocks a... Mushkin Red Line Ridgeback 2 x 8GB DDR302400 10... 
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2 x SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB (2 x Seagate ST2000DX001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cach... Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blue Ray Writer 1 x Alphacool NexXxoS XT45-420 + 1 x Alphacool ... 
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1 x Swiftech 35x2 w/ Heatsink and NB Fan EK -MultiOption RES X3 250 White Acetal Reservoir 5 x PH-F140SP_BK_BLED + 5 x PH-F140SP_BK E22 Rigid 10/12 Acrylic Tubing and Bitspower Ma... 
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911 Carrera
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel w/ EK Supremacy Cooling Block - Clean P... Asus Maximus VI Formula 2 x Asus GTX 780 DCII w/ EK Full Cover Blocks a... Mushkin Red Line Ridgeback 2 x 8GB DDR302400 10... 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
2 x SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series MZ-7PD256BW 2.5" 256GB (2 x Seagate ST2000DX001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cach... Asus BW-12B1ST/BLK/G/AS Blue Ray Writer 1 x Alphacool NexXxoS XT45-420 + 1 x Alphacool ... 
CoolingCoolingCoolingCooling
1 x Swiftech 35x2 w/ Heatsink and NB Fan EK -MultiOption RES X3 250 White Acetal Reservoir 5 x PH-F140SP_BK_BLED + 5 x PH-F140SP_BK E22 Rigid 10/12 Acrylic Tubing and Bitspower Ma... 
CoolingOSMonitorKeyboard
2 x Reeven Six Eyes Fan Controller Windows 7 64 Bit Professional OEM ASUS VG248QE Black 23" 144 Hz Monitor Logitech G19s 920-004985 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Seasonic X-1250 Phanteks Enthoo Primo Ultimate Chassis Asus RoG GX950 Laser Mouse  Logitech Z5500 
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post #304 of 18679
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Have ya looked at the ones from ModMyToys ?

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c17/s424/list/p1/b214/ModMyToys-Fan_Controllers-Multi_Fan_Ports-Page1.html

I don't think those MMT afford PWM control over it's own powered fan connections like the Phanteks or the Swiftech hubs do, they just split the input fan cable feed which isn't going to work for my purposes, plus I read here on a topic recently quite a few people saying really bad things about them as far as reliability. If/When I want to just split a fan cable I make my own custom sleeved cables to do that without the need for a possibly untrustworthy pcb adapter and it affords me tidier cable management.

The Swiftech hub uses the pwm from the mobo to control more 4-pin pwm fans. That won't work for me either, because all my fans are going to be 3 pin. The Phanteks hub is unique I believe, in that it uses a PWM connection to the mobo to control ~ eleven 3-pin fans.

I have already ordered fourteen 120mm (for push-pull on a 480 and a 360 rad) and one 140mm GeLid UV Blue Wings fans, all 3 pin, that should be arriving here on Tues-Wed (I also have ordered XSPC waterblocks and backplates for my GTX760s, a 4-pack of primochill rigid UV Blue tubing & UV case lighting). I could just get a fan controller for the lot of them, and the new Aquaero 6 is an eventual possibility, but for right now I'd rather just have an extra Phanteks PWM hub. I've my fingers crossed that there's at least a chance that the case will come with an extra one as a gift for those of us who pre-ordered or at least that they will offer extras for sale as soon as the cases begin shipping.

I guess what I'll do for starters is just hook up all of the exhaust fans - the 8 fans on the top 480 rad and the rear 140mm - to the PWM hub and see what leaving the intake fans - two front Phanteks 140s and the bottom 6 fans on my 360 rad - will sound like at full rpm. That, or the GeLids all come with their own bulky fan speed controls - but I don't know that they are rated for more than one fan each or where I'd have room for 6-8 of them though, or I do have some short 3 pin 12v-to-7v voltage step-down speed reducer cables from some Prolimatech fans. I dunno. We'll see what works.
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Personally, I'd love to do 420 x 60 on top and 420 x 80 on bottom both in pull only, at least initially ...one PCB controlling the rad fans and other the case fans. The FAQ says no....the H2O vid implies yes and in the video review they got the Monsta in......I decided to just wait till I have one and then see what fits.
I didn't think a 140mm series rad longer than 280 is going to fit down on the bottom. In the first monstermawd/Jesse video review they showed a hardwarelabs black ice 280 rad wouldn't even fit there and let the side panel be put on, but most other 280s should just barely fit, but that means anything longer than 280 isn't going to be able to fit past the part of the case w/ the 5.25" bay locking buttons that comes down and hides the HDD bays (has the 'Phanteks' plate on it). Unless I'm mistaken only 120mm series rads will fit behind that.

I think down bottom our choices are going to be limited to 140, 280, 120, 240, 360 or 480 rads. That's what the manual says too ...

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01
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1. Pump Tray - Anyone have any idea as to what "fits" on the pump tray. Dimensions ? I'd need 126mm x 80mm to fit a MCP35X2 w/ heat sink
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/16233/ex-pmp-195/Swiftech_MCP35x2_Dual_Pump_Heatsink_MCP35X2-HS.html

The bracket is made for a single pump. I don't think it's big enough for what you want to use it for. This is from the owner's manual ...


Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 9/22/13 at 11:16pm
post #305 of 18679
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Hardwarelabs Black Ice 280 rad is wider than other 140mm fan radiators; HardwareLabs is 153mm wide compared to EK being 146mm, ThermalChill is 142mm, Phobya is 145mm, Alpha is 144mm or XSPC at 143mm wide.

I've just asked Jesse over on TheModZoo about 420 radiators fitting. He should crawl out of bed pretty soon. biggrin.gif

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Jesse says:
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As long as its not wider than the alphacool 420, it will fit. We tested that in the first video.
So I'm asking now if 2mm more will fit. biggrin.gif
Edited by doyll - 9/23/13 at 6:32am
post #306 of 18679
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Hardwarelabs Black Ice 280 rad is wider than other 140mm fan radiators; HardwareLabs is 153mm wide compared to EK being 146mm, ThermalChill is 142mm, Phobya is 145mm, Alpha is 144mm or XSPC at 143mm wide.

I've just asked Jesse over on TheModZoo about 420 radiators fitting. He should crawl out of bed pretty soon. biggrin.gif

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Jesse says:
So I'm asking now if 2mm more will fit. biggrin.gif

That's exactly what I was saying above. The Black ice rad wouldn't fit at all because it's a tiny bit wider than others, but "most other 280s should just barely fit". However, JackNaylorPE above said he wanted to put a 420 down on the bottom. I was just pointing out that the longest 140mm wide rad that will fit is going to be a 280.

If a 280 (other than the Black Ice rad) just barely fits in there and clears the side panel, that means (like I wrote above) a 420 will not be able to "fit past the part of the case w/ the 5.25" bay locking buttons that comes down and hides the HDD bays (has the 'Phanteks' plate on it)"

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

Only 120mm series rads (360, 480) will be able to fit behind that panel.
post #307 of 18679
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What I asked Jesse was
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Jesse, will a 420 fit in the bottom?
His answer indicates to me that anything less than 144mm wide will fit. thumb.gif

Edit:
Probably requires removing the panel at front like they did in MonsterMawd video review about 29:30. About 33:10 you can see how a 420 would be able to fit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CIpoC65bpX4
Edited by doyll - 9/23/13 at 8:16am
post #308 of 18679
I don't believe that's true for a 420. I believe a 140 or a 280 rad up to 144mm wide will fit, but not a 420. There's no way that panel isn't going to be in the way.
post #309 of 18679
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I just edited my last post about that panel. biggrin.gif

I believe your are right about not clearing the panel but with panel removed it they will. Could cut panel at bottom of 5.25" bays and put the top part back in.
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If you cut that panel you'd be taking a HUGE hit on structural stability. The Phanteks designer talks about it in his interviews. The entire case with removeable/repositionable HDD trays, etc and all was built around that panel stiffening up the case.

Besides, there's nothing left to it without that panel. lol. Might as well buy any old case to put your system in if you are going to gut it to it's shell like that.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 9/23/13 at 8:30am
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