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but you can't take it with you, so why not spend it on what you love? biggrin.gif



Strong believer of that! I only got one ticket for this ride I don't know about the rest of ya, I heard this once or twice " he who dies with the most toys wins"
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Guess I just love too many things. tongue.gif
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For all the people who are trying to work out fan locations, I have tried mine 2 different ways. My set up is a 3 x 140 monsta up top, and a 4 x 120 Monsta in the bottom with 2 140's up front and a 140 in the rear. all fans are Akasa Vipers, @ 7v and the rads are both in push pull. I'm running XFire 7950's and an i5 4670k @ 4.2 on 1.015v. The case is lifted by about 900mm.

Set up 1.

Front intakes
Bottom rad intake
Top rad exhaust
Rear fan intake

My cpu temp after an hour of OCCT was an average min, 24, and an average max of, 44. The GPU's were an average of 28 min and max 48.


Set up 2 ( people on other forums have slated this way )


Front intake.
Rear exhaust
Top and bottom both intake


My cpu temps after an hour of OCCT was an average min of 24 ( the same ) but an average max of 40. GPU's were an average min of 28 ( the same ) and an average max of 44.


With set up 2 my way of thinking is, although heat rises and the top rad is intake, it is still better than the hot air coming out of the bottom rad, and then having to pass through the top rad to escape. The air outside of the case is bound to be cooler than the air in the top of the case. So my set up is all intake 1 rear exhaust. I don't like the idea of the already used air coming from the bottom rad, being used again once warm to cool the top rad. It kinda doesn't make sense.

Like mentioned, on another not to be mentioned Forum, every comment about my choice of fan/rad set up has had nothing but negative comments. I only had her up and running for a few days, before I had 2 weeks of down time, because of a rad change, so I'm going to post screen shots later, to prove to the haters my way works.

GPU results after a heaven run.

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And after a quick half an hour run of OCCT, an average of 47.

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Edited by paulyoung - 3/13/14 at 10:59am
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Your right you can't take it with you so you might as well in joy it now. This is my 6TH build and I've done a little water cooling but this time I went all out. Plus I'm going to keep this build for awhile. That why I went with EKWB. There a great company. What really cool is when new CPU socket sizes come out they make brackets for them so you don't have to get rid of CPU water block.
Edited by skywalker311 - 3/13/14 at 10:41am
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I need some info on getting a plate for my case. What I want to do is take the plate off that on the side of the case and replace it with a ROG logo. I want same size black plate but with a ROG logo cut out.
Then have a rog logo cut out in clear and red acrylic and put it on the backside of the plate with a 3mm white led to light it up. If someone know where I can get this done please let me know. Thanks.
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Thanks paulyoung, you convinced me to go all intake with my rads in upcoming build. +rep.
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Originally Posted by skywalker311 View Post

I need some info on getting a plate for my case. What I want to do is take the plate off that on the side of the case and replace it with a ROG logo. I want same size black plate but with a ROG logo cut out.
Then have a rog logo cut out in clear and red acrylic and put it on the backside of the plate with a 3mm white led to light it up. If someone know where I can get this done please let me know. Thanks.

I'm not sure I understand exactly what it is you are wanting to do, but sounds like a job for Coldzero. There's no one better at making custom plates, backplates, light panels, etc ... I've used coldzero several times now.

http://www.coldzero.eu/

You can create an account in their forum and make post in their 'product request' thread explaining exactly what you want and the dimensions for it.

http://www.coldzero.eu/forum/forumdisplay.php?60-Product-Request
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Thanks for the info. That would be great to get it done there but I'm in states. It be cheaper to find someone here to do it for me. This is what I'm trying to get done.
What I'm wanting to do is remove the phanteks face plate and get another plate the same size. Then have the republic of gamers logo cutout in the middle. Then I need the rog logo cutout in acrylic and put on the face plate then I'll add a led to light it up. Hope this explains it better. So if you guys know of someone in the US that I can get this done. Please let me know. Also here a pic of the ROG logo lite up.


Edited by skywalker311 - 3/13/14 at 1:04pm
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I'm in the US too, and I've never heard of anyone doing the kind of work coldzero does in the US for anywhere near the prices he asks. Most of coldzero's customer-base in in the US. My last order was for 3 GPU backplates, an sli bridge, and a custom-sized panel all engraved with an artwork design I created. It cost me right at 50 euro ($70) and that included 3-day shipping to the US. I know it would be a bit more for colors and an illuminated panel, but still something worth considering.

If you do manage to find anyone in the US doing this type of work, please do post a link.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 3/13/14 at 1:40pm
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Hi,

I'm a proud owner of this extremely well built and thought case. I purchased it last week and I'll be building my new machine in it. I'll go with an i7 4770K, a Hero board, 16GB of G.Skill 2400MHz ram and a 780 Ti (don't know which one right now, maybe the EVGA SC ACX or the Asus DirectCU II OC).

My main question here is: should I go the Air Cooling route or the Water Cooling one? I didn't want to spend that much money in a custom WC setup, knowing the 4770K won't probably let me go much high in clocks or voltages (I'm talking about passing through the 4.5-4.6GHz mark).

If I go with a top notch air cooler like the Thermalright Silver Arrow IB-E, what kind of performance (temperatures) should I expect from this case? Is there anyone in here with the same setup as me who chose to install an air cooler on this case?

By the way, since you are talking about positive vs negative pressure inside the case, where should I place the pre-installed fans? Should I buy more fans like the 140 AF series from Corsair?

Shouldn't it be number of intake fans equals number of exhaust fans (like 3:3)?

Should I buy additional dust filters to prevent dust from entering through the open holes at the back of the case?

Cumps



Cupla considerations ....

-At $200 the Hero is a bit overpriced ....I usually opt for the MSI GD-65 over the Hero ....same feature set, MIL Spec hardened components, better performance and I usually pay $155 - 165 for the GD

-Mushkin Redlines are the same price but have better timings than the GSkills or Corsair Vengeance (10-12-12-28 vs 10-12-12-31)
....$175ish f/////
-The EVGA SC, unlike the EBGA Classified, is simply a reference board with stock PCB and stock VRM and a pretty good cooler (which if you are going to WC, you will take off). The Asus bpard also has an excellent cooler but it has a custom PCB and significantly beefed up VRM. It's the VRM which will hit the highest temps under WC and having more phases allows it to process the same voltage while running much cooler.

You are correct in that these days, water cooling brings a much lower return on investment with Haswell's fast rising voltages as OCs increase. The Silver Arrow is a great cooler.....usually edging out the Noctua and falling just behind the Phantek's PH-TC14-PE. The air cooling setup with the delivered fans would be 3 fans blowing in (front and bottom) and 2 blowing out (top an rear). The rear fan is unfiltered so even though it will run slightly more efficient, it's not enough to offset the number advantage. Since your case will maintain positive pressure, and all fan intake inlets are filtered, you are pretty much covered on the dust front.

So leave the fans right where they are and if you are going to add fans ..... say two intakes and the side panel and two exhaust in the "attic" , you're good....could even add another on the bottom. Phanteks provides filters on all the above mentioned intakes so no need to buy more. If ya have more fans blowing out than blowing in, you won't need to buy any additional filters.

If ya water cooling, may want to consider the 780 Posiedon from Asus, now on sale in Europe, reviews have been positive.....with the major disappointment being "Why wasn't this a Ti ?.

WC is expensive ..... GPU Blocks w/ backplates run $140, CPU's $80..... 280+420 rads would run ya $160 .... $40 for an engineered coolant.... $175 for pump and reservoir....fittings / tubing etc. If ya asking will that have a ROI (Return on Investment) in the performance department I'd have to say no, not a significant one considering the cost. But it sure does have it in the aesthetics department and it is fun smile.gif.

As for adding fans, there's no better fan that I have seen than the Phanteks SP140s. In a subsequent test to the one below, an Antec fan edged it out but it had that annoying clicking sound.

http://www.silentpcreview.com/article1345-page7.html



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Also, in the for what it's worth department, with the increased threat of chemical attacks in the past 10 years or so, the US Navy implemented a policy of having positive air pressure in all Navy ships. The purpose was, in case of a chemical attack, the positive air pressure would tend to blow the chemicals out of the ship rather than sucking it in.

That's a common practice in underground confined spaces which can accumulate methane, hydrogen sulfide which interestingly enough, the concern is getting breathable oxygen in instead of those hazardous gasses out. So air is blown in from outside the space rather than sucking the bad gases out......But on a ship, I gotta wonder .... if the idea is to keep the entire ship under positive pressure..... where does the intake air necessary to maintain the pressure come from ? Big gas bomb explodes on deck .... fans blowing in get their air from ? Scrubbers capable of handling every possible gas on every inlet from a capital and operational strandpoint 24/7 would be an enormous cost.



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I know what you are talking about I've got $1500 in water cooling alone.

Going ahead make me feel bad smile.gif ..... $2,358.45 .... tho that includes about $175 in upgraded tools, $210 is cable sleeving wires and connectors ....
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 3/13/14 at 2:19pm
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