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post #3351 of 18700
You are, of course, 110% correct. Were I ever to try watercooling, and one day I shall, I think I'd feel safer buying a good quality AIO with little maintenance. I wouldn't want less than 240mm for better cooling. I've even considered Swiftech's H320 Elite, even though it's not an AIO. I'm not even sure a 360mm triple fan AIO is available.
post #3352 of 18700
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Originally Posted by Static-LNX View Post

Plus the entire reason for that AIO was to get him started with water-cooling that he can expand with more rads/blocks/pumps/reservoirs later

But....AiO are not expandable (unless you are talking about the H220/240L). Why not go with an XSPC kit in that case.
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You are, of course, 110% correct. Were I ever to try watercooling, and one day I shall, I think I'd feel safer buying a good quality AIO with little maintenance. I wouldn't want less than 240mm for better cooling. I've even considered Swiftech's H320 Elite, even though it's not an AIO. I'm not even sure a 360mm triple fan AIO is available.

I know a lot of people who feel this way, it seems pretty daunting, but almost all of the catastrophes you hear about are due to install negligence. Especially now, with fittings and hardware being much higher quality than they were just a very short time ago.

Fortunately, Swiftech makes a very high quality open loop AiO in the H220/H320, and they have a new and improved batch in a variety of sizes being released soon. Fractal has been showing an AiO prototype that has a copper/brass rad and looks to be open loop, also. There are also two other top tier manufacturers prepping open loop AiO for release later this year.
post #3353 of 18700
I was talking about the Swiftech H220 which is now installed and working flawlessly with his waterblocked 780ti. The reason I didn't get him an actual watercooling kit and opted for the Swiftech H220 is because hes 14 with barely any experience and didnt feel confident enough to not worry about it.
His temps are just above ambient at idle and go to 120's F* under full load for anyone curious.
post #3354 of 18700
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But....AiO are not expandable (unless you are talking about the H220/240L). Why not go with an XSPC kit in that case.
I know a lot of people who feel this way, it seems pretty daunting, but almost all of the catastrophes you hear about are due to install negligence. Especially now, with fittings and hardware being much higher quality than they were just a very short time ago.

Fortunately, Swiftech makes a very high quality open loop AiO in the H220/H320, and they have a new and improved batch in a variety of sizes being released soon. Fractal has been showing an AiO prototype that has a copper/brass rad and looks to be open loop, also. There are also two other top tier manufacturers prepping open loop AiO for release later this year.

The problem I've noticed, however, is Swiftech is still being held hostage by a patent dispute so their AIOs aren't available in the US. Coolermaster partnered with them to market the Glacer AIO, but while there's been talk about a 320 size, that hasn't materialized and perhaps never will. Expandability isn't much of a concern. Yet. I'm an staunch nVidia user so their GPU temps aren't a major problem at this time. Someday I may have to rethink, but if I can find a 320 sized AIO, then in all likelihood I'll take the plunge. I've always bought full tower cases because I like to have more than I really need; the same goes for an AIO.
post #3355 of 18700
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Originally Posted by Static-LNX View Post

I was talking about the Swiftech H220 which is now installed and working flawlessly with his waterblocked 780ti. The reason I didn't get him an actual watercooling kit and opted for the Swiftech H220 is because hes 14 with barely any experience and didnt feel confident enough to not worry about it.
His temps are just above ambient at idle and go to 120's F* under full load for anyone curious.

I think your idea and reasoning was excellent.
post #3356 of 18700
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The problem I've noticed, however, is Swiftech is still being held hostage by a patent dispute so their AIOs aren't available in the US. Coolermaster partnered with them to market the Glacer AIO, but while there's been talk about a 320 size, that hasn't materialized and perhaps never will. Expandability isn't much of a concern. Yet. I'm an staunch nVidia user so their GPU temps aren't a major problem at this time. Someday I may have to rethink, but if I can find a 320 sized AIO, then in all likelihood I'll take the plunge. I've always bought full tower cases because I like to have more than I really need; the same goes for an AIO.

The hostage situation will be ending very soon, and the Swiftech H320X will be available in the US, with a couple of other major players to follow with quality pre-assembled open loops. The whole patent thing is ridiculous. As much as I understand Asetek's intent, it left the consumer with a huge gap between the Swiftech pieces and CLC coolers....that isn't a step down, that is getting kicked off a cliff. It also delayed other quality pieces that are still on hold due to this. Asetek bought themselves and CoolIt another year in the sun, but I think they also gave other manufacturers another year to develop a platform that was already world's ahead of what they have.
post #3357 of 18700
That is great news! I'm waiting for the white Phanteks Enthoo Primo to become available. I have the black case so I'll go with a total new build in the white case. I'm kicking around the idea of going with the Intel i7 4930K CPU. Fortunately, I have a very understanding and supportive wife.smile.gif
post #3358 of 18700
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That is great news! I'm waiting for the white Phanteks Enthoo Primo to become available. I have the black case so I'll go with a total new build in the white case. I'm kicking around the idea of going with the Intel i7 4930K CPU. Fortunately, I have a very understanding and supportive wife.smile.gif



Are you trying to convince us ...or yourself...lol JK, I too have a wonderful woman that has not so much as to utter a word on the 6k I have spent on the first Primo, a second would only ware on my guilt LOL.
yes 6k I have two motherboards and 4 GPU's, and an AIO cooler that are packed up and put away as they didn't work out for what I was going for
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post #3359 of 18700
Guys I think I jumped the gun alil on giving so much praise to the case. Would anyone know what the easiest way to get on touch with a hardware rep for Phanteks would be? I started putting my buuld together and realized the fan hub doesn't work and one of the front led fans is doing a terrible grinding noise. I really like the case so far though. And from what I've heard so far Phanteks has goid customer support. So I am hoping they replace these items without much headache.
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Guys I think I jumped the gun alil on giving so much praise to the case. Would anyone know what the easiest way to get on touch with a hardware rep for Phanteks would be? I started putting my buuld together and realized the fan hub doesn't work and one of the front led fans is doing a terrible grinding noise. I really like the case so far though. And from what I've heard so far Phanteks has goid customer support. So I am hoping they replace these items without much headache.

http://www.phanteks.com/requestform.html
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