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I haven't seen the release date for the white one, does anyone have a confirmed date yet?
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Originally Posted by Phantatsy View Post

I haven't seen the release date for the white one, does anyone have a confirmed date yet?
Most stores don't have ETA for it at all and some others have date at the end of April / early May frown.gif I think Phanteks launched the white one way too early, it's been four months now and case still isn't in stock anywhere. There's isn't any reviews either, just some short Youtube videos. I'm very disappointed.
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That's a fair point for sure. IMO a strong magnet latch, similar to what is used on front the 5 1/4 inch bay door would have been a much better option. However I imagine there would be a reason they didn't go for that, as everything on the case is very well thought out.
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Hi,

I am about to put everything into my case. Right now I am wondering how to manage the air flow. I've seen a lot of builds with the bottom rad blowing air OUT of the case. Isn't this working agains an chimney effect? If I do so, i would only have the two front fans blowing air into the case, the back fan and the three fans on top are blowing air out as well. Any suggestions?

All radiator fans blowing in .... front fans blowing in ..... rear fan blowing out ..... if ya have fans on side panel (right), that one I am up in the air (pun intended) on. On one hand, would rather have more than one fan blowing out....on other hand, it will likely just suck out the intake air from front fans.

The case grilles provide adequate area for all air blow in to get out.


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But isn't fresh air blowing into the case bringing dust as wall? I thought the other way around, that exhausting fans would keep dust out of the case... I am sorry but now I am confused =)

Positive air pressure is not the "key" in fact it's really meaningless in the sense that positive air pressure works without inlet filters on the fan inlets accomplishes nothing. It works only because all the inlet fans generally have filters, at least on quality cases. If the filters weren't there, and on the Phanteks Enthoo they are, then yes you would be correct.... dust would be uninhibited and have a clear pathway inside your case.

With the inlet fans filtering all air coming into the case, dust has a harder time getting in.....(so does the air for that matter as it presents a very significant pressure drop across the filter.....my Deta T (Ambient air to coolant) goes up 50%, from 8.4 with no filters to 12.8C with filters).

From a case construction standpoint, putting filters on the inlet fans is much easier and practical than depending on negative case pressure and sealing all the grille openings......fans are of a consistent size whereas grilles take numerous shapes and sizes. Sometimes much is made of panel seams and drive bays but smoke testing shows this not to be a significant contributor on all but the low budget cases. The spaces framing the filters are oft themselves comparable in area to such spaces around drive bays.

So yes, unless doing some significant modding, adding filters to all grilles and gasketing any open seams, maintaining positive pressure in a case is a very worthwhile step to undertake. I have been running with both my side panels off for 5 months now and still can barely notice a finger drawn across the GPU backplate. At least in my home environment, right now once I get my sleeving done and put on the side panels, I'm leaning towards removing even the front filter (bottom and top already removed). I sometimes find dust bunnies on the steps that scare my cat, but for whatever reason, the corner of my office remains relatively dust free. So "your mileage will vary" depending upon your particular environment.

There are other issues worth considering with regard to positive air pressure one being that other fans exhausting air (think GFX cards) can get drawn right back in. Well for that matter, then looking at our argument for rad cooling always pulling in outside cooler air, why don't GFX cards employ this logic and suck outside cool air into the card and exhaust into case ? But this particular example becomes irrelevant with water cooled cards.

Another issue ya might think about, and this is something I will probably do is install a gasket around the PSU intake fan. With 14 fans blowing in and just 1 blowing out, I'm sure a significant part of the PSUs intake air is coming from inside the case. A few pieces of self adhesive foam will solve that problem. My case air temp sensor won't fit on the air intake location but I have some thermistors for the Reeven Six Eyes I can use.
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post #3434 of 18689
Hi, I'm considering the case for a new build, the radiator support is amazing. Two questions though:
1. could a 480 rad be fitted in the bottom with the fittings on the front (case)fan side?
and
2. can 2 D5s with the ek dual top fit on the pump mounting bracket in the psu compartment? Or using 2 pumps means having to go with a bayres?
Thanks!
post #3435 of 18689
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Originally Posted by 1rad3 View Post

Hi, I'm considering the case for a new build, the radiator support is amazing. Two questions though:
1. could a 480 rad be fitted in the bottom with the fittings on the front (case)fan side?
and
2. can 2 D5s with the ek dual top fit on the pump mounting bracket in the psu compartment? Or using 2 pumps means having to go with a bayres?
Thanks!

Yes to the first question, although some of the slightly wider radiators won't fit in the bottom at all. I personally have an XSPC EX480 and the fittings fit either at the front or back just fine. In fact if you're interested, I am looking to sell mine. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.
post #3436 of 18689
Hey guys here's alil more progress. Still along way to go but it's getting there. Still waiting to recieve the fan hub and led fan replacements.







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post #3437 of 18689
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Hey guys here's alil more progress. Still along way to go but it's getting there. Still waiting to recieve the fan hub and led fan replacements.








I'm waiting for the exact replacement parts mate, out of curiousity how long have you been waiting, and what replies if any have you had ?
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Originally Posted by 1rad3 View Post

Hi, I'm considering the case for a new build, the radiator support is amazing. Two questions though:
1. could a 480 rad be fitted in the bottom with the fittings on the front (case)fan side?
and
2. can 2 D5s with the ek dual top fit on the pump mounting bracket in the psu compartment? Or using 2 pumps means having to go with a bayres?
Thanks!

Not likely about the dual top on the mounting bracket. You might be able to fit but it would be a very tight fit and will involve getting rid of the mounting bracket and using the rubber feet thing from the dual top to place it there.

Mine two cents are: stay away from the EK dual top. I got it, mounted it and looked great on the drive bay, very silent but leaked very badly all over the junction of the top and bottom delrin. And yes, it was a perfect mount by the book. After dissembling and replacing with two individual tops I notice that the o-rings are not of the proper size and there is some (like 1 mm) slack on its fit on the pump/top. Right now I am in contact with Geoff and FZCPU to either get a refund or a credit on it. Let's see what EK says about it. I think someone also mention here hearing scaring stories about the dual top. I would like to hear more about that too. Is funny because I have the reservoir/pump d5 top and two d5 single tops and all are perfect, although the reservoir/top combos seems more silent that the single tops.
post #3439 of 18689
I finally got an answer from Phanteks via Message in Facebook about the release of the white Primo, for those who are waiting like me:
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Phanteks
Hello,
Thank you for contacting us. We are sorry for the inconveniences, but the White Enthoo Primo will be release around end of April. Exact dates are not release yet but we will be updating when we are sure of that date. Sorry again, please check our websites for future updates. Thank you
Sincerely,
Phanteks

So it´s official that the white Primo will be released at the end of April (or begin of May) and not like Brian from phanteks posted here or in the phanteks forum now at the end of March.

So, let´s wait another month frown.gif
post #3440 of 18689
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Originally Posted by chino1974 View Post

Hey guys here's alil more progress. Still along way to go but it's getting there. Still waiting to recieve the fan hub and led fan replacements.








Nice clean build Chino looking good. I may well switch back to front bay res/pump combo for performance but you loose the bling with it behind a closed door. There are to many 90 degree fittings to make my 250mm tube res/pump combo work which has a flow restriction penalty.

 

I'm still waiting on side panel glass and an extra fan hub. Its been 3 months now. I was told mid to late March. Now it would appear that has been moved forward again based on availability of the white enthoo primo. I suspect they are waiting on a container to clear customs or at least that's my hope otherwise we were lied to.

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