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Thanks for that explanation of PWM fan header & VV fans headers. I wonder how the fan headers on this PSU would function with the hub. (This has 4 case fan headers)

http://www.bequiet.com/en/powersupply/299

Here is the quote from the manual concerning their usage. I guess they are simply more VV headers but not sure if they operate the same as Mobo headers. This seems to use a case heat sensor to determine fan speed where a mobo header uses the board heat, which may or may not be different.
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Thermally controlled fan
be quiet! power supplies from the Dark Power P8 series offer high-precision thermal fan control. This monitoring mechanism controls the fans using the "FAN" connection on the power supply. Fan speed is adapted to reflect the actual heat levels inside the PC case and power supply. When temperatures rise, the fans automatically begin to turn faster in order to ensure quick and effective cooling within the case. The fact that cool air is generated quickly helps to improve the life expectancy of your components and the power supply itself. When connecting external fans to the power supply, please ensure that these fans do not have their own thermal sensors or potentiometers.
The fan control system generates a start-up signal. This short, high-voltage burst ensures that all the connected fans in the case will start together each time.
Important: Connect only one fan per cable.
post #3582 of 18688
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

I wuda went the other way .... the BIOS control is limited so I wuda suggested turning that off and not having them fight each other. Ya fans can spin down to a point lower than they can restart at.... for example..... they might spin down to 325 but need 350 rpm to get started so if ya set the controls yaself, that could happen. The FanXpert2 software OTOH is designed to overcome this. It will spin the fans up and down and record / display the stop / startup speeds and set the lower limit at a point where ya won't be in that no mans land territory.

Yeah, I would agree that the software is more user-friendly, and therefore preferable, but the problem is that it's designed as an interface with the bios.... so fan adjustments made in AI Suite II cause changes to the bios settings. But since the bios settings only allow a straight line (i.e. low point and high point) curve for fan control, the third point in the software curve gets lost -- or possibly conflicts with the bios settings. In other words, if I turn OFF fan control in the bios, but turn it ON in AI Suite, when I go back into the bios fan control is turned back ON (by AI Suite).

Thanks for the insight, though. I'm going to play around with it more this weekend and keep an eye on the fans. It may just be a matter of finding the rpm setting that these particular fans are happy with and leaving it at that. My cooling system is so overkill I don't think the fan curve really makes much difference anyway.
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Originally Posted by Strider49 View Post

Hey,

Thank you for this thorough explanation and for sharing those links. Thanks also to gabrielzm and Leeford for your insight. So, based on what you three said I decided I'll go with the 420 XT45 and buy some more of these Phanteks fans.

Well, before that, I have another doubt. I have been trying to decide which graphics card (780 Ti) to get for the last few weeks, and I came up with these three:

- Asus DirectCU II OC: 639€
- EVGA SC w/ ACX cooler: 645€
- EVGA Dual Classified: 679€

Initially I was all set on getting the Asus card, but now the price of the Classified went down to 679€ and it became much more appealing to me. Unlike Asus, the Classified can be 100% voltage unlocked by software, we can take off the ACX cooler without voiding the warranty (there are no warranty stickers on the cooler screws) and it has even more phases for the GPU and memory.

There is a problem though. From what I read on this thread, the Classified card cannot be installed on this case with the reservoir bracket mounted and it even blocks the top holes on the back panel Phanteks provided for mounting the res there, as you can see in this image (taken by Kurodragon): http://www.overclock.net/t/1418637/lightbox/post/21451753/id/1809184

So, what I want to ask you is: can I still mount a cylinder plexi res there on the back panel or not? Particularly, the Phobya Balancer 150 res.

Cheers

Don't have this reservoir but it looks like it would fit without problem even with the classified. But here is another idea. Keep the metal reservoir bracket (the one with the cut on it not the plastic piece) and take it to a metal shop and cut it a little bit deeper. Then you would be able to fit the classified there + the reservoir. I have a regular titan (10.5 or ~267 mm) + Ek reservoir (60 mm and still have room to spare). Your future classified thumb.gif + 50 mm reservoir will give you ~the same space occupied that I have. You will have to mod a little bit (metal shop to cut the piece deeper) and perhaps drill a few holes to align the reservoir but will look a lot better and be more functional I think. You can have an idea of the cut + drill + painting job on the reservoir bracket looking at my build log.

Also notice that Aquacomputer just released (EDIT- well, I think was released last year...) a version of their reservoirs with 50 mm width too. Some versions even have the fill level sensor in the reservoir.

http://shop.aquacomputer.de/product_info.php?products_id=3049

Hope it helps mate.
Gabriel
Edited by Gabrielzm - 4/16/14 at 10:07am
post #3584 of 18688
Yeah, it's pretty easy to extend the "notch" on the bracket an inch or two farther down just using a dremel. Many/most of us here had to do it. If you click on my pictures in my signature line the first image is a close-up of the notched-out mounting bracket in my build.
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Hey guys I plan on buying one of these cases in white. I'm currently debatng on the rad size for the bottom of the case. I currently have a nexxos xt45 480 for the top and I was thinking of getting a second one for the bottom. I was also Looking at the monsta 80mm 360.
Which would be best dual xt45 480's or a xt45 480+monsta 360?? I only have one 780ti and 4770k to cool at the moment but I plan on throwing a second gpu in there before the end of year.

Any and all help will be very greatly appreciated thumb.gif
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Originally Posted by Mr Mari0o View Post

Hey guys I plan on buying one of these cases in white. I'm currently debatng on the rad size for the bottom of the case. I currently have a nexxos xt45 480 for the top and I was thinking of getting a second one for the bottom. I was also Looking at the monsta 80mm 360.
Which would be best dual xt45 480's or a xt45 480+monsta 360?? I only have one 780ti and 4770k to cool at the moment but I plan on throwing a second gpu in there before the end of year.

Any and all help will be very greatly appreciated thumb.gif

Rad size > rad thickness
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Originally Posted by Mr Mari0o View Post

Hey guys I plan on buying one of these cases in white. I'm currently debatng on the rad size for the bottom of the case. I currently have a nexxos xt45 480 for the top and I was thinking of getting a second one for the bottom. I was also Looking at the monsta 80mm 360.
Which would be best dual xt45 480's or a xt45 480+monsta 360?? I only have one 780ti and 4770k to cool at the moment but I plan on throwing a second gpu in there before the end of year.

Any and all help will be very greatly appreciated thumb.gif

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Rad size > rad thickness

^this

You can have a look here with some interesting numbers:

http://martinsliquidlab.org/2012/04/12/alphacool-nexxxos-ut60-360-radiator/4/

If you are set on having rad top and bottom only then why not a 480 ut60? You would have space for push/pull on that. But notice that you will have to take the rad support from the bottom of the case which only supports up to 280 mm. You can always add another 240 mm rad up front which would allow you to keep the HD bays if you place a 280 mm bottom. Going the 480 mm route will not allow you place any rad up front (perhaps a 120 mm only).
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Thread has been given well deserved [Official] status. thumb.gif  
Thanks Twerk.


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FYI
Phanteks Enthoo Primo Club is in 26th place of all case threads here. Not bad for a thread started 8/14/13. .thumb.gif
Some of those ahead of us were started 2008. tongue.gif

There are only two started in 2013 with higher post count. We have 3,588 posts, 750D has 3,833 (9/18/13) & 540 has 6,174 (6/28/13)..

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