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I'm planning on doing the exact same thing as you guys
Got a 280 Monsta for the bottom, and a 240 xt45 for the front, and then waiting till I get the case so I can measure up for the top rad. I know a 420 xt45 will fit in push pull, but there may be a possibility that a ut60 in push pull will fit with my motherboard

I have oft wondered about the value of water cooling in the Haswell era. If it was just for performance improvements, I thiink most of us recongnize it can never be justified from a cost / ROI stand point. And, after reading this.......

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7363/the-neophytes-custom-liquid-cooling-guide-how-to-why-to-what-to-expect





.... while I think that builder of that system could have made better choices, what I think I'm gonna do is build the thing on air (w/ Phanteks PH-TC14-PE) ..... and then do the rest of the build (water cooling) over XMas-New Year holidays. This way I'll have plenty of time to take measurements, evaluate options and no down time on the PC.

Hopefully I will have better results smile.gif .
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/9/13 at 12:44pm
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post #522 of 18678
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First week of November is about right.. assuming no ship doesn't break down and customs doesn't hold them up.

Oh god please don't put those ideas in my head!
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

I have oft wondered about the value of water cooling in the Haswell era. If it was just for performance improvements, I thiink most of us recongnize it can never be justified from a cost / ROI stand point. And, after reading this.......

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7363/the-neophytes-custom-liquid-cooling-guide-how-to-why-to-what-to-expect





.... while I think that builder of that system could have made better choices, what I think I'm gonna do is build the thing on air (w/ Phanteks PH-TC14-PE) ..... and then do the rest of the build (water cooling) over XMas-New Year holidays. This way I'll have plenty of time to take measurements, evaluate options and no down time on the PC.

Hopefully I will have better results smile.gif .

I saw that anandtech review, I think he did need more rad area and something didn't seem quite right about the temp/noise ratio

If I get results like that I'm definitely going to look at delidding and then either using the naked mount for my eupremacy or using CLU and re-seating the IHS, either way though, my GPUs are quiet and I can clock them high!
post #523 of 18678
Did ya see the weisenheimer comment (page 6" .... well to my reading it came off as rather snarky ... where the dude said 100 sq mm per 100 watts
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As a rule of thumb systems i sell as silent have !at least! (100mm)² radiator area per 100 Watts of expected maximum thermal output.

For a 4770k and twin 780s ..... I'd say 150 for the CPU and 300 per for the 780s .... would be 750 watts and by his formula..... 750 mm² ..... well a single 120 x 120 is 14,400mm²

I think what he meany was 100 x 100 or 10,000 mm² or actually 100 mm² per watt

750 watts x 100 mm² = 75,000 mm²

100 x 100 = 10,000
120 x 120 = 14,400
140 x 140 = 19,600

So using the corrected value....

w/ 120 mm fans, ya'd need a total length of 625 mm (240 + 360 = 600 .... 480 + 240 or 360 + 360 = 720 or 115% of minimum using his corrected formula)
w/ 140 mm fans, ya'd need a total length of 535 mm (280 + 280 = 600 .... 420 + 280 = 700 or 131% of minimum using his corrected formula)

That seems in the ballpark .... and fits nicely in the Enthoo
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post #524 of 18678
have any of you guy preordered the case from overclockers uk? got a red warning at checkout after typing in the security line from my bank which stated that they couldn't go through with the payment, but i checked my account and it says it got through in the process of getting charged frown.gif what could i do?

the other orders i did;

and



cant wait for the new parts biggrin.gif
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post #525 of 18678
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I been following ya post because I'm looking at similar set up.

For the top 140 x 420 (provides 58,800 sq.mm vs 57,600sq mm for the 120 x 480 and allows me to use Phantek's fans) , haven't decided wither to use a UT 60 w/ one set of fans or XT45 with two. Will wait till I have case and MoBo installed before taking final measurements and see just what clearances are there with the Asus M6F. For the bottom, I'm leaning to a 140 x 280

But what still has me curious on ya plan there is how ya gonna fill and bleed that thing.

Well, since you asked, it's going to be kind of hard to explain what I'm thinking, but I'll try.

I currently have two ways I'm planning on setting it up for filling/ draining. How I would most like to be able to set it up will be a very tight squeeze and I won't be able to tell until after the case & res gets here, and it's going to come down to a few mm's whether it will fit or not, and my backup plan I ought to be able to make fit regardless. In either way I want to set it up I'll be adding multiple fill ports, and one drain port. The reason for multiple fill ports is so I can fill up not just the res, but most of the loop by having them both open one will allow air to escape while I fill the other. The only thing that will vary should be where I'll be able to attach the one fill port to the res.

Here's how I most want to do it ...

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

I'll start with what will be the same either way.

For fill port 'A' in the image above I plan to cut a hole in the top panel of the case directly above one of the XT45's top-facing inlet/outlet ports so I can fit the port with a 15mm G1/4 male to female extension and a cap ...

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

For the drain, 'C', I will be doing the same thing, adding a capped 15 to 25mm extension to the drain port on the end of the monsta that will protrude through a hole I will cut in the back of the case for it. I believe that port will line up somewhere in the vented removable panel for a 2nd PSU or thereabouts ...

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

Fill port 'B' is what will be tricky. Ideally, I'd like to be able to attach a piece of flexible hose to the fill port in the top of the res and snake it up beside the rad to mount a fill port in the top of the case. The thing is, given Jesse's measurements it looks like if I want to go with that 270 Photon D5 combo I'll only have 20mm to 25mm or so space left over betweens my rads/fans, so I'm not sure I'll be able to fit it. If I can I'll be using xspc's fill port M20 to G1/4" adapter and Koolance's 90 deg low profile rotary elbow that's only 17mm, and fitting a barb & hose onto that.

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

And, if it turns out, as I suspect it will, that there's not enough room to mount a hose to the top of the res, then I'll route that fillport down the side of the res to one of the two input ports, like so ...

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01

LEAD Technologies Inc. V1.01
post #526 of 18678
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have any of you guy preordered the case from overclockers uk? got a red warning at checkout after typing in the security line from my bank which stated that they couldn't go through with the payment, but i checked my account and it says it got through in the process of getting charged frown.gif what could i do?

the other orders i did;

and



cant wait for the new parts biggrin.gif

I have had mine on preorder with OCUK since August 21st!
Best thing to do is to ring them and check the status of the payment, they're very good with customer service.
One thing i will point out, they have a naugty policy with regards to payment. They fully charge your account at time of ordering, rather than at time of dispatch like ALL other retailers would do.
One orders that are in stock its not too bad, as they dispatch same day but for preorders it sucks.
Case in point, I have paid £300 for my case and 7 extra fans order, but have yet to get the case delivered obviously.

Rang OCUK, they would be happy to cancel my order and refund the money, but then of course I would lose my place in the preorder queue.
post #527 of 18678
Hmmm, I guess I overloaded it with my post above because it won't let me edit that post at all. I was trying to add this image I forgot showing where I plan to be able to add the fill port going to the res in the top of the case next to the rad/fans. For this one, instead of just capping off an extender like the others, I'll be using an actual pass-through fill port adapter with a barb for the flexible hose going to it (the rest of my loop will be rigid acrylic tubing).



Looking at that image may be a bit deceiving, but from looking at it from different angles from above and below in some of the review vids I'm all but positive there will be enough room to run a hose up behind the rad and mount a fill port there somewhere. Worst case I figure that I might have to get a little crazy with a dremel, but I'm confident it will happen. biggrin.gif
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/9/13 at 3:01pm
post #528 of 18678
@Unicr0nhunter, It might be easier to just remove the fan right above the fill port, that might give you just enough space to put in a 90 degree barb fitting, and then fill in the res. Little advice with the Photon res, it fills better if the res is at an angle, so just raise one side of the case a bit. If you dont tilt the res, the flow channel gets blocked and fluid stops flowing.
post #529 of 18678
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I have had mine on preorder with OCUK since August 21st!
Best thing to do is to ring them and check the status of the payment, they're very good with customer service.
One thing i will point out, they have a naugty policy with regards to payment. They fully charge your account at time of ordering, rather than at time of dispatch like ALL other retailers would do.
One orders that are in stock its not too bad, as they dispatch same day but for preorders it sucks.
Case in point, I have paid £300 for my case and 7 extra fans order, but have yet to get the case delivered obviously.

Rang OCUK, they would be happy to cancel my order and refund the money, but then of course I would lose my place in the preorder queue.

Aw have to check again tomorrow then mad.gif do you know if they have a land line or if they use cellphones?

Ringing from norway could be a expensive affair but we have it free as long as it is to landlines smile.gif
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Aw have to check again tomorrow then mad.gif do you know if they have a land line or if they use cellphones?

Ringing from norway could be a expensive affair but we have it free as long as it is to landlines smile.gif

Yes its a central landline, but its a business number so it may be best to check before you call
Number is +44871 200 5052 FYI
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