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Great sheet mate, and the key factor that jumps out is FANS. fans make a lot of difference when it comes to performance on a radiator. And yes adding thickness does not add much to the cooling, but adding length does make a difference.

With that said, and a case like Enthoo, the bottom screams to have a monsta rad installed. Anything else will look out of place.

Feel free to add / use / link it to your FAQ .... my biggest worry though is just how much extra cooling can we expect from push / pull ...... that 21% figure is based upon the 9.2C to 7.6C drop which is 21% temperature wise but does it hold up watts wise ? .... I dunno

But while the Monsta certainly looks impressive, I wanted to use the opening thru the PSU wall for the tubing.... and I believe the Monsta blocks that in push pull. With the Enthoo's fans .... we picking up just 10 extra watts of cooling over a UT60 280 (216 versus 206) ....so looks aside, I dunno whether 10 watts is worth losing that access opening.

With 145 for an OC'd 4770k, 275 (estimated*) each for twin 770s and 40 watts for MoBo VRM and MOFSETS , I'll need 735 watts of cooling . Options, assuming my calcs are correct:

Top @ 1250 rpm
1. XT45-420 in push / pull (309)
2. UT60-420 in pull (262)
3. XT45-480 in push / pull (296)

Bottom @ 1250 rpm
4. UT60-280 in push / pull (206)
5. Monsta 280 in push / pull (216)
6. UT60-480 in push / pull (244)

The Monsta on bottom only gives me an extra 10 watts....the 480 on bottom gives me only 38 watts and kills the cage area. Since 1 and 4 only give me 515 watts (220 short), I can either go to 1800 rpm where 1. becomes 295 and 4 becomes 443 (738 total).....or add a front 240 Rad..... (Neither Phanteks site, manual nor Modzoo indicates a thickness limitation here) but looking at the video (which shows HD cages left in place) it looks like routing the tubes would be a PITA.... (not that I need bottom cage).

Jesse questions:

A. What is the space between the Front fans and HD cages ? (Looking to see what rads or rads + 140 x 120 Shrouds would fit)
B. Can the Top and Bottom fans be moved to the side ? I know Rad can't go there w/o losing HD cages bit looks like fans will mount. Buying 10 new 1800's would at least allow me to still use the two 140mm Phanteks fans for case cooling.

One thing I just noticed. The Enthoo doesn't have the usual round grommeted case rear cutouts for external rads .... was considering and external Rad (3 x 3 x 120) w/ four 180m fans but then lookd at the rear pic and was surprised they weren't there.

*Anyone have a source for calculating TDP of overclocked GFX cards ?

Edited to add MoBo wattage
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/11/13 at 1:03pm
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Read that....still don't get it..... he is correct when he ways you need to be able to twist it ..... buy ya only need to twist one end. In the instances I have given, you have one end free..... most times it sits in a drawer. You certainly can use standard Bitspower compression fittings with rigid tube ..... they say so in the article you linked to and here's an example:

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33364-Maximus-VI-Formula-Show-Casemod-MbK

And these have the same ends as all the other Bitspower fittings:

Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Male w/ Inner G1/4 (BP-MBQDMIG14)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17966/ex-tub-1636/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Male_w_Inner_G14_BP-MBQDMIG14.html

Bitspower Matte Black Quick-Disconnected Female w/ G1/4 Thread (BP-MBQDFG14)
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/17965/ex-tub-1635/Bitspower_Matte_Black_Quick-Disconnected_Female_w_G14_Thread_BP-MBQDFG14.html

On the drain, the male end is connected to your rigid tubing..... the female end is connected to cupla feet of flex tubing and sits in a drawer until ya wanna drain. When ya wanna use it, just twist the female end on and off ....as the free tube can rotate with the QD fitting, should be no problem.

On the fill end, the male end is connected to your rigid tubing..... the female end is connected toa 90 bend and sits in a drawer until ya wanna fill. When ya wanna use it, just twist the female end on and off ....as the 90 degree fitting can rotate with the QD fitting, should be no problem.
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For those planning a new 1150 build once the Enthoo ships, just got word from Indigo Xtreme .... their new Precision Engineered Thermal Interface (ETI) for 1150 socket CPUs will start shipping in about two weeks .... they just waiting to complete instructions and documentation.

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c127/s1707/list/p1/b174/Indigo_Xtreme-Thermal_Interface_Materials-Indigo_Xtreme_ETI-Page1.html

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Newegg just updated the release date for the Enthoo Primo. one week from now. Since it was as today the 14th of October looks like this time is for real?


I can only wish...Snorkle.gif
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

For those planning a new 1150 build once the Enthoo ships, just got word from Indigo Xtreme .... their new Precision Engineered Thermal Interface (ETI) for 1150 socket CPUs will start shipping in about two weeks .... they just waiting to complete instructions and documentation.

http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l3/g/c127/s1707/list/p1/b174/Indigo_Xtreme-Thermal_Interface_Materials-Indigo_Xtreme_ETI-Page1.html
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Does this roundup pre-date CooLabs Liquid products? Also, if it was on their, wouldn't it be between Indigo Xtreme & everything else?

(I love indigo extreme, but damn is reflow a nerve wracking pita)
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Newegg just updated the release date for the Enthoo Primo. one week from now. Since it was as today the 14th of October looks like this time is for real?


I can only wish...Snorkle.gif

Wait so they say they are releasing the 14th?because that's still sooner than anything from Phanteks themselves... Unless they ship out tomorrow or Saturday, Newegg would have the same release/ship date?
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Newegg just updated the release date for the Enthoo Primo. one week from now. Since it was as today the 14th of October looks like this time is for real?

I can only wish...Snorkle.gif

I ordered it.......can't keep bothering Jesse asking for dimensions.

BTW, anyone have any good suggestions on RAM sources for my Enthoo build ? ..... Seems newegg is out of almost everything above 1866.

After reading this:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7364/memory-scaling-on-haswell

Based upon their testing, It seems anything from 2666 on up not only offers diminishing returns but actually performs worse than 2133 / 2400 in many cases. Their pricing page also shows little price difference between 1600 and 2133 / 2400..... tho I'm remembering pre-fire 1866 @ $130 .... now $165 ish .... 2133 is in $190-$220 category and 2400
I'm leaning towards either "

Mushkin Redline
9-11-11-28 ..... 9/2133 x 1000 = 4.21 (1.65)
10-12-12-28.....10/2400 x 1000 = 4.16 (1.65)

Cosair Vengeance Pro
11-11-11-27.....11/2133 x 1000 = 5.16 (1.50)
10-12-12-31.....10/2400 x 1000 = 4.16 (1.65)

Corsair Dominator Platinuim
9-11-11-31.......9/2133 x 1000 = 4.21 (1.65)
10-12-12-31.....10/2400 x 1000 = 4.16 (1.65)

Mushkin has the slight spec edge with the last timing. Not decided on whether to do 16 GB or 32 as yet. Don't need 32 but was thinking of using most of it utilizing the RAMdisk feature on the Maximus VI Extreme.
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Does this roundup pre-date CooLabs Liquid products? Also, if it was on their, wouldn't it be between Indigo Xtreme & everything else?

Dunno ....skinnelabs been down for quite a while,now. Everything I found on CoolLabs was 2010 and earlier.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/10/13 at 9:57pm
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Wait so they say they are releasing the 14th?because that's still sooner than anything from Phanteks themselves... Unless they ship out tomorrow or Saturday, Newegg would have the same release/ship date?

Earlier yesterday I check and was still marked releasing 14/10/2013. Latter that day they updated the site to 17/10/2013. So...If they bother to update the site and for just a few days ahead (14 to 17) seems like they might get the case soon...Any news from Phanteks people (those who order from them)?
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Earlier yesterday I check and was still marked releasing 14/10/2013. Latter that day they updated the site to 17/10/2013. So...If they bother to update the site and for just a few days ahead (14 to 17) seems like they might get the case soon...Any news from Phanteks people (those who order from them)?

Phanteks has not tried contacting me about my preorder since the email notification went out on Sept 13 letting us know that their scheduled ship date had been moved back to Oct 18. I asked about it 7 days ago in their forum and the Phanteks rep/moderator there said as far as he knew Oct 18 was still the day and assured us that those who had pre-ordered the case through them would be the very first cases to ship before they got sent to retailers like Newegg.

Newegg seems to just be jumping the gun with their availability date. (on purpose?) They went from Oct 14 to now saying Oct 17, which is still before Phanteks has said they will begin shipping them out. Unless they know something we don't (which with them moving their date back makes me suspect they don't) the Oct 18 date seems the safest bet so far.
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