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That spreadsheet is awesome, I rep'ed you for that.

Who else is getting excited?? I think I have read almost every review, watched every video, and I still am not sure how I will build mine. I have 3 radiators on hand: 1 swiftech 360 xp, 1 XSPC RX240, and 1 swiftech 120 xp. The CPU is the only thing in the loop at the moment, but when they release the EK block for the 780 lightning I will possibly get one. So I thought I would do the 360 up top in push pull, the thick rx 240 in pull (intake) on the side bracket, and if it fits with the stock 140mm fans mounted in the bottom, the single 120mm rad in the bottom side (or not use it at all, I would like to put it in somewhere). My goal is to still use all the stock 140mm fans that are included. Also will have a D5 pump in a dual bay res, XSPC raystorm block.

If I mount it all like I am thinking, the outlet on the CPU block will need to wrap through the top left grommet. Is there adequate room for a push pull rad up there (thin) with 1/2" tubing next to it?
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Originally Posted by Hereisphilly View Post

Does anyone know the cooling difference between a 420mm ut60 and an xt45 if both are in push pull?

I'm waiting till I get the case to measure up to see if the thicker rad will fit with my mobo, but I suddenly thought, if I ever change my mobo, I don't really want to have to check if it will fit, so if the cooling perfromace is similar, then I might aswel just buy the xt45.
I'll be running the fans at low rpms too

There's a spreadsheet ya can download in post 546 which gives estimated wattages......estimated from martins tests on the 360mm jobs and adjusting for areas......21% added for push / pull.

Bottom rad
280mm Monsta w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 216 watts
280mm UT60 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 206 watts
280mm XT60 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 201 watts

280mm Monsta w/ 1800 rpm fans = 282 watts
2800mm UT60 w/ 1800 rpm fans = 295 watts
280mm XT60 w/1800 rpm fans = 309 watts

Top rad
420mm Monsta w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 302 watts
420mm UT60 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 309 watts
280mm XT60 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 325 watts

420mm Monsta w/ 1800 rpm fans = 423 watts
420mm UT60 w/ 1800 rpm fans = 443 watts
420mm XT60 w/1800 rpm fans = 463 watts
How does a 60mm 280mm sized rad cool more than a 60mm 420mm rad? headscratch.gif
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How does a 60mm 280mm sized rad cool more than a 60mm 420mm rad? headscratch.gif

Typos. The top two grouping were 280s .... the bottom two groupings were 420.....and there is no such thing as a XT60 ....shuda been XT45. I also reveres the wattage order in the last 3 groupings as I did the spreadsheet lowest to highest and did the post highest to lowest and lost track. Thanks for noticing .... all fixed now.(I hope) ..... spreadsheet is right tho smile.gif
Quote:
420mm Monsta w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 302 watts
420mm UT60 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 309 watts
280mm UT45 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 325 watts

Shuda been
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420mm Monsta w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 325 watts
420mm UT60 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 309 watts
420mm XT45 w/ Phanteks 1250 rpm fans = 302 watts

Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/17/13 at 1:54pm
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post #675 of 15970
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That spreadsheet is awesome, I rep'ed you for that.

Who else is getting excited?? I think I have read almost every review, watched every video, and I still am not sure how I will build mine. I have 3 radiators on hand: 1 swiftech 360 xp, 1 XSPC RX240, and 1 swiftech 120 xp. The CPU is the only thing in the loop at the moment, but when they release the EK block for the 780 lightning I will possibly get one. So I thought I would do the 360 up top in push pull, the thick rx 240 in pull (intake) on the side bracket, and if it fits with the stock 140mm fans mounted in the bottom, the single 120mm rad in the bottom side (or not use it at all, I would like to put it in somewhere). My goal is to still use all the stock 140mm fans that are included. Also will have a D5 pump in a dual bay res, XSPC raystorm block.

If I mount it all like I am thinking, the outlet on the CPU block will need to wrap through the top left grommet. Is there adequate room for a push pull rad up there (thin) with 1/2" tubing next to it?

Keep in mind that he spreadsheet is all extrapolation....only real data is the 360.

It stands to reason tho....

1. 240 will be roughly 2/3 of a 360 .....etc
2. 140mm Rads are slightly under reported due tot he fact that no accounting was made for smaller motor "dead spot'

If ya buy all new Rad fans, the provided fans top and bottom fans can be installed in the side bracket...ya can thank Jesse for answering my question on that.

Lightning is a long bugger at 11.61" .... gonna fit it in there ?
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For those wondering how much space they have to install fan controllers, would say you have about 10mm of clearance with the door closed. I had a NZXT sentry laying around and used that for comparison. The door has can filed on the inside if you have a device that wont let the door close flush.

1. The Good news ......

A. Reeven Fits - Just re-watched the review of the Reeven (slide to 4:45 mark). The knobbies are "push to use" ....they flat against case front when door is closed .... press and they pop out to adjust ....push back in, they stay in ....door closes..... waaaay cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQcjxB9GMWY

B. Reeven's available - Got an e-mail from Bucky @ FrozenCPU today...... "The Reeven has landed"

http://www.frozencpu.com/search.html?mv_profile=keyword_search&mv_session_id=AbWroxX8&searchspec=Reeven&go.x=0&go.y=0

C. RAM Grab Possible - I may have found me some 2400 CAS 10 memory


2. The Bad news ....

A. Losing the Bracket - Just noticed that Phanteks doesn't list my MoBo as compatible. frown.gif .... The M6F's 2nd GFX slot is lower than most boards as they leave a slot width for extra space between for cooling .... just like in Jesse's build so looks like I'll lose the bracket altogether. Well at least I don't gotta worry about card length anymore smile.gif

Feedback please on these options:

a. Remove the rear fan and mount externally ....install Aqualis Pro or XSPC photon on rear wall. Since I don't have fancy EVGA SLI Badge, wanna hide that thing anyway smile.gif

b. As above but on back side of HD cages or 5.25 bays (would hide what bracket supposed to hids

c. Mounting a Photon horizontally above the 280 rad on the bottom ? ***** to bleed but problems other than that ?

Reservoirs wont have pumps to deal with as the 35x2 will be mounted under you HD cage (lower one removed). I like the Aqualis and Photon cause they only 2 I know of not made of acrylic. But they do look like a PITA to do rigid tubing with with the inlet / outlet so close.

Alternate ideas welcome.

B. Availability - Newegg has gone into NSA mode on the Enthoo ... now says "sold out" and customer service isn't talking.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/17/13 at 10:14pm
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post #677 of 15970
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Keep in mind that he spreadsheet is all extrapolation....only real data is the 360.

It stands to reason tho....

1. 240 will be roughly 2/3 of a 360 .....etc
2. 140mm Rads are slightly under reported due tot he fact that no accounting was made for smaller motor "dead spot'

If ya buy all new Rad fans, the provided fans top and bottom fans can be installed in the side bracket...ya can thank Jesse for answering my question on that.

Lightning is a long bugger at 11.61" .... gonna fit it in there ?

Not with the reservoir bracket. I already knew that was an issue.
post #678 of 15970
Wait so 140mm included fans will fit in the side rad bracket? I thought I was sized for 120mm
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Wait so 140mm included fans will fit in the side rad bracket? I thought I was sized for 120mm

http://www.phanteks.com/Enthoo-Primo.html

Specs Tab

140mm fan - Side - 2x

I won't fit a 140mm rad.... but it does fit 140mm fans
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Frozencpu is now taking preorders for the case, it 's 26 ordered already they have included a free giftpack with the preorder thumb.gif
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