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Originally Posted by Hereisphilly View Post

Same! I've got 1/2" advanced in white, I didnt know you had to flush it?

There's some that don't, the first round of it I bought I didn't flush it. I had a little bit of plasticizer in the tubing. Figured since I have all my loop components outside might as well run the cleaner. Mine is the yellow 1/2" tubing to match my msi board and 780 lightning.
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Originally Posted by bond32 View Post

There's some that don't, the first round of it I bought I didn't flush it. I had a little bit of plasticizer in the tubing. Figured since I have all my loop components outside might as well run the cleaner. Mine is the yellow 1/2" tubing to match my msi board and 780 lightning.

Ah yeah I remember! Cool, do u know where I can find out if I need to flush mine?
Is yours quite stiff? Mine is ridiculously stiff!
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Ah yeah I remember! Cool, do u know where I can find out if I need to flush mine?
Is yours quite stiff? Mine is ridiculously stiff!

Yeah mine is stiff. The stuff came with mine, I ordered the retail box 2 meter. Not sure where you could get some, you may be able to flush it with just distilled water.
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Yeah mine is stiff. The stuff came with mine, I ordered the retail box 2 meter. Not sure where you could get some, you may be able to flush it with just distilled water.
Ahh cool, I can see bending it being interesting
Naah, I just got a 3 metre length from specialtech, so I think I might just wash it out with distilled water, best I can do really isn't it?
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Looking at the water block roundup on xtremereviews, rotating the supracy 90 degrees ccw does improve temps, so I'm going to go for that

I have the copper base and clean black acetal top variant, I got a very good deal on it, it looks great and all my other blocks and rads are copper, so I wanted my nimise the use of nickel wherever possible



I'll go peek..... I'm also down for the copper ..... thought about the gold .... was like $16 price difference, but adding naked ivy kinda wastes that.

Haven't decided on the top yet......Plexi or solid copper. I notice that there are two versions of each type, I'm opting for the CSQ version (no circles).
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For GPU paste, my 680s have some reistors or something around the edge of the die, therecore I wanted to use a non conductive Tim
I have a big tube of Arctic mx-4, so I'm just going to use that for the GPUs, and the bundled gelid GC extreme for my bare CPU die

The GeLid did very well in this massive 80 way test .... but it's 4.5 years old .... ranks right up there with ShinEtsu 751 which is what I have used primarily last few over the years. I highly suspect MX-4 and TX-4 are the same thing

I am kinda surprised that there are no full copper GU blocks, at least that I have found

http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=150&Itemid=62&limit=1&limitstart=12
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Tuniq TX-3 (0) Aluminum Oxide Moderate 37.65°C A+
Gelid GC-Extreme (0) Aluminum Oxide Low / Thin 37.65°C A+
Thermaltake Grease A2150 (4) Polysynthetic Silver Low / Thin 37.65°C A+
Arctic Silver 5 Polysynthetic Thermal Compound (4) Polysynthetic Silver Low / Thin 37.55°C A+
Shin-Etsu MicroSi G751 (0) Aluminum Oxide Moderate 37.55°C A+

(0) No Curing Time or Special Application Suggested
(4) Arctic Silver 5 Application Instructions (up to 200-hours recommended curing time)

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post #746 of 18654
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Waiting patiently for this case! So while im waiting was thinking about rinsing out my new Rads and waterblocks,do u guys think they will get rusty if i clean them out and they sit a week before they are installed?

Could leave filled with DW if ya worried.
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That's exactly how I'll be doing my fill ports, as I had posted some many posts back now. I'm actually planning on putting one for each of the top-facing ports on my 480 rad, as I suspect it will be easier to fill if I have one port for filling and one to let air escape out of. I have a klein knockout punch set so I suspect it won't be too hard for me to put a couple clean 1" holes wherever I want them for these .8" ID grommets:
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/4328/ele-229/PVC_Rubber_Grommet_-_08125_ID_Hole.html?id=5BLerN5a&mv_pc=102
Though you could probably do holes just as well with a hole-saw drill bit if you're careful to use painter's tape, drill a pilot hole, etc.

I was planning on the fill port bulkhead fitting with screw in plug originally

http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10364/ex-tub-608/Bitspower_G14_Female_Female_Pass-Through_Fitting_-_Fillport_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C04.html
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10362/ex-tub-610/Bitspower_G14_Low_Profile_Matte_Black_Stop_Plug_w_O-Ring_BP-MBWP-C09.html

But then said ....wait a minute...... the penetration will be under the top cover ..... so can just have this bigger stick up from top of rad into the little area where ya pull fans go ..... cutting only if necessary .... and since will be hidden, no need for bulkhead fitting
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/12336/ex-tub-773/Bitspower_G14_Male_to_Female_Extender_-_20mm_-_Matte_Black_BP-MBWP-C61.html?tl=c101s1354b145
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I also have a small G1/4 threaded funnel to be able to screw into one of the extensions to help make filling easier.

That was my plan also .... new plan is take a 48 oz square plastic jug and install a bulkhead fitting and valve. Take a length of flexible tubing w/ G1/4 end and screw into fill port. For the air bleed, will use a 12" riser of rigid tube with valve on top
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In addition I'm also hoping to be able to mount my lower 360 monsta rad with the inlet/outlet ports towards the front of the case so that the monsta's drain port would face the back and I can also put a hole right through the back of the case with a grommet for an extension to poke through to use as a drain - though I'm not sure that's going to be a possibility or not yet as to how the fan/rad mounting holes in the bottom of the case are located or not.

I was thinking this .... come off the drain port w/ a rotating 90 and a quick disconnect (or valve with plug if ya dont trust QD)........for everyday use rotate the 90 pointing up. When ya wanna drain, take off side panel, rotate the 90 so it sticks out of case and a lil downwards .... attach the other side of QD w/ cupla feet of flex tube
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If need be I can always just mount the rad the other way, with the inlet/outlet ports to the rear, and in that case I'll probably just use one of the rear facing ports the same way. The only thing about doing it that way is is would only drain the upper half of that lower rad without some serious tipping of the case, but that shouldn't be a huge deal I don't suspect. Maybe even get away with putting a fitting in one of the downward facing ports instead so that I might be able to drain it right out of the bottom of the case with the bottom air filter removed so I can drain the loop completely that way, but I dunno. I won't be able to solidify what exactly I'll be doing until I get my hands on the case.

yeah same here.... if it arrives Friday, will have the weekend to play ... will be pissed if it takes till Monday
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/20/13 at 11:10am
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Check ya mail smile.gif

I used his Rad tool on the archive site .... basically.....if ya use info from the new site and calculate, and you get about 10C .... you'll get the 5C using the old tool. Martin explained the difference was due to a change in testing parameters. Basically the new method eliminates the radiation from sides, tubing and the rest of the loop.
Fill / Bleed Ports - Jesse, since you have been in there .... how hard would it be to get the fill and air bleed ports in as I showed in the image on Post #700 ?

Radiator Top Port - Male x Female Extender - Plug Fitting

Seems it would be be easier with ports towards the front but that would prolly require a reservoir mounted off back of 5.25 cages

I personally like to make sure that my pump is always getting fluid from the res, But the way you have it planned that should work. You might have to tilt the case a bit to force water flow when filling. Will take longer than expected but pretty doable.

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Cool, 45 degrees is my target then, thanks!
I was linking if I did need to move to two pumps, then I would move away from the tube res and separate d5, and go with that Alphacool bay res that accepts two d5s at the back with the cool fillport on the front that pulls out
Many thanks! Pm'd you

You've got mail, let me know if you need any help with that.


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Originally Posted by Hereisphilly View Post

Same! I've got 1/2" advanced in white, I didnt know you had to flush it?

Always flush your water cooling gear with distilled water. Wash with tap water, then fill blocks and rads with distilled water, shake, drain. Rinse and repeat with distilled water. Clean loop is a happy loop.
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I personally like to make sure that my pump is always getting fluid from the res, But the way you have it planned that should work. You might have to tilt the case a bit to force water flow when filling. Will take longer than expected but pretty doable.
You've got mail, let me know if you need any help with that.
Always flush your water cooling gear with distilled water. Wash with tap water, then fill blocks and rads with distilled water, shake, drain. Rinse and repeat with distilled water. Clean loop is a happy loop.

Yeah its big help! As i said in my mail, i think i'm going to get away with it, as long as i run my pup on a high speed setting. Will just have to wait and see!

I knew i had to do the rads, but you are saying do the blocks and tubing aswell?
So basically run it through with tap water (but don't keep it in there long?), then fill with distilled and shake about, then drain.
Then repeat
Would you recommend doing the tubing in one long bit or wait till its cut to lengths to suit the stuff in the case?
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I personally like to make sure that my pump is always getting fluid from the res, But the way you have it planned that should work. You might have to tilt the case a bit to force water flow when filling. Will take longer than expected but pretty doable. .

Bettah ? smile.gif



Since we talking about filling loops ..... I always wondered about this..... Ya fill a funnel, turn on pump let it drain, fill a funnel .... rinse and repeat. Why have I never seen a youtube video where...

1. Install a fill port on the system



2. Install another one, (though Id like something with a bigger flange here) on a plastic wide mouth jar neat the bottom with a valve and barb and short piece of flex tubing. Something like this

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-15709/Jars-Jugs-and-Bottles/48-oz-Clear-Grip-Jars

3. Connect to fill port and let drain by gravity, letting air out somewhere else till suction floods.

4. Turn on pump (on and off as necessary) . With a liter+ sized jar above (just under 1.5 liters) , this should make the process a lot easier.

In fact i wonder if putting the jug cap on a squeezing the jar (maybe even tap jar cap with air connection and small 6" hand pump ?) would be enough to fill the loop.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/20/13 at 11:51am
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Bettah ? smile.gif



Since we talking about filling loops ..... I always wondered about this..... Ya fill a funnel, turn on pump let it drain, fill a funnel .... rinse and repeat. Why have I never seen a youtube video where...

1. Install a fill port on the system



2. Install another one, (though Id like something with a bigger flange here) on a plastic wide mouth jar neat the bottom with a valve and barb and short piece of flex tubing. Something like this

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/S-15709/Jars-Jugs-and-Bottles/48-oz-Clear-Grip-Jars

3. Connect to fill port and let drain by gravity, letting air out somewhere else till suction floods.

4. Turn on pump (on and off as necessary) . With a liter+ sized jar above (just under 1.5 liters) , this should make the process a lot easier.

In fact i wonder if putting the jug cap on a squeezing the jar (maybe even tap jar cap with air connection and small 6" hand pump ?) would be enough to fill the loop.

I do something similar, but the only issue with that approach is making it water tight. last thing you want is bunch water on your components. But both the ideas that you posted look great and will work like a charm. The way you have it, when you pour water it will fill up the res, and some of the lower rad. My loop is running on about half a gallon of distilled water.
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