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Woot up and running with no leaks. A few more hours of testing before I seal her up. Can't decide on a fan controller.
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Which one......A 480mm Alphacool Monsta up top in pull or a 480mm XT45 in push/pull ? I should be able to fit a Monsta at the top with my ram, but it will be tight. I can if I have to mount the Monsta in push/pull at the bottom, but i kinda prefer the top if I can. Since there are no 480mm UT60's around it's between the Monsta and the XT45. To keep the build simple, I just want one rad to cool my 3930 and keep the fans low and quiet.
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post #913 of 18687
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Ok with the case here, measured everything out ..... figured someone else might find it useful. Basically shows where things line up in relation to MoBo and Case with:

45mm Rads in top and bottom
60mm Rads in top and bottom
80mm Rads in top and bottom

Available Heights in 5.25" Bay areas
Available Heights in 3.50" Bay areas

If ya leave the reservoir bracket w/ cover plate in, no way I could make bend with 24 pin.... MoBo manufacturers have rotated all the SATA plugs, why leave the Big USB and 24 pin sticking straight outta the board ? Can see this on budget boards where case fit is an issue but not on an enthusiast board.

Anyway here's the img file.... kinda hard to read on the forum....it's an 11 x 17 image .... I can send to anyone who wants as AutoCAD *.dwg, PDF, fill size image file. Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)


BTW, just cleaning up and moved the case .... the lil wifi antenna fell to the table and I thought "I sure am glad this MoBo came w/ that WiFi module since this machine is so portable, I'll certainly be taking it w/ me everywhere I go.

As a water cooling box..... if ya doing twin GPus, as big as it is, it seems to be a bit tight ... just a half inch here or there woulda made things better. Seems if ya using 760's the reservoir mount works ..... also looks like a 60mm works ...... but with just 71mm of space (and that's based upon air cooled GFX) I sure wish I coulda got in a 75 glass res instead of acrylic..

Suggestions welcome.

Anyone have a source for GFX card dimensions after ya take off the big air coolers and install (EK) WBs ?
Nice bit of work. thumb.gif
post #914 of 18687
Ok question for everyone do i hook power up to the molex connector on the pwm hub? The sticker says go to website for mobo compatibility but i dont see anything on the site,its a Asus Hero if that matters
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post #915 of 18687
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Nice bit of work. thumb.gif

Attached the PDF to the original post

E-mailed ya the PDF and CAD files.

Based upon the drawing, I'm thinking I can fit a EK or other 60 mm reservoir near, not necessarily on, the bracket up and against the back of the 5.25" bays...... It will be tight with GTX 770's (71mm) but the Photon (75mm) or Aqualis (800mm) is definitely out. 760's are fine with anything but ya can't get a Full Cover WB for those. It does seem odd that they didn't think that for an extra inch of depth, they could fit 780's in there with
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Originally Posted by dsmwookie View Post

Woot up and running with no leaks. A few more hours of testing before I seal her up. Can't decide on a fan controller.

Looked at the Six Eyes ? I like it cause buttons "press and stay in" when door is closed / "press and stay out" when fiddling.

Got an e-mail from Bucky.... Frozen has in stock
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21571/bus-366/Reeven_RFC-01_Six_Eyes_525_Bay_Fan_Controller_Temperature_Display_-_Black.html

Review here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQcjxB9GMWY
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Originally Posted by OutlawII View Post

Ok question for everyone do i hook power up to the molex connector on the pwm hub? The sticker says go to website for mobo compatibility but i dont see anything on the site,its a Asus Hero if that matters

I think they better fix that ..... unless they wanna start replacing peeps MoBo's

1. Most MoBo fan headers have 1 maybe 2 amp limit.....the fans are 0.14 amp .... that would be 7 max and that's if ya don't include an allowance for inrush current. If someone put in their two 480s in push - pull, those 16 fans would blow the header.

2. As you said, it's not on the web site.

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Originally Posted by mixman View Post

Which one......A 480mm Alphacool Monsta up top in pull or a 480mm XT45 in push/pull ? I should be able to fit a Monsta at the top with my ram, but it will be tight. I can if I have to mount the Monsta in push/pull at the bottom, but i kinda prefer the top if I can. Since there are no 480mm UT60's around it's between the Monsta and the XT45. To keep the build simple, I just want one rad to cool my 3930 and keep the fans low and quiet.

Looks tight .... I don't think the RAM will be the worry for most.... I see the same issue as Jesse pointed out. For me, the CPU wire(s) coming down making that 180 bend look to be the limiting factor as well as the heat sink.

The attached pic has the caliper set to the Monsta's depth .... I figure lengthwise, ya have about 500mm between the plastic thingies that snap in the case top and the front plate at top of 5.25" bays .... this keeps the rear fan from being a consideration. My RAM sits 50mm off the MoBo (and 105mm below the rad mounting plate), and the MoBo heat sink sits MoBo heat sink sits 34mm above the MoBo and 75 below the the Rad mounting plate. Doing some math, fan / rad mount holes are 8 mm from edge and the top of my RAM lines up with that centerline.....so the edge of the Rad should be 42mm (50 mm RAM height - 8mm to fan edge) off MoBo surface. For my heat sink at least (34mm off MoBo), that gives ya 8mm to spare between rad and heat sink with a Monsta .... a 140mm would hit it if deeper than 75mm.

If case was > 4 mm wider here, it would fit 140mm wide Rads smile.gif
If case was > 6 mm taller 80mm, 120 wide Rad in P/P (86+25) would miss the RAM (at least on M6F)
If case was > 11 mm taller 80mm, 140 wide Rad in would miss the HS (at least on M6F)
If case was > 10 mm taller 60mm, 140 wide Rad in would miss the HS in P/P (at least on M6F)

But getting back to your situation .... I don't think the RAM or MoBo heat sinks will be as much of an issue as the CPU's EPS cable if it's located in the normal upper left location.

BTW, why doesn't anyone make 90 degree socket adapters ?

....................................
..................O................

The "O" is a hinge.... to build it ya rotate the hinge 180 degrees so it's easy to assemble. Then just rotate it back to 90 or whatever angle ya want to use .... could have clock stops .... Of course when ya rotate, the wires get slightly shorter so ya have different size rods to slide under the individually sleeved cable to keep taught and pretty.... eliminates wild turns and let's case modders show off their sleeving
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 12:29pm
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post #916 of 18687
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Originally Posted by OutlawII View Post

Ok question for everyone do i hook power up to the molex connector on the pwm hub? The sticker says go to website for mobo compatibility but i dont see anything on the site,its a Asus Hero if that matters

Yup plug in a molex to the phanteks fan controller, and take the pwm connector and plug that into any fan header on the mobo. Don't worry if it's not on the list.
post #917 of 18687
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Originally Posted by mixman View Post

Which one......A 480mm Alphacool Monsta up top in pull or a 480mm XT45 in push/pull ? I should be able to fit a Monsta at the top with my ram, but it will be tight. I can if I have to mount the Monsta in push/pull at the bottom, but i kinda prefer the top if I can. Since there are no 480mm UT60's around it's between the Monsta and the XT45. To keep the build simple, I just want one rad to cool my 3930 and keep the fans low and quiet.

FYI: Most places should be getting new Alphacool stock within the next week or two. For example, Aquatuning's site says they'll have 480 UT60s ready to ship Nov 8.
post #918 of 18687
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Originally Posted by Dahl View Post

Just finishing up my build now. Noticed a couple things.

The fan controller. I hooked all my fans into this, plugged in the molex power, and then plugged the controller into my board. All the fans work fine, but I can't seem to control them from my bios or mobo software. As a result, they are all running at full speed. Makes this case extremely loud. Anyone else have this issue?

Are you using the included Phanteks fans or other 3-pin (non-PWM) fans? (if so what fans are they?)
Do you have the PWM cable connected to the CPU_FAN port on the mobo?

- edit: ooops, sorry for the double post. Meant to add to my post above. Oh well.
post #919 of 18687
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Originally Posted by jassilamba View Post

Yup plug in a molex to the phanteks fan controller, and take the pwm connector and plug that into any fan header on the mobo. Don't worry if it's not on the list.

I used CPU_OPT so as to keep everything going with CPU profile

BTW, Jesse , you I remember you mentioning what might fit reservoir wise on the bracket .... in the drawing in Post # 906, I figured we'd have 71 mm w/ GTX 770s between the card edge and back of 5.25" bays (56mm w/ 780s and 124 w/ 760's). The 760s only have partial WBs so that eliminates them for a lot of people.... the 780s don't allow enough room so the 770s would appear to be the "Goldilocks" solution if ya wanted to mount 60mm res there......still would require ya to mod the mounting plate and wouldn't be an easy install. Back of case is as ya said, less elegant and a bit cluttered looking I think. Toying with the idea of horizontal mount.

However my main beef is that getting dimensions is hard .... actual dimensions of GFX cards w/ WB's mounted I haven't been able to find. And "real" dimensions of reservoirs are incomplete as they don't include the mounting bracket.

I think i will start a thread on this....maybe peeps will volunteer to provide what they haven and we'll have a source of information we all can draw on.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 11:38am
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Yup plug in a molex to the phanteks fan controller, and take the pwm connector and plug that into any fan header on the mobo. Don't worry if it's not on the list.
Thanks dude!
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