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Are you using the included Phanteks fans or other 3-pin (non-PWM) fans? (if so what fans are they?)
Do you have the PWM cable connected to the CPU_FAN port on the mobo?

I am using the Phanteks fans, and 3 corsair sp120s which are 3-pins. I have the PWM connected to my chasis 1 port on the mobo. That port should still be controllable, but should I switch to CPU_OPT? CPU_FAN is already used by my CPU cooler.
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Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

Looked at the Six Eyes ? I like it cause buttons "press and stay in" when door is closed / "press and stay out" when fiddling.

Got an e-mail from Bucky.... Frozen has in stock
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/21571/bus-366/Reeven_RFC-01_Six_Eyes_525_Bay_Fan_Controller_Temperature_Display_-_Black.html

Review here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQcjxB9GMWY

Any idea how many watts per channel? This looks perfect but I couldn't find any specs for the output. At this point its pretty much between the Six Eyes and the Sentry Mix 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Sentry-Mesh-Controller-Watts-Channels/dp/B005C31G30)
post #923 of 18653
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Any idea how many watts per channel? This looks perfect but I couldn't find any specs for the output. At this point its pretty much between the Six Eyes and the Sentry Mix 2 (http://www.amazon.com/Sentry-Mesh-Controller-Watts-Channels/dp/B005C31G30)

Withe the Phanteks PCBs, I never thought about the wattage outputs ... of course I am assuming we can buy more.

I plan on monitoring / controlling:

1. Monitor Water Temp - Control Top Rad Fans
2. Monitor Water Temp - Control Bottom Rad Fans
3. Monitor Water Temp - Control Front Rad Fans (Assuming add one)
4. Monitor Inside Case Temps - Control Case Fans
5. Monitor Ambient Air - Control House HVAC (kidding)
6. Monitor I dunno .... maybe HD temps .... maybe wife's blood pressure when another FrozenCPU bill arrives.

But looking here:

http://www.overclockerstech.com/reeven-sixeyes-fan-controller-review/2/
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Specifications
Fan Controller Six Channel fan controller
RFC-01 Six Temperature Monitors
Passive Safety Built-in Safe Alarm Feature
Retractable Dial

Dimensions: 148 x 42 x 100 mm / 6.3 x1.65 x 3.93 in
Temperature: Six Channel Temperature Monitor
Temperature Range 0~100oC / 32~199oF
Fan Channels: 1 AMP per channel = just over 12

If ya wanna power all the fans from the controller, I think ya gotta go Lamptron .... hopefully Phanteks will unzip the lips soon and tell us when we can buy spare parts.



BTW, if any of you ever wrestlednwith "what fits" issues and wondering if ya res will fit as long as ya GFX is card is so wide or so long ..... please contribute any known information from WC cards ya do have here:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1437498/data-resource-for-wcers-gfx-card-dimensions

6 views no data so far frown.gif
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 12:32pm
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I wouldn't mind buying a second PWM pcb board...
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@jack, i could send you a pm with both gtx 670 ftw sig2 and gtx 560ti twin frozr, but that would be in cm and mm tongue.gif


Regarding the res bracket in the middle, assuming my gfx cards dont go beyond my mb (sabertooth z77) how much vertical space would i have left after installing a 480 monsta, a 480 xt45 and three sets of 25mm thick fans? Toying with the idea of a thin 360 rad in the middle after seeing linus(techtips) installing a rad right there in a 900d
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Which one......A 480mm Alphacool Monsta up top in pull or a 480mm XT45 in push/pull ? I should be able to fit a Monsta at the top with my ram, but it will be tight. I can if I have to mount the Monsta in push/pull at the bottom, but i kinda prefer the top if I can. Since there are no 480mm UT60's around it's between the Monsta and the XT45. To keep the build simple, I just want one rad to cool my 3930 and keep the fans low and quiet.

Looks tight .... I don't think the RAM will be the worry for most.... I see the same issue as Jesse pointed out. For me, the CPU wire(s) coming down making that 180 bend look to be the limiting factor as well as the heat sink.

The attached pic has the caliper set to the Monsta's depth .... I figure lengthwise, ya have about 500mm between the plastic thingies that snap in the case top and the front plate at top of 5.25" bays .... this keeps the rear fan from being a consideration. My RAM sits 50mm off the MoBo (and 105mm below the rad mounting plate), and the MoBo heat sink sits MoBo heat sink sits 34mm above the MoBo and 75 below the the Rad mounting plate. Doing some math, fan / rad mount holes are 8 mm from edge and the top of my RAM lines up with that centerline.....so the edge of the Rad should be 42mm (50 mm RAM height - 8mm to fan edge) off MoBo surface. For my heat sink at least (34mm off MoBo), that gives ya 8mm to spare between rad and heat sink with a Monsta .... a 140mm would hit it if deeper than 75mm.

If case was > 4 mm wider here, it would fit 140mm wide Rads smile.gif
If case was > 6 mm taller 80mm, 120 wide Rad in P/P (86+25) would miss the RAM (at least on M6F)
If case was > 11 mm taller 80mm, 140 wide Rad in would miss the HS (at least on M6F)
If case was > 10 mm taller 60mm, 140 wide Rad in would miss the HS in P/P (at least on M6F)

But getting back to your situation .... I don't think the RAM or MoBo heat sinks will be as much of an issue as the CPU's EPS cable if it's located in the normal upper left location.

BTW, why doesn't anyone make 90 degree socket adapters ?

....................................
..................O................

The "O" is a hinge.... to build it ya rotate the hinge 180 degrees so it's easy to assemble. Then just rotate it back to 90 or whatever angle ya want to use .... could have clock stops .... Of course when ya rotate, the wires get slightly shorter so ya have different size rods to slide under the individually sleeved cable to keep taught and pretty.... eliminates wild turns and let's case modders show off their sleeving


I think I am just going to try a 480mm XT45 in push/pull. According to your chart a while back it seems that an XT45 in push/pull would be better than a Monsta in just push or pull. Still trying to decide on the res and pump I will use. I will most likely just buy a Lamptron for fan control. I'd like to be able to control the rad fans via PWM, but it seems like the best rad fans are not PWM and it seems that the one PWM controller in the case will not be able to run a slew of fans.
Edited by mixman - 10/27/13 at 4:57pm
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@mixman, these ok?

Not a beauty of a cable, but it is lower profile wink.gif
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I am using the Phanteks fans, and 3 corsair sp120s which are 3-pins. I have the PWM connected to my chasis 1 port on the mobo. That port should still be controllable, but should I switch to CPU_OPT? CPU_FAN is already used by my CPU cooler.

A lot of mobos don't actually have PWM control over fans except through the CPU port(s) CPU_FAN & CPU_OPT, even though the others may also be 4pin ports. A lot of boards the chassis fan ports in particular are not PWM. You should be able to see in the manual or in the bios which fan ports are PWM controlled or not. That, or you can just try the other port(s) to see if there's a difference.

Also, make sure you only have one 3 pin fan plugged into the first fan port on the phanteks hub. You can put a splitter on the others, but not the first one.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/27/13 at 5:48pm
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A lot of mobos don't actually have PWM control over fans except through the CPU port(s) CPU_FAN & CPU_OPT, even though the others may also be 4pin ports.

This. Is your CPU cooler a pwm fan? If so plug it into the CPU FAN and the phanteks board to CPU OPT.
post #930 of 18653
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@jack, i could send you a pm with both gtx 670 ftw sig2 and gtx 560ti twin frozr, but that would be in cm and mm tongue.gif


Regarding the res bracket in the middle, assuming my gfx cards dont go beyond my mb (sabertooth z77) how much vertical space would i have left after installing a 480 monsta, a 480 xt45 and three sets of 25mm thick fans? Toying with the idea of a thin 360 rad in the middle after seeing linus(techtips) installing a rad right there in a 900d

Just add them to the thread .... I'll likely provide dimensions in both inches and mm .... thx for getting it started.


It's late, let's hope my math still works at this hour smile.gif

Monsta (86mm) + XT45 (45mm) + 3 x 25 fans = 206 .... not Push / Pull on both ?

From top, total height from bottom of 25mm high top compartment is 275mm (bottom of 5.25 bays) + 141mm (bottom of upper 3.5" bays) + 122mm (top of relocated pump skid) + 38 (to floor) = 576

So 576 - 206 = 370 ... so no 360 rad .... which are typically about 400m long

BTW, redid the measurements to use bottom of consistently for space from the floor as if ya took something out. Will re upload the file in a few.

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A lot of mobos don't actually have PWM control over fans except through the CPU port(s) CPU_FAN & CPU_OPT, even though the others may also be 4pin ports. A lot of boards the chassis fan ports in particular are not PWM. You should be able to see in the manual or in the bios which fan ports are PWM controlled or not. That, or you can just try the other port(s) to see if there's a difference.

Also, make sure you only have one 3 pin fan plugged into the first fan port on the phanteks hub. You can put a splitter on the others, but not the first one.

Yes, was told by Asus that three Chassis fans have no PWM control even tho they 4-pin .... however was also told that the three OPT fans have no control to which I answered....well then why would anyone ever buy the optional temp probes ? No answer as yet. smile.gif

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This. Is your CPU cooler a pwm fan? If so plug it into the CPU FAN and the phanteks board to CPU OPT.

That's what I did (Post # 919)

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I think I am just going to try a 480mm XT45 in push/pull. According to your chart a while back it seems that an XT45 in push/pull would be better than a Monsta in just push or pull. Still trying to decide on the res and pump I will use. I will most likely just buy a Lamptron for fan control. I'd like to be able to control the rad fans via PWM, but it seems like the best rad fans are not PWM and it seems that the one PWM controller in the case will not be able to run a slew of fans.

Ditto on the XT45 for the same reasons.

For pump I went with the 35x2 ....I may wanna up the flow a bit and do parallel routing of the GPUs... was bored today having issues with loading Win 7-64 under UEFI....so in my idle time, toyed with some ideas



As for res, I'm stuck .... tough to do with dimension so close to the fit / no fit line. I'm currently leaning towards an EK150/250 .... wish I could fit one of the glass ones.... leery or Acrylic threads.

I finally decided to use the Phanteks fans via the hub..... got an e-mail back from Noiseblocker .... they will have 140mm eLoop fans coming out ... won't give any timeline though.....The Phantels XP PWM have higher SP at 1.53 .... review link posted few pages back.

Ordered 3 with LED's for push on top and 2 w/o LED's for bottom push .... gonna hold off on the pulls (till next credit card cycle) smile.gif

The only PITA is ya can only use 1 fan on channel 1 ..... so with 4 fans on bottom rad (Channel 2 and 3) and 6 fans on top rad (Channels 4 thru 6) .... so what do ya put on channel 1 ? That's why need additional controllers if not augmenting in some way. Think I'll call Phanteks and say I wanna ship case back and get the correct one as per the manual with TWO fan controlelr s:)

Channel 1 - Bottom Rad Push Fan
Channel 2 - Bottom Rad Push Fan
Channel 3 - (2) Bottom Rad Pull Fans
Channel 4 - (2) Top Rad 1st Push / Pull Set
Channel 5 - (2) Top Rad 1st Push / Pull Set
Channel 6 - (2) Top Rad 1st Push / Pull Set
Total 10 fans

Of course could just ise MoBos three headers / sensors for the 2nd
OPT_1 - Case Fans (3)
OPT_2 - Pump Heat Sink Fan
OPT_3 - I may wanna add a "Spot Cool" or something

Side Notes:

-Enthoo still in stock @ newegg
-140mm fans not in stock.... needed 2 (had 1)
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 7:20pm
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