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Saw thorough your numbers and it seems like you left the top compartment out, and I'm thinking of having one set of fans there which will bring it down to 181 and the total space left in the middle to 395, that would leave it 5 too short frown.gif anyways, ill order two more compressions and see if i can squeeze it in the by tilting it slightly. Have to test fit it first since my art background will most likely don't be ok with angles in a dead straight case

Repped for your help
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Saw thorough your numbers and it seems like you left the top compartment out, and I'm thinking of having one set of fans there which will bring it down to 181 and the total space left in the middle to 395, that would leave it 5 too short frown.gif anyways, ill order two more compressions and see if i can squeeze it in the by tilting it slightly. Have to test fit it first since my art background will most likely don't be ok with angles in a dead straight case

Repped for your help

The reason I thought you said 3 sets of fans was because assumed you were using 4 with one in top compartment

My measurements are strictly for case interior .... the 25 mm compartment is NOT included

NOTE:
Quote:
From top, total height from bottom of 25mm high top compartment is 275mm (bottom of 5.25 bays) + 141mm (bottom of upper 3.5" bays) + 122mm (top of relocated pump skid) + 38 (to floor) = 576

___________________________________________ Case Top
Top Compartment - 25mm high
************************************** Bottom of 25mm top compartment

All measurements from "Bottom of 25mm top compartment" (line of asterisks)

It is 576mm from the bottom of the floor to the bottom ofthe place you puttting those fans

I am assuming

__________________________________
|Set of 25mm Fans in Top Compartment |
|_________________________________|
|XT4 Radiator ...................................|
|_________________________________|
|Set of 25mm Fans in below XT45.........|
|_________________________________|
|............................^.......................|
|............................^.......................|
|............................^.......................|
|.................you have a vertical .........|
|.................height here of.................|
|.................370 mm.........................|
|............................v.......................|
|............................v.......................|
|_________________________________|
|Set of 25mm Fans above Monsta.........|
|_________________________________|
|Monsta Radiator ..............................|
|_________________________________|
|Set of 25mm Fans.............................|
|_________________________________|
|Case Bottom w/ Filters......................|
|_________________________________|

This also assume you took the fan mounting tray out.

576 - 75 (3 x 25) - 86 - 45 = 370
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 7:57pm
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post #933 of 19206
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I wouldn't mind buying a second PWM pcb board...

I would love to have a few of those in my 900D. I can't stand the ModMyToy's (performance PC's) custom made fan strip PCB's.
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My measurements are strictly for case interior .... the 25 mm compartment is NOT included

Well then our math is synced and we may see a 360 in the middle in a enthoo thumb.gif
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I would love to have a few of those in my 900D. I can't stand the ModMyToy's (performance PC's) custom made fan strip PCB's.

Isn't this pretty much the same?
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post #936 of 19206
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Originally Posted by Roxycon View Post

Isn't this pretty much the same?

That splits a PWM signal from the mobo to extra PWM (4 pin) fans.
The Phanteks hub enables PWM control from the mobo over 3 pin (non-PWM) fans.

It's pretty unique in that respect. I believe it's been tried before but with issues with some fans, so it remains to be seen if the Phanteks hub succeeds where others didn't.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/27/13 at 7:45pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

[...] The only PITA is ya can only use 1 fan on channel 1 ..... so with 4 fans on bottom rad (Channel 2 and 3) and 6 fans on top rad (Channels 4 thru 6) .... so what do ya put on channel 1 ? That's why need additional controllers if not augmenting in some way. Think I'll call Phanteks and say I wanna ship case back and get the correct one as per the manual with TWO fan controlelr s:)
[...]

The manual and in all of Phanteks' marketing have only ever said that one hub comes with the case. Also, every review only had one hub with the case. The manual lists that there are two different mounting locations, but only one hub.

The Enthoo Primo prototype on display at events such as Computex 2013 did have two fan hubs installed.

I suspect Phanteks didn't include multiples of the hubs because so many mobos only have the one CPU_FAN port that actually allows for PWM control, and even mobos that do have a CPU_OPT it's just a mirror of CPU_FAN, not something you can control separately.
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This was an oops but might as well use the wasted space ......

How do I find the post delete button smile.gif .... kidding

Does anyone use "gaskets" on their rads .... kinda wondered why some manufacturer's offer and some don't.


On the dimensions front ..... gotta redo the drawing again .....

Big duuuuhhhhhh ..... thatz the problem with long awaited delays on arrival of new items.... ya forget the stuff ya learned weeks / months back.....and I was still holding out hopes for a front 240 rad so kinda pushed it outta my mind. Anyone besides me forget that ya can more the HD cage forward ? .... now have 16.25" from back of case to back side of HD cage.





What ya see in there is one of my son's pieces of "hydration equipment" or what we called in my day a "water bottle"

The water bottle is 9" (228) by just under 3" (72mm) .... the measured distance is 79mm x 300mm (283 to radiator mount bracket) which means a Photon 270 appears possible and a 60mm EK 150 / 250 appears easy.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 9:37pm
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What fans are you leaving out ? Thought you were doing push / pull on top and bottom with the top rad push in top compartment ?

What fans are you leaving out ? Thought you were doing push / pull on top and bottom with the top rad push in top compartment ?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Unicr0nhunter View Post

The manual and in all of Phanteks' marketing have only ever said that one hub comes with the case. Also, every review only had one hub with the case. The manual lists that there are two different mounting locations, but only one hub.

The Enthoo Primo prototype on display at events such as Computex 2013 did have two fan hubs installed.

I suspect Phanteks didn't include multiples of the hubs because so many mobos only have the one CPU_FAN port that actually allows for PWM control, and even mobos that do have a CPU_OPT it's just a mirror of CPU_FAN, not something you can control separately.

I was speaking "tongue in cheek" with regard to the poorly written manual. I'm referring to the picture which says underneath:

Quote:
PWM hub will enable PWM function to 3-pin fans. Fan 1 can only be connected to one fan and cannot be split. Fan 2 - Fan 6 can
be split to multiple fans. Total of 11 fans can be connected to the PWM hub. All PWM functions will be controlled by fan 1.

And which points to another picture which shows 2 mounting locations

The other manual text which says
Quote:
PWM Hub can be mounted on different locations.

is the text that should have pointed to the two mounting locations.

Just poor manual structure.... one of the "faux pas" that manual writers are generally taught to avoid.

I also recall one of the promo videos saying it comes with two
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/27/13 at 8:11pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JackNaylorPE View Post

[...]I was speaking "tongue in cheek" with regard to the poorly written manual. I'm referring to the picture which says underneath:


Quote:
PWM hub will enable PWM function to 3-pin fans. Fan 1 can only be connected to one fan and cannot be split. Fan 2 - Fan 6 can
be split to multiple fans. Total of 11 fans can be connected to the PWM hub. All PWM functions will be controlled by fan 1.

And which points to another picture which shows 2 mounting locations

The other manual text which says
Quote:
PWM Hub can be mounted on different locations.

Just poor manual structure.... one of the "faux pas" that manual writers are generally taught to avoid.

I also recall one of the promo videos saying it comes with two

Have to disagree. The manual structure is excellent and intuitive imho. In each instance, the text addresses the image above it, exactly as it should, and it's the image of the fan hub that is pointing to the image of the mounting locations for it (which makes perfect sense), not the text that's underneath it.

I think it's one of the better put together manuals I've ever seen. Especially for being multi-language.

I have found a couple mistakes in it though. For example, on pg 27 under the '140 mm form factor radiators' chart, the triple asterisks info meant for a 140 or 280 bottom radiator says "*** 125mm width max" which is wrong. That's the max width of a 360 or 480 rad in the bottom that has to be able to fit behind that panel. There is no such thing as a 125mm or less wide 140mm series radiator. There's ~145 mm max width of space for a 140 or 280 rad in the bottom.

I pointed that mistake out to Phanteks almost 2 months ago, but looks like it never got corrected.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/27/13 at 8:53pm
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