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Have to disagree. The manual structure is excellent and intuitive imho. In each instance, the text addresses the image above it, exactly as it should, and it's the image of the fan hub that is pointing to the image of the mounting locations for it (which makes perfect sense), not the text that's underneath it.

I guess it's all what ya used to.... granted .... and I agree, it's better than most case manuals but if one of my employees wrote it, the next week he'd be practicing "do you want fries with that ?" As for the image, I'd agree without the red boxes and arrows..... the arrows trumps everything else drawing the focus away from the text below and to the text to the right. But like we both said.... it's better than most. And let's not forget .... I do remember the designer in the Ducth office did say it cane with two in one of his videos.....this was discussed on one of the forums (not sure if was OCN) pre release as to what it would come with and that fact was pointed out.

1. Another example is the image on page 11..... until I found the female ends buried under the wiring bundle inside the strap..... I thought we had to plug wires into the board. Image would be improved if it showed existing fans plugged into those wires for 1st two and missing for the next four.

2. Looking at it later, I didn't feel like disassembling to look but I didn't think the two SSD brackets would fit mounted vertically one of the other w/ hitting each other. Manual says "drop down" to lock .... given installed positions, shuda been left / right.

3. The pump mounting images on right side of 29 gave me a headache smile.gif ..... kept looking for holes to mount vertically

Again, I'm pickier than most because it's an area win which I practice..... I'm used to cruddy manuals on $100-$150 cases.... but given what we saw pre-release "expected quality" wise, I was hoping just a bit better.
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post #942 of 18657
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I think I am just going to try a 480mm XT45 in push/pull. According to your chart a while back it seems that an XT45 in push/pull would be better than a Monsta in just push or pull. Still trying to decide on the res and pump I will use. I will most likely just buy a Lamptron for fan control. I'd like to be able to control the rad fans via PWM, but it seems like the best rad fans are not PWM and it seems that the one PWM controller in the case will not be able to run a slew of fans.

Ditto on the XT45 for the same reasons.

For pump I went with the 35x2 ....I may wanna up the flow a bit and do parallel routing of the GPUs... was bored today having issues with loading Win 7-64 under UEFI....so in my idle time, toyed with some ideas



As for res, I'm stuck .... tough to do with dimension so close to the fit / no fit line. I'm currently leaning towards an EK150/250 .... wish I could fit one of the glass ones.... leery or Acrylic threads.

I finally decided to use the Phanteks fans via the hub..... got an e-mail back from Noiseblocker .... they will have 140mm eLoop fans coming out ... won't give any timeline though.....The Phantels XP PWM have higher SP at 1.53 .... review link posted few pages back.

Ordered 3 with LED's for push on top and 2 w/o LED's for bottom push .... gonna hold off on the pulls (till next credit card cycle) smile.gif

The only PITA is ya can only use 1 fan on channel 1 ..... so with 4 fans on bottom rad (Channel 2 and 3) and 6 fans on top rad (Channels 4 thru 6) .... so what do ya put on channel 1 ? That's why need additional controllers if not augmenting in some way. Think I'll call Phanteks and say I wanna ship case back and get the correct one as per the manual with TWO fan controlelr s:)

Channel 1 - Bottom Rad Push Fan
Channel 2 - Bottom Rad Push Fan
Channel 3 - (2) Bottom Rad Pull Fans
Channel 4 - (2) Top Rad 1st Push / Pull Set
Channel 5 - (2) Top Rad 1st Push / Pull Set
Channel 6 - (2) Top Rad 1st Push / Pull Set
Total 10 fans

Of course could just ise MoBos three headers / sensors for the 2nd
OPT_1 - Case Fans (3)
OPT_2 - Pump Heat Sink Fan
OPT_3 - I may wanna add a "Spot Cool" or something

Side Notes:

-Enthoo still in stock @ newegg
-140mm fans not in stock.... needed 2 (had 1)


Ugghhh...... Keep going back and forth on this but I think it is now between a 480mm XT45 up top push/pull (won't push it with anything larger up top) or just a 480mm Monsta in push/pull down bottom and just have 3 140mm fans blowing the hot air out the case Thatt way I know I have the max cooling power from one rad. I am going to try to order tomorrow so I can move my 3930K over to the Phanteks and start building my 4770K build with M6F into my Lian Li V2120.
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post #943 of 18657
In regards to fitting a res on the center bracket, are you guys keeping in mind that when you take the plastic "face plate" on the bracket (the decorative panel that's supposed to be left on if you're just using the bracket as a cable hider), there's more room gained for graphics cards? The bracket gets thinner (less wide) in the middle where the GPU would normally hit. It gains you about an extra inch of clearance for graphics cards when you take the plastic facade off. I have the Asus GTX 780 which is longer than most 780's, I think and I think I only needed about an extra 1/4 inch of clearance to fit the bracket on with the 780 installed. That's with the stock cooler on, which hangs a ways off the back of the card.

I'm thinking if the EK water block for the Asus DCUII doesn't add any extra length to the card, then that bracket MIGHT actually work. Probably not, but it certainly could make a lot of other peoples' equipment work if they didn't know that removing the plastic panel from the bracket actually gains you a good bit of extra GPU room. Reference style 780's are certainly possible, I think. Someone without the beast sized Asus 780 could probably confirm pretty quickly.
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In regards to fitting a res on the center bracket, are you guys keeping in mind that when you take the plastic "face plate" on the bracket (the decorative panel that's supposed to be left on if you're just using the bracket as a cable hider), there's more room gained for graphics cards? The bracket gets thinner (less wide) in the middle where the GPU would normally hit. It gains you about an extra inch of clearance for graphics cards when you take the plastic facade off. I have the Asus GTX 780 which is longer than most 780's, I think and I think I only needed about an extra 1/4 inch of clearance to fit the bracket on with the 780 installed. That's with the stock cooler on, which hangs a ways off the back of the card.

I'm thinking if the EK water block for the Asus DCUII doesn't add any extra length to the card, then that bracket MIGHT actually work. Probably not, but it certainly could make a lot of other peoples' equipment work if they didn't know that removing the plastic panel from the bracket actually gains you a good bit of extra GPU room. Reference style 780's are certainly possible, I think. Someone without the beast sized Asus 780 could probably confirm pretty quickly.

Reference 780 and Titan fit with the decorative cover removed and the bracket in place.
post #945 of 18657
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In regards to fitting a res on the center bracket, are you guys keeping in mind that when you take the plastic "face plate" on the bracket (the decorative panel that's supposed to be left on if you're just using the bracket as a cable hider), there's more room gained for graphics cards? The bracket gets thinner (less wide) in the middle where the GPU would normally hit. It gains you about an extra inch of clearance for graphics cards when you take the plastic facade off. I have the Asus GTX 780 which is longer than most 780's, I think and I think I only needed about an extra 1/4 inch of clearance to fit the bracket on with the 780 installed. That's with the stock cooler on, which hangs a ways off the back of the card.

I'm thinking if the EK water block for the Asus DCUII doesn't add any extra length to the card, then that bracket MIGHT actually work. Probably not, but it certainly could make a lot of other peoples' equipment work if they didn't know that removing the plastic panel from the bracket actually gains you a good bit of extra GPU room. Reference style 780's are certainly possible, I think. Someone without the beast sized Asus 780 could probably confirm pretty quickly.

Reference 780 and Titan fit with the decorative cover removed and the bracket in place.
post #946 of 18657
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[...]If ya leave the reservoir bracket w/ cover plate in, no way I could make bend with 24 pin.... MoBo manufacturers have rotated all the SATA plugs, why leave the Big USB and 24 pin sticking straight outta the board ? Can see this on budget boards where case fit is an issue but not on an enthusiast board. [...]

This is a worry of mine. There is only a tad more than 2" of space there which is not much room at all.

Has anyone had any trouble with fitting their 24-pin cable under the res bracket?
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[...] Im gonna repeat another one from a few pages back.... the only "ugly" wiring I have is SATA power..... had to use 4 PSU cables (2 HDS. SSD1, SSD2, Optical). Really shuda been a STA power blackplane here. Something like the Antec DF-85 .... Slide it in and its plugged in. [...]

Ugh, I would have hated to see this case have a bunch of hot-swappable HDD bays. I cannot stand those things. I have two on my Cosmo 2 that are the only HDD bays that are going unused, and will stay that way except in the instance I want to grab data off of / put data onto a HDD from somewhere else, and even then that won't really be possible as I didn't have any SATA ports to spare on my mobo for either of them. I'm using all 10 ports already. I'd have to add a SATA hub PCI card for more.

Maybe one HDD bay with a backplane would have been ok/tolerable, but I don't like that they are basically wanting me take up SATA ports on my mobo for it when it's the last SATA thing I would ever use. I MUCH MUCH prefer regular HDD bays. I make up my own SATA power cables so the connectors are perfectly spaced all neat and tidy. I wish it was as easy to do custom-length SATA data cables but at least they do come in a variety of lengths.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/28/13 at 3:58am
post #947 of 18657
Guys, sorry if someone already place that info here but I was traveling and have like hundreds of new posts to go through and so far I haven't found any reference to it. Those of us who pre-order had a promise of a gift along the case. What was it? Anyone got that gift? My case probably will take more 3 or 4 weeks to get here since is coming from Holland and I am in Brazil... sad-smiley-002.gif
post #948 of 18657
frozen still got the promo.. Link
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Yep, but FZCPU does not say what is the gift...Additional fans?
post #950 of 18657
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Ugghhh...... Keep going back and forth on this but I think it is now between a 480mm XT45 up top push/pull (won't push it with anything larger up top) or just a 480mm Monsta in push/pull down bottom and just have 3 140mm fans blowing the hot air out the case Thatt way I know I have the max cooling power from one rad. I am going to try to order tomorrow so I can move my 3930K over to the Phanteks and start building my 4770K build with M6F into my Lian Li V2120.

Have you considered a 420 XT45 on top ? Gives lightly more cooling.

Last night I gave up on the front rad, moved the HD cage over to gain res room. More comfy now with 5 case fans (2 blowing in in front, 1 on the rear and two mounted on case sid epanel on right blowing out....... better balance.....

10 rad fans blowing in (5 sets in P/P)
2 case fans blowing in (front)
3 case fans blowing out (side and rear)
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Originally Posted by ADragg View Post

In regards to fitting a res on the center bracket, are you guys keeping in mind that when you take the plastic "face plate" on the bracket (the decorative panel that's supposed to be left on if you're just using the bracket as a cable hider), there's more room gained for graphics cards? The bracket gets thinner (less wide) in the middle where the GPU would normally hit. It gains you about an extra inch of clearance for graphics cards when you take the plastic facade off. I have the Asus GTX 780 which is longer than most 780's, I think and I think I only needed about an extra 1/4 inch of clearance to fit the bracket on with the 780 installed. That's with the stock cooler on, which hangs a ways off the back of the card.

I'm thinking if the EK water block for the Asus DCUII doesn't add any extra length to the card, then that bracket MIGHT actually work. Probably not, but it certainly could make a lot of other peoples' equipment work if they didn't know that removing the plastic panel from the bracket actually gains you a good bit of extra GPU room. Reference style 780's are certainly possible, I think. Someone without the beast sized Asus 780 could probably confirm pretty quickly.

The bracket thing is true in your case with a single 780 ..... but it fits only under certain conditions:

1. Single card
2. Two cards in SLI w/ NO SPACE between.

If ya have an enthusiast 2 or 3 PCIE-3 slot MoBo with the one slot extra slot spacing between the two cards for air circulation, it does hit the bracket on the edge of the slanted part...... at least that's what I have seen in a few reviews and the best measurement I can do w/o a card in place. See the drawing in post #906

The EK Block on the 780 actually shortens the card. Hopefully when ya get it you will chime in here:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1437498/data-resource-for-wcers-gfx-card-dimensions

You can see what fits for Asus 760, 770 and 780 in post #906 in this thread.... I will update PDF with some added dimensions in a little while and re-upload.


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Guys, sorry if someone already place that info here but I was traveling and have like hundreds of new posts to go through and so far I haven't found any reference to it. Those of us who pre-order had a promise of a gift along the case. What was it? Anyone got that gift? My case probably will take more 3 or 4 weeks to get here since is coming from Holland and I am in Brazil... sad-smiley-002.gif

It's on the same page ..... scroll down and look at bottom where ya add accessories:
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Free Gift Bundle!!
(put shirt size in special comments on shipping page)
FCPU Stress Ball
FCPU Lanyard
FCPU Gummi Bears
FCPU Keychain
FCPU T-Shirt

Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/28/13 at 10:03am
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