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OK some more pics .... for those of you still wondering about fit......

420 rad in place at top .... easy fill port option



Both Rads in place (note .... bottom rad cab get closer to rear of case, top stopped by fan sliders another inch available if ya wanna extend them)



35x2 mounted under top HD bay



Hey Phanteks.... can we buy accessories yet ? I need anudder pump skid. Will CAD up a mounting plate and try and have made locally..... if anyone has source suggestions for a plate with 4 holes (118 x 72 center line to center line, I'm all ears. Will send CAD file if anyone else needs.



Looking at 280 from rear of case..... would make a nice easy drain line if not on seams frown.gif



EDIT: Another missed it by that much moment .... 90 bend from boittom 280 rad misses being puurrrfect by 4mm




If anyone else needs a pic, dimensions shout
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/30/13 at 6:01pm
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Omg, please say theres enough room to have the inlets/ outlets in front D: have used so much extra on watercooling gear now, dont wanna make changes now..

Say, is it enough room between the front of the case and the hdd cage in back position to run 5/8" od tubing between?
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Good shots! Definitely no push/pull on that 420mm UT60 up top. Why that as opposed to a 480mm? Probably that the 480mm's are near impossible to find. I was close to getting a MCP35X, but at the last minute chickened out afraid it would be too noisy.
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Good shots! Definitely no push/pull on that 420mm UT60 up top. Why that as opposed to a 480mm? Probably that the 480mm's are near impossible to find. I was close to getting a MCP35X, but at the last minute chickened out afraid it would be too noisy.

I wanted to do a UT60 on top but chickened out and went for the XT45-420 up top..... the UT60 is a dually which is going on the bottom. As it was a subject of much discussion, I put it up there and took some measurements. In the end it was the wise choice,,,,, I have got 38mm between bottom of Rad and top of MPCIE combo card thingie..... add the extra 15 for the UT and the 25 for the fan as yet not installed and I'd be bending that bugger.

I went with the 420 cuz:

1. It has slightly more cooling capacity than 480 (doesn't include adjustment for smaller dead area)

120 x 480 = 57,600
140 x 420 = 58,800

2. I wanted the ability to put fan controller in the top two 5.25 bays

3. I wanted the option of using the drain as a fill port at front w/ easy access

3. It's $25 cheaper

5. It's always in stock smile.gif


I went with the 25x2 because of noise concerns .... can run it at 30% speed. It is H E A V Y tho.
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Omg, please say theres enough room to have the inlets/ outlets in front D: have used so much extra on watercooling gear now, dont wanna make changes now..

Say, is it enough room between the front of the case and the hdd cage in back position to run 5/8" od tubing between?


If you reverse from how it's shown in the picture, you lose 12-15 mm .... the back edge at the rear of the case is about 12-15 mm away from the grille cause of the way the fan slots are. In this position I had 75.. between the edge of the Rad and the HD cage .... but remember, my cages are not in the stock position..... I have them smack against the fans so if ya saving that space for a front Rad, you are down to about 25 - 30 mm. With the Rad in the position in the pic, I have about 90mm between the Rad edge and the cage.
Edited by JackNaylorPE - 10/30/13 at 11:17pm
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Lots of good info. thumb.gif

Thanks!
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So, silly question -- if you are mounting a reservoir on the reservoir bracket, and obviously you have a radiator + fans directly above it, what's the best way to design an accessible fill port? There's no "top" of the EP chassis to drill into to install a fill port even if you run an angled adapter + hose around the radiator above it, so how do you access the fill port on the top of the reservoir?
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So, silly question -- if you are mounting a reservoir on the reservoir bracket, and obviously you have a radiator + fans directly above it, what's the best way to design an accessible fill port? There's no "top" of the EP chassis to drill into to install a fill port even if you run an angled adapter + hose around the radiator above it, so how do you access the fill port on the top of the reservoir?

This is pretty much what I have been planning on doing. I hope to address this one of several ways, or more likely a combination thereof.

A) There looks to be just barely enough room to snake a hose from a 90 degree fitting screwed into the fill port on top of a tube res mounted to the res bracket up the backside of a 120 series rad and cut a hole for a G1/4 fill port in the top of the case just to the rear of the res bracket. You would have to remove the top panel (and that means removing the front panel first) to be able to access it.

or

B) Run a length of hose from a rotary fitting screwed into the fill port on top of a tube res mounted to the res bracket with a stop plug fitting in the end of it out of view either into the 5.25" bays or to the backside of the case- & secure it somewhere there out of the way - to where I can pull the hose out the side panel upward and remove the stop plug to use it as a fill port when I want to. I'll just have to hold it up while filling this way.

or

C) Drill holes in the back of the top of the case for 15-20mm extensions screwed into the top-facing inlet/outlet ports of my 480 XT45 to pass thru to use them as fill ports (the bottom-facing inlet/outlet ports will be in use for the loop, but the top-facing ports would otherwise normally be plugged). Like option A, this will also require removing the top panel (and that means removing the front panel first) to be able to access them. When filling using either of these ports, I would only need to be able to have enough room to open the fill port on the res to allow air to escape so that the water can fill up into the res from below. When the water level reaches the top of the res, I can cap off the res and continue filling thru the radiator-mounted fill-port to almost completely fill the loop that way.

I can either accomplish opening/closing the fill port in the top of the res by doing options A or B, or in my case if I were to just leave the fill port plug in the top of the res it looks like there will only be a little less than 20mm of space between the top of the res and the bottom of the push fan on my top rad. I should be able to open/close the fill port with an offset right-angle screwdriver, and if it proves to be too tight for that I have plans to make my own tool that will fit.
Edited by Unicr0nhunter - 10/31/13 at 8:11am
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So, silly question -- if you are mounting a reservoir on the reservoir bracket, and obviously you have a radiator + fans directly above it, what's the best way to design an accessible fill port? There's no "top" of the EP chassis to drill into to install a fill port even if you run an angled adapter + hose around the radiator above it, so how do you access the fill port on the top of the reservoir?

Not sure if I understand what you are asking



Looking at the image below, there are 6 ports at one end and 1 at the other. The fans do not cover the ports extending only to the edge of the Rad, not the little chamber where the ports are.

If say you are using a Monsta 480 in the bottom .... with ports at back of case, you could run a vertical line up from the top port up thru the roof of the case .... at the point where ye get in line horizontally with ya CPU, insert a Tee ..... or ...... above the Tee install a small Res to give ya some breathing room
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B) Run a hose from a rotary fitting screwed into the fill port on top of a tube res mounted to the res bracket with a stop plug fitting in the end of it out of view either into the 5.25" bays or to the backside of the case- & secure it somewhere there out of the way - to where I can pull the hose out the side panel upward and remove the stop plug to use it as a fill port when I want to. I'll just have to hold it up while filling this way.

This seems like the most reasonable, although not particularly "elegant", solution to me. If there were a true "ceiling" to the chassis I'd just run a hose up there using some angled adapters and install a port with a plug in the top, but since the top is essentially just an open reservoir bracket, there's really not much in the way of surface area to install a port. If I didn't already have a GTX 360 radiator for the top, I'd probably make a res with an extra port(s) a priority.

It may be easier to just dismount the radiator and slide it aside to allow temporary access to the reservoir top fill port when fill time rolls around? I only really plan on refilling it every 6 months or so. Or is that just asking for headaches?

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Not sure if I understand what you are asking



Looking at the image below, there are 6 ports at one end and 1 at the other. The fans do not cover the ports extending only to the edge of the Rad, not the little chamber where the ports are.

If say you are using a Monsta 480 in the bottom .... with ports at back of case, you could run a vertical line up from the top port up thru the roof of the case .... at the point where ye get in line horizontally with ya CPU, insert a Tee ..... or ...... above the Tee install a small Res to give ya some breathing room

I'm using a Monsta 360 in the bottom, Black Ice GTX 360 in the top, & XSPC Photon res (mouted on the bracket). The Monsta has lots of ports, I'm using the backside bottom one as a drain port with a rotary valve. The BlackIce 360, though, only has 2 ports on it (iirc? not at home to check right now), so there's no way to run a fill port into the top res, and the "open" ceiling design of the case doesn't make for an obvious place to mount a top fill-port routed from the reservoir or bottom rad.

I just placed my big wc hardware order last night, so I'm still in the planning phase (albeit, several months into it), and this is my first wc project, so maybe I'm missing something totally obvious. wink.gif
Edited by chrisnyc75 - 10/31/13 at 8:23am
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[...] I plan on making a little rolling cabinet the same length+width of the case about 6" tall that I will mount the case to so it can be moved around when needed. Just like the one I made for my Cosmo 2 it will be painted black to match the case and house one long drawer that pulls out from the front to store extra parts, software CDs, etc, everything that I like to always keep with the computer, and will roll around on a set of extra large 3"(75mm) desk chair casters.
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Do you have any pictures of your current cabinet? It sounds like a great idea, and it doubles up as providing a flat surface to raise the case up off my man-cave carpet!

Sorry so long to post pictures of this. It's usually tucked up between the desk and a wall to where I couldn't get pictures of it very easily.

This is the little rolling cabinet I made for my Cosmo II with my (still empty) Enthoo Primo sitting on it ...

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It's not really anything all that special but I like it. Most of it is made out of 2x6s. lol

The Enthoo Primo is so much smaller than my Cosmo II it just doesn't even look right to me sitting on that. But that's OK, I've already started making another smaller sized one just for it ...

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