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Agreed, i don't know how people can disagree with this.

Everything is just a one point "talent"
this, although there was a bit more complexity due to the 'synergies'. but still, mostly every thing was 'put 20 points into this, this and this, and a point into this and this as prereqs. put enough strength points to wear so and so gear, dex based on the build, all the rest into vit and none into energy'
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Any word on a release date yet Gentlemen?
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Its funny how people complained about how we couldn't customize our characters with stat points and what not for D3.


Now that they are granting us this opportunity, people are still going to be unhappy because they have to decide on an opportunity cost.


I don't understand the issue, you will still get stat points for your paragon levels.....you will have to distribute them as you see fit


Did you want additional stat points on top of what you have already earned?
Actually, your entire comment is offensive in that you clearly haven't leveled multiple toons to paragon 100. (i havent yet either, but i have a paragon 100, a paragon 80, paragon 69, and paragon 21).

My point is that if they all share the same account wide paragon, then clearly stat points spent in dexterity for my monk are completely useless on my barb... my para100 monk right now has a lot of dex and vit just from 100 paragon levels as well as perfect 300% MF and GF. Now depending on how blizzard decides to have the paragon points work, it doesnt sound like i'll be able to have all that strength for my barb, all that dex for my monk, all that intel for my wiz, all that vit for each of my toons, AND perfect MF/GF for the same amount of experience gained from the original paragon. I hope im wrong, but your comment for complaining and wanting more than ive already earned.... no thats not it at all.

I have over 1000 hrs on monk, over 300 hrs on wiz, 100-200 hrs on barb... over 200 hrs playing HC and 3 (albeit dead due to lag) lvl 60 HC characters... so yeah, since i have my cake I would like to eat it
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Any word on a release date yet Gentlemen?

No sir. Do remember, we're dealing with Blizzard here.. tongue.gif
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Actually, your entire comment is offensive in that you clearly haven't leveled multiple toons to paragon 100. (i havent yet either, but i have a paragon 100, a paragon 80, paragon 69, and paragon 21).

My point is that if they all share the same account wide paragon, then clearly stat points spent in dexterity for my monk are completely useless on my barb... my para100 monk right now has a lot of dex and vit just from 100 paragon levels as well as perfect 300% MF and GF. Now depending on how blizzard decides to have the paragon points work, it doesnt sound like i'll be able to have all that strength for my barb, all that dex for my monk, all that intel for my wiz, all that vit for each of my toons, AND perfect MF/GF for the same amount of experience gained from the original paragon. I hope im wrong, but your comment for complaining and wanting more than ive already earned.... no thats not it at all.

I have over 1000 hrs on monk, over 300 hrs on wiz, 100-200 hrs on barb... over 200 hrs playing HC and 3 (albeit dead due to lag) lvl 60 HC characters... so yeah, since i have my cake I would like to eat it


Assuming i have 0 paragon 100s is pretty stupid lol

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- All existing paragon experience for each account will be consolidated and paragon points will be given


This clearly states that paragon levels will be consolidated and you will be awarded points to your account to spend on characters.

They won't be taking any points away and allow you to re-spec.

So you can rest assured, your cake is in no way threatened.
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This clearly states that paragon levels will be consolidated and you will be awarded points to your account to spend on characters.

They won't be taking any points away and allow you to re-spec.

So you can rest assured, your cake is in no way threatened.
I assumed you have no paragon 100s because of how quickly you were calling me a complainer about not wanting to lose what i earned from all the hours played. My understanding was t the experience will be consolidated and paragon points (or account-wide paragon level) will be the sum of the accounts total paragon experience before the paragon 2.0 hits. This means that each paragon lvl after 100 will take more than 200 million XP to achieve. Meaning if you have two paragon 100 characters now, the actual paragon level after paragon 2.0 will be MUCH lower... def not 200 paragon. Are you saying that they are going to grandfather in old paraong levels and award points for them, without abiding by the new paragon 2.0 system? If so, and this is confirmed, then i apologize for my comments. If not, then i'm still going to complain a bit tongue.gif

And i love cake. I want the *** **** option to eat all of it.
If my thinking is correct, it would be like dropping half of it in the dirt.
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I assumed you have no paragon 100s because of how quickly you were calling me a complainer about not wanting to lose what i earned from all the hours played. My understanding was t the experience will be consolidated and paragon points (or account-wide paragon level) will be the sum of the accounts total paragon experience before the paragon 2.0 hits. This means that each paragon lvl after 100 will take more than 200 million XP to achieve. Meaning if you have two paragon 100 characters now, the actual paragon level after paragon 2.0 will be MUCH lower... def not 200 paragon. Are you saying that they are going to grandfather in old paraong levels and award points for them, without abiding by the new paragon 2.0 system? If so, and this is confirmed, then i apologize for my comments. If not, then i'm still going to complain a bit tongue.gif

And i love cake. I want the *** **** option to eat all of it.
If my thinking is correct, it would be like dropping half of it in the dirt.

Probably won't be 2x the cake as you would hope, more likely it will be 1.x the cake.

Like this picture I made

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Probably won't be 2x the cake as you would hope, more likely it will be 1.x the cake.

Like this picture I made

Very nice thumb.gif

Considering paragon level 78 or something around there is only half way to paragon 100 in terms of experience points... if you have 2 paragon 100s... i think the 1.x cake will be a sliver over half of what it should be in terms of compensation. Unless as i said before, I am wrong, and blizzard is going to reward initially on a 1 for 1 paragon lvl swap for points, then just make the account paragon level equal to whatever it would be progression wise.
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What are you talking about?

In D2, there was barely any build diversity. You would see the same builds over and over, as any decent farmer would use the optimized builds.

You created a character and followed a cookie cutter build until it got nerfed. Plain and simple.



I can't see build diversity ever happening because there will always be an optimal cookie cutter build for whatever purpose.



How do you think a actual talent tree would change builds as opposed to what we have now? (other than being visually different)

they could improve upon it so that choices were more meaningful and balanced. realistically, they need to alter abilities as well too.
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I assumed you have no paragon 100s because of how quickly you were calling me a complainer about not wanting to lose what i earned from all the hours played. My understanding was t the experience will be consolidated and paragon points (or account-wide paragon level) will be the sum of the accounts total paragon experience before the paragon 2.0 hits. This means that each paragon lvl after 100 will take more than 200 million XP to achieve. Meaning if you have two paragon 100 characters now, the actual paragon level after paragon 2.0 will be MUCH lower... def not 200 paragon. Are you saying that they are going to grandfather in old paraong levels and award points for them, without abiding by the new paragon 2.0 system? If so, and this is confirmed, then i apologize for my comments. If not, then i'm still going to complain a bit tongue.gif
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The paragon levels are account wide, so you aren't losing anything. If you have two paragon 100's, you'll end up with paragon 130 or whatever it works out to, for all chars.

You will only be screwed over if the make they stats from the paragon levels account wide- it would make the most sense if each char got to spend those paragon points individually, so you're not stuck with str on your monk, etc.
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