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Poll Results: Is the Noctua NH-D14 still the best cpu air cooler?

 
  • 60% (72)
    No
  • 40% (48)
    Yes
120 Total Votes  
post #111 of 192
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

doh.gif Never mind. It's obviously too much for you to understand.tongue.gif

i honestly think its wrong because i add the ram socket plus the actual height of the ram stick when its seated, but you add the total ram height and the ram socket

you're supposed to measure the ram stick when its seated because it loses some height When ITS SEATED
look at this video also @ 1:47 the noctua sits 2 inches high

Edited by DrClaw - 2/21/14 at 12:41pm
post #112 of 192
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Originally Posted by DrClaw View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by doyll View Post

doh.gif Never mind. It's obviously too much for you to understand.tongue.gif

i honestly think its wrong because i add the ram socket plus the actual height of the ram stick when its seated, but you add the total ram height and the ram socket

you're supposed to measure the ram stick when its seated because it loses some height When ITS SEATED
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look at this video also @ 1:47 the noctua sits 2 inches high
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Do it your way. It's wrong but go ahead. You are as hard headed as the shell on your avatar. thumb.gif
post #113 of 192
Im not hard headed thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif

i said
i think its wrong, if its wrong then how are you supposed to measure it, my ram is 2 inches tall, convert to mm its 50.8 mm headscratch.gif

also your ram is different from mine, i have dominator platinum pretty sure its taller than yours, is this why? you said measure top of ram to mobo that works
but i did it differently, could be off a couple mm or so since i take two measurements and its through inches, metric is better

maybe you are trolling so here wave2.gif
Edited by DrClaw - 2/21/14 at 1:22pm
post #114 of 192
On great hard head. biggrin.gif
You measure from top of RAM to top of socket. 2 inches
You measure from top of socket to motherboard .25 inch
The combined distaance of RAM to socket and socket to motherboard is 2.25 inches.
This means it is 2.25 inches from top of RAM to motherboard

2.25 inches is 57.5 mm

Yet you persist saying it isn't wink.gif
post #115 of 192
Quote:
Originally Posted by doyll View Post

On great hard head. biggrin.gif
You measure from top of RAM to top of socket. 2 inches
You measure from top of socket to motherboard .25 inch
The combined distaance of RAM to socket and socket to motherboard is 2.25 inches.
This means it is 2.25 inches from top of RAM to motherboard

2.25 inches is 57.5 mm

Yet you persist saying it isn't wink.gif
WHAT no way lol
no more trolling lachen.gif
the socket is 3mm bro you agreed on that earlier
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Originally Posted by doyll View Post

Dominator Plagtinum is 54mm tall so you will need a cooler with bottom fin 49mm above CPU. (CPU is 8mm above motherboard & RAM socket raises RAM 3mm)

If you use 140mm fan over your RAM your case needs to have 189mm CPU clearance... about 20mm more than most cases. But 120mm fan only need 169mm CPU c learance so will fit in most cases (no pun).

thats less than 2.25 inches but i will settle on 2.25 that would be enough height to fit over dominator platinum ram thumb.gif
Edited by DrClaw - 2/21/14 at 6:22pm
post #116 of 192
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Originally Posted by DrClaw View Post

no more trolling lachen.gif
the socket is 3mm bro you agreed on that earlier

thats less than 2.25 inches but i will settle on 2.25 that would be enough height to fit over dominator platinum ram thumb.gif
The 3mm is from bottom of RAM inside of socket to face of motherboard. Remember, you measured 7mm from top of socket to motherboard. RAM slided into socket about 4mm. thumb.gif
You aren't as hard headed as I though oh great turtle biggrin.gif
post #117 of 192
Sorry if this isn't the best place to post, but I'm not sure I really needed to make a new thread just asking for specific advice.

I ordered a DH-14 on Friday, after reading lots of reviews (and threads like this), where everyone said DH-14 was the clear-cut winner. But it turned out lots of those reviews were quite old, and it doesn't always come top in every benchmark now.

I'm running an i7-3770k on a Sabertooth Z77.

So, out of the
-Noctua DH-14
-be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3
-Phanteks PH-TC14PE
-Zalman CNPS12X
-Thermalright Silver Arrow (or IB-E, or SB-E, or Archon SB-E x2??)
-Anything else?

Which should I get? From what I understand, these are the best air coolers on the market at the moment, but I can't find any reviews that compare all of them. Particularly the Dark Rock Pro 3, as I think that came out fairly recently.

On another note, I'm thinking of getting a Fractal Design R4, but I know very little when it comes to cases. Is this a good choice? The Corsair 330r also seems to be a good choice. I'm not too bothered about looks, I just want a fair amount of space, good cable management and decent airflow (all for under £90 redface.gif )

Many thanks.
post #118 of 192
You forgot the Noctua NH-U14S in your list, which is also awesome.

I think the Thermalright and Phanteks and also the Dark Rock Pro 3 might be a better choice than the NH-D14. The old Noctua fans used on the NH-D14 can get pretty noisy when approaching full speed. The new one used on the NH-U14S seems a lot better in that regard, and the Phanteks fans are similarly great (though I don't know if the newest Phanteks fans are the same fans that are used on the PH-TC14PE). I think all those coolers themselves are also better compared to the NH-D14 (I mean when testing with the exact same fans).

If you think of buying the Dark Rock Pro 3, look up how it gets installed. You will have to screw it in from the back side of the motherboard. Can you imagine how you would do that alone? You might need to remove the motherboard, while for the other coolers you can simply have the case with motherboard installed lie on its side. Alternatively for the Dark Rock Pro 3, you could probably have the case hang over the edge of the table so that you can get to the motherboard tray's cutout on the back and that might work great.

Regarding a case, there's also the Fractal Design Arc Midi R2. Stripped down to the metal parts, it's the same case as the Define R4, but it comes without dampening and no front door, instead with one more fan. It has meshes everywhere for more air flow. The Define R4 should be more quiet when nothing stressful is going on and the dampening might be great for HDDs, but the Arc Midi R2 could be able to beat it while gaming all day if you are able to reduce fan speeds more because it has no door etc.

Be careful of CPU cooler height and the case. The 330R has 160mm clearance and something monstrous like the Archon SB-E X2 won't fit as it's 170mm. The Define R4 has no problem.
Edited by deepor - 3/2/14 at 12:39pm
post #119 of 192
Thanks for your reply, wish I knew all this when I first went to build my PC!
For some reason I thought the U14S was a tier below the others, but from reading reviews just now, I guess I was wrong.
Not going to go for the Pro 3. I had enough difficulty installing the i30, and that was mostly adhesive!
The Silver Arrows (IB-E and SB-E) both look a little big, so I've scrapped them.

Left in the running is:
Zalman CNPS12X
Noctua NH-U14S
Phanteks PH-TC14PE
Thermalright Archon SB-E x2

I'm surprised that the Archon SB-E x2 and the U14S get similar temperatures to the latter two, considering the first two only have one radiator, and the second two have two. (I don't really know anything about cooling...)

Think I'm gonna go for the NH-U14S, due to its (smaller) size. Thanks again.
post #120 of 192
As an explanation, it might be a combination of Noctua learning a little more about how to best build a cooler and using a better fan. They might have tweaked the base and the soldering and things like that. Meanwhile, the NH-U14S and the NH-D14 both have six heat-pipes. They are just arranged differently, but blowing air on them and the aluminium fins might end up producing a very similar result. Then there's the fan on the NH-U14S. The one you get with the cooler runs at up to 1500 RPM, which is pretty fast (buying that fan separately, you only get a 1200 RPM version). It might compete with the two fans on the NH-D14 by itself.

The Thermalright you looked at have eight heat-pipes with similar thickness to the six on the Noctuas, but that's seems to be a bit too much and somewhat useless, so the Archon can't pull away from NH-U14S.
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