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post #21 of 86
Frankly you don't get a Titan for value, you just get one because you want one.
That said my 780 is slightly overclocked EVGA ACX SC, and it beats the Titan in single 1080p benches. That isn't to say the Titan is worse but just that the performance of either the 780 or Titan is a bit silly to compare against each other in games.

A 4k monitor works by using a 2x1 screen setup. Basically the driver will setup 2 displays within the single screen in order to do 60Hz video. A single 780 should be able to do this easily and still get playable frames.

When you decide to apply custom Sparse Grid Supersampling over Multisampling Anti Aliasing, then the 6 GB of vram will come in handy, otherwise normal AA in game levels the 3 GB of the 780 should be Ok - from what I have seen so far.

Now if you want surround 4k monitor setups... dunno.
But for surround setups with 60+ fps my expectation that SLI Titan and SLI 780 is necessary.
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1. What FPS is the 4K monitor itself is capable of running (there is no 60 FPS right now for 4K that anyone can logistically can afford) and the more frames it drives, the more VRAM it will need to keep it in sync. Furthermore the FPS can be driven, it is just that drivers and even game settings are not optimized properly right now for 4K. Finally, 30 FPS does look crap to the eagle-eyed.

2. Some games are now hitting OVER 3 GB (you might not play them but some of us do).

3. The Titans CAN handle 6 GB (so do the 780's in theory). Also, nVidia is not stupid if they are giving 12 GB of VRAM on the Quadros K6000 (which is a 15 SMX GK110 GPU).

I am NOT saying Titan is the best value for money nor I am recommending it for the common sense people to get it. However, it DOES shine in the 4K 1600p sector and it will do well in the future while the 780 might not (thanks to nVidia NOT giving it 6 GB got obvious reasons) in those same resolutions going forward.

So unless you want to get Maxwell, then obviously Titan is not a good idea. Otherwise for us who wants to upgrade every other generation or something, Titan seems to keep its fill pretty damn well.

So stop being ignorant and go somewhere else. We get enough of these ridiculous claims already.

They don't put 12 GB of vram on those so they can run multiple moniters, thats for gpu compute, as mentioned by nearly everyone the diminishing returns of the titan over the 780 make it a silly choice when comparing 3 780s vs 2 titans.
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post #23 of 86
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now guys keep it nice here, I didnt ask the question for people to start bitting at each other. my main thing is after reading this article, sli titan and sli 780 on a 3 monitor *1200 NV Surround and Eyefinity 3-display testing, that there was only a 6-10% difference. and what would that be if I added a 3rd 780 which would still be cheaper then 2 titans. But, I am still bouncing back and forth, main reason is for bragging rights of having 2 titans. but truth is I cant say that the $700 more for a 10% increase is really worth the bragging rights to me. If you can show me another article that shows that 2 titans have more push the 10% increase or the benfits over 3 gigs for more then 2 games, then I might have to just go sli or tri sli 780.


http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/08/06/nvidia_geforce_gtx_780_sli_video_card_review/2#.Ug0S3G2hjcs
    
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post #24 of 86
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now guys keep it nice here, I didnt ask the question for people to start bitting at each other. my main thing is after reading this article, sli titan and sli 780 on a 3 monitor *1200 NV Surround and Eyefinity 3-display testing, that there was only a 6-10% difference. and what would that be if I added a 3rd 780 which would still be cheaper then 2 titans. But, I am still bouncing back and forth, main reason is for bragging rights of having 2 titans. but truth is I cant say that the $700 more for a 10% increase is really worth the bragging rights to me. If you can show me another article that shows that 2 titans have more push the 10% increase or the benfits over 3 gigs for more then 2 games, then I might have to just go sli or tri sli 780.


http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/08/06/nvidia_geforce_gtx_780_sli_video_card_review/2#.Ug0S3G2hjcs

That review is what pushed me to 3 780's. I totally understand where you are coming from..
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post #25 of 86
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here is a review that shows the new galaxy 780 HOF edition, and it shows that a single 780 can run a 2560*1600 with the same settings as a titan.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/08/14/galaxy_geforce_gtx_780_hof_edition_review/1#.Ug0WR22hjcs

though question is how good are galaxy GPUS vs say asus, evga, or gigabyte?
    
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post #26 of 86
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here is a review that shows the new galaxy 780 HOF edition, and it shows that a single 780 can run a 2560*1600 with the same settings as a titan.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2013/08/14/galaxy_geforce_gtx_780_hof_edition_review/1#.Ug0WR22hjcs

though question is how good are galaxy GPUS vs say asus, evga, or gigabyte?

They are all about the same.
They will vary with overclocking but the primary thing they all have are custom coolers which prevent the card from throttling.

In the case of the EVGA 780 ACX SC the factory overclock places the gpu above a Titan, so that is nice if you just want to run stock.
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post #27 of 86
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They are all about the same.
They will vary with overclocking but the primary thing they all have are custom coolers which prevent the card from throttling.

In the case of the EVGA 780 ACX SC the factory overclock places the gpu above a Titan, so that is nice if you just want to run stock.

I go EVGA for good US warranty. As for OC analysis. Do not forget that the official reviews test Titans @ stock 837 MHz. Even with a Voltage Restriction, most Titans can hit 1150 MHz. It has been guesstimated in the EVGA Classified Club that your 780 has to hit 1350 MHz to match a 1150 MHz Titans. Furthermore most Titan owners on OCN don't run our Titans at stock.

An EVGA Classified 780 needs 1.35V to hit 1350MHZ and it is not guaranteed 24/7 stability. Most Titans on 1.212V Maximum will run 1150MHz 24/7.

Just FYI before people assume those reviews for their worth.

Again I don't want to due out people over the 780. I would say it is the better buy but I am still not convinced with the trends of gaming that 3 GB on 1080p is going to suffice much sooner than expected. I have my reasons for the Titan and I too wanted to consider SLI 780 Classifieds but I went against it ultimately.
    
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post #28 of 86
Meh the Titan is still faster when overclocked yea, but until you start taking advantage of that massive frame buffer the gains are still relatively small compared to an OC 780. It would be hard to find differences in games I think, unless you were really really pushing that resolution and graphical settings.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1396877/titan-vs-gtx-780-both-overclocked-and-tested-1440p

Also the Titan uses a good bit more power than the 780 so requirements to run SLI are a little different, unless of course you already have a 1k Watt PSU.
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Meh the Titan is still faster when overclocked yea, but until you start taking advantage of that massive frame buffer the gains are still relatively small compared to an OC 780. It would be hard to find differences in games I think, unless you were really really pushing that resolution and graphical settings.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1396877/titan-vs-gtx-780-both-overclocked-and-tested-1440p

Also the Titan uses a good bit more power than the 780 so requirements to run SLI are a little different, unless of course you already have a 1k Watt PSU.

Reference should be the same: 250W per card.

Actually the non-reference 780's uses more power per card.

850W PSU is suffice for 2x SLI 780 or Titan.
    
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post #30 of 86
Until someone can come with some actual evidence of the resolution you intend to run requiring more vram than the 780 can offer, titan in single or SLI config is a non consideration for the most part. It's marginally faster and we've been through this a trillion times already. The value just isn't there unless you can specifically point out a situation where the 6GB vram isn't just a superfluous number.
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