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Hi, I bought a decent system a few years ago and am finally ready to start playing around with overclocking. I'm not really sure why it took so long, maybe it's because I'm throwing around the idea of building a new system and if I mess this one up I'll have no choice thumb.gif Onto the specs:



GA-EP45-UD3R Rev 1.1 Motherboard

Q6600 G0 stepping CPU (For some reason it runs stock at 1.325v, temps are 40*C idle and 70*C load (TJMax 105*C))

CL-P0497 Heatsink 49.2 CFM (I left the stock one on long enough for the fan blades to start falling off)

2x Corsair Dominator DDR2 1066 (TWIN2X4096-8500C5D / CM2X2048-8500C5D (I'm not sure why it goes by two different model #'s))

CUG-950B PSU (Overkill? Maybe, but it was only 100 bucks on newegg at the time)

220GT EVGA 01G-P3-1226 Graphics Card (I started with a 9800GT hence the larger PSU)



One thing I'd like to know more about is that right now my RAM/FSB ratio is 2:1, if I change my FSB from 266 to 333 do I need to mess around with the RAM so that it gets a proper ratio? I've read things both implying it was important or even assumed you were to do that, and other things implying it doesn't even matter anymore. If so, should I overclock the RAM to 667 (Wouldn't it be 666?) to get the 2:1 ratio again or underclock it to some other ratio? I think at the time I read that this particular RAM would overclock to 1333 pretty easily but I'll have to look again just to make sure. The motherboard was made for 1600/1333 FSB but at the time I read that getting a CPU with a FSB of 1066 wouldn't be an issue. Thanks a bunch.

Oh, and just to sound crazy after I mess with this and need to do more to satisfy my new found overclocking addiction I'm going to dunk the whole thing in mineral oil cheers.gif
Edited by Triac - 8/14/13 at 8:34pm
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If you search, you shall find:

http://www.overclock.net/newsearch?search=overclock+Q6600
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Does your board have any Auto OC options? Just to save you some hassle since it's your first OC.
   
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If you search, you shall find:

http://www.overclock.net/newsearch?search=overclock+Q6600

I've read quite a few threads here but haven't found my specific question about ram times and if it matters so much, also I thought maybe someone here could give me an idea of which direction to take it if I did need to change the ram smile.gif
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Does your board have any Auto OC options? Just to save you some hassle since it's your first OC.

It has an "optimized settings" option but that kind of defeats the entire purpose and takes all the fun out of it.
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Originally Posted by Triac View Post

I've read quite a few threads here but haven't found my specific question about ram times and if it matters so much, also I thought maybe someone here could give me an idea of which direction to take it if I did need to change the ram smile.gif
It has an "optimized settings" option but that kind of defeats the entire purpose and takes all the fun out of it.

The first one I clicked on in that search talked about ram timings, so I have no idea what you are talking about:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1417199/overclocking-old-q6600
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I've read quite a few threads here but haven't found my specific question about ram times and if it matters so much, also I thought maybe someone here could give me an idea of which direction to take it if I did need to change the ram smile.gif
It has an "optimized settings" option but that kind of defeats the entire purpose and takes all the fun out of it.

Some people tend to see overclocking as more of a hobby, whatever's best for you man biggrin.gif
   
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The first one I clicked on in that search talked about ram timings, so I have no idea what you are talking about:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1417199/overclocking-old-q6600

Yeah I read that one, I know *how* to change the ram and somewhat have an idea of which order to change things when it comes to that. Like raising the latency and then messing with the mhz until I get what I want, then lowering the timing until it becomes unstable and upping the V until I get the speeds decent without heating too much under load. Either that, or vice versa on the first two steps... but I think that's right. I suppose if I'm going to go 400mhz on the fsb then I should just lower the ram by 133mhz to match 1:1, but that's kind of what I'm asking advice on here as far as RAM goes. I was also hoping there would be someone here familiar with this specific module that could perhaps inform me of any little details that may not be on any of the threads I've read. I've done a lot of reading and still have more to do but sometimes it's better to ask more specific questions than read other threads that are similar. As far as the CPU goes I'm 98% sure I've got how to do that. I don't really want to go in 5-10 mhz increments as suggested *At First* because I know this CPU has been known to get to 3.2Mhz on stock volts. I'm probably going to start it at 3 and go from there.

I kind of just wanted to see if there was any advice that could be given about these specific components, as well as any old-timer general "sage" advice when it comes to overclocking. It's the little tips and tricks that only people that have been doing this kind of things forever know that are really exciting things to learn about. I apologize for rambling, It's 8am and I'm just now going to sleep.

*Edit* Also my CPU-Z is showing a Volt range between 1.12v and 1.28v when idle, which from what I understand is completely normal. But every other piece of software I have shows 1.325v including my BIOS. Under load CPU-Z shows it goes to 1.24**** and only changes by thousanths or less of a volt. From what I've read CPU-Z is the one to trust but I'm curious why everything else, BIOS included, pulls inaccurate voltage readings.
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Some people tend to see overclocking as more of a hobby, whatever's best for you man biggrin.gif

Of course! I'm doing this for the thrill, even if I could get maximum OC with my one click BIOS settings I would really just be disappointed that I didn't get to do it myself. Don't get me wrong, I would use it, but it would definitely feel like I missed out on something exciting. Of course it isn't just being able to see how far I can push the numbers with everything working well, I want to see the difference and be able to use it every day. It would be amazing if I could get this thing over 4Ghz but I just don't see that happening with this cooling setup, but if it does somehow manage to go that high and stay under 90*C I'll take it. That is to say I don't have crazy expectations, I'm thinking 3-3.2Ghz and maybe, maybe if I'm lucky 3.4Ghz.
Edited by Triac - 8/15/13 at 5:18am
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I had a Q6600 SLACR @ 2.8ghz once upon a time, they're hot ones those chips
   
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